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Disc Testing Methods and Software Discuss, Opti Drive Control -- by Erik Deppe at Blank Media forum; Maybe Erik can set another 30 trial on the next update for the purpose of further debugging. I mean its us, the Freaks, and him the Master, that are going to debug it, refine it, and add new things that our Drive manufacturers (and Software designers i.e. NERO !) don't

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DLW (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 01-07-2009
Maybe Erik can set another 30 trial on the next update for the purpose of further debugging. I mean its us, the Freaks, and him the Master, that are going to debug it, refine it, and add new things that our Drive manufacturers (and Software designers i.e. NERO!) don't want us to have. But it will take time ... of course.

At this point I don't have the drives to get in the ball game here except the LG H55; He did put support for the Panasonic chipset in CD-DVD and DiscSpeed for DQ scanning with only some performance issues that I've been able to easily workaround. But I doubt very much he has enabled it in ODC for the Panasonic chipset in LG drives. I've read the whole thread; very interesting, and a lot of potential for ODC if we work with him.
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sorensen721 (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Posted: 08-07-2009
Just did a test with Liteon 20A1 ... program failed to test 2nd layer .. just like DiscSpeed 4.7.716 and DiscSpeed5 ....... sigh

Also, at the end of jitter test, my drive made repeated clicking noises so I closed the program rather than letting it continue doing God knows what.

Still needs major major work to fix
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2601 (MyCE Resident)
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Posted: 12-07-2009
The create test disc function does not work on PIONEER DVR-118/218CHV and causes Windows hang.
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2601 (MyCE Resident)
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Posted: 28-07-2009
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Originally Posted by ErikDeppe View Post
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There could be a small performance loss when measuring the buffer level with some drives but this should not be so dramatic. The upcoming version has an option to set the buffer level refresh rate.
The ODC 1.30 still has buffer underrun problem with PIONEER X17.
PIC2: result of setting at default
PIC4: result of setting at fast
PIC6: result of setting at slow
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2601 (MyCE Resident)
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Posted: 28-07-2009
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The create test disc function does not work on PIONEER DVR-118/218CHV and causes Windows hang.
The ODC 1.30 fixed the problem.
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Posted: 31-07-2009
I really like this new version, finally has some added value over CDSpeed, nothing revolutional though, and probably still buggy
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zjohnr (New Member)
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Posted: 01-08-2009
I don't know if this has been mentioned before. For the heck of it I tried installing the current version (v1.30) even though the "30 day trial" counter had tripped for me on a previous version.

It worked.

After installing v1.30 my trial counter went back to 0 of 30 days. So if you were trying out Opti Control but gave up when your 30 days ran out, it looks like you can try it out again.

FWIW,

-irrational john
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ErikDeppe (Opti Drive Control Author)
Posts: 372
Posted: 01-08-2009
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Originally Posted by sorensen721 View Post
Just did a test with Liteon 20A1 ... program failed to test 2nd layer .. just like DiscSpeed 4.7.716 and DiscSpeed5 ....... sigh

Also, at the end of jitter test, my drive made repeated clicking noises so I closed the program rather than letting it continue doing God knows what.
Measuring PI/PIF and jitter on the second layer is now possible with version 1.30 with the older LiteOn series (ie. 160xx6S, 165xx6S, 20A1, 20A4, ...).
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The ODC 1.30 still has buffer underrun problem with PIONEER X17.
I don't know why this happens with this drive. I tested it with the most recent Pioneer I have, the 115 and it works fine with all settings.
I wil order a 117 to see if I can reproduce this.
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After installing v1.30 my trial counter went back to 0 of 30 days.
Yes, the counter has been reset in 1.30
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zjohnr (New Member)
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Posted: 02-08-2009
One "feature" that I looked for but didn't see was a display of a DVD's label. I see the disc type, media ID, length and so forth, but nothing that helps me identify which particular disc was actually being tested.

Being able to include the label as part of the save file name would be an extra nice bonus as it might help to organize saved test result images.

Did I just overlook something?

-irrational john
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vroom (Moderator)
Posts: 3,874
Posted: 02-08-2009
Has anyone tried the FE/TE function with and ihap322?
Mine simply stays at the same point at 8x (1159mb).
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zsl1010 (MyCE Rookie)
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Posted: 03-08-2009
FE/TE test for

a) Benq DW1655 BCHB / MCC 004, speed 4 X to 16 X

b) LiteOn DH20A4P 9P59 / MCC 004, speed 2.4 X to 18 X
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zsl1010 (MyCE Rookie)
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Posted: 03-08-2009
FE/TE Results using OptiDriveControl 1.30 comparing with those by QScan of Benq QSuite 2.1.

a) Benq DW1655 BCDB / YUDEN000 T02, speed 8 X

b) Benq DW1655 BCDB / MCC 004, speed 16 X
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Posted: 04-08-2009
Erik,

What is the paid licensing scheme for this program ? Is this just for single version, minor number ? or lifetime license ? Can't find it here nor in the web site.

Suggestion :

Make a promo say for example to 1st 100 registered users will have lifetime license for future version upgrade, of course once you ironed out major bugs and glitches.
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Posted: 07-08-2009
Any reason I can't get the jitter to run with an iHAS324, where it works with an iHAS422?
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talos_2002 (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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Posted: 13-08-2009
I downloaded the zip file, extracted and run the exe.
The registration window appeared, I pressed "continue" and the program closed.

I downloaded the setup file and the same thing happened.
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gigiostars (New on Forum)
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Posted: 28-08-2009
Disk Quality bug on the Pioneer burner, after 50% of disk surface, program hang!



Tested whit Pioneer DVR 117D and this DVR 216L this is a Bug?!? Y tested whit and whitout the jitter scanning options, same problem..
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SLOVEHEART (MyCE Senior Member)
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Posted: 29-08-2009
I just have a couple of things to mention - I am using the latest version 130, and with bluray disc quality testing I am using a LiteOn iHES208 drive, and first off the jitter doesn't show up: I see there is a check box for it on the BD test screen, but after the scan completes - no jitter line, and I have it set for the same speed as the scan speed. See screenshot. Also the avg. LDC and BIS seem to be off by a decimal point (too small). And in the manual it mentions that a good burn should have a LDC under 13 and a BIS under 15, well, in all the discs I have scanned the LDC is far above 13 - more like 130 and the value for BIS is under 15 - so I think there is a typo there, I am just guessing at that - since I know next to nothing about these quantities and their meaning, save what is mentioned in the manual. Otherwise I think the tool is on it's way, it seems to give higher readings for DVD quality scan readings than nero discspeed...
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Posted: 29-08-2009
No jitter reporting from the iHAP322(22A9P MTK1868B chipset)
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SLOVEHEART (MyCE Senior Member)
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Posted: 29-08-2009
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No jitter reporting from the iHAP322(22A9P MTK1868B chipset)
the Lite On iHES208 gives jitter on DVD quality scans not BD scans. Manual says there are three liteon drives which are supported for BD quality scanning. DH-401S, IHES106, iHES208. I guess the jitter box on the BD scan screen is for looks at this point
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EliC (New on Forum)
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Posted: 03-09-2009
I really want to test the reliability of C2 errors of different drives, as well as drives ability to read audio discs with damage, and I want to do this with pressed discs, not CD-Rs as this is not the same as reading pressed audio discs.

I think this could be done by taking a good quality audio disc, ripping it, confirming the rip is accurate and saving the disc image as a wav.

Then damage the disc. Re-rip in multiple drives. Look at frames where C2 errors are recorded and bit compare results with the accurately ripped wav.

Ideally one would have multiple copies as the ideal damage would be a number of tracks with various amounts of damage, some easy to recover, some nearly impossible to recover.
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yu031217 (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 12-09-2009
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No jitter reporting from the iHAP322(22A9P MTK1868B chipset)
Opti Drive Control 1.40:
No jitter reporting from the iHAP322-9/iHAS324(internal)
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FoxRacR17 (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 13-09-2009
how come the disc quality doesnt give a score ie. 97%?
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ErikDeppe (Opti Drive Control Author)
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Posted: 13-09-2009
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Originally Posted by jubjubbird View Post
Any reason I can't get the jitter to run with an iHAS324, where it works with an iHAS422?
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Originally Posted by yu031217 View Post
Opti Drive Control 1.40:
No jitter reporting from the iHAP322-9/iHAS324(internal)
Jitter now works with all iHA* drives in version 1.41

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What is the paid licensing scheme for this program ? Is this just for single version, minor number ? or lifetime license ? Can't find it here nor in the web site.
Upgrades are free for all minor versions and for at least one year.

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how come the disc quality doesnt give a score ie. 97%?
This will be added in a later version.
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gg72 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-09-2009
Jitter scan does not go with the Asus drive DRW-24B1ST, although it is a Liteon iHAS124 drive. Or do I make what wrong?
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zjohnr (New Member)
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Posted: 17-09-2009
Out of curiosity, what does it mean when the Quality Check graph shows RED? I mean I assume it means something bad is happening, but it's not obvious to me how or what sort of bad that may be.

Is there some "cut off" for a PIF sample beyond which it is graphed in red? Any details to aid in interpretation of the graph would be much appreciated.

-irrational john
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