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Old Posted: 21-05-2009
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Opti Drive Control 1.00 doesn't seem to support DVD Disc Quality scanning on my main scanning drive, a LiteOn SHM-165P6S (MS0R): Drive does not support this function
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Old Posted: 21-05-2009
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Here's what a bad disc looks like using Opti. Notice how the program identifies the selected speed of the burn - I like.
As far as I can tell, the writing drive and speed information is not detected for discs burned with CDSpeed.
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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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The autosave function is very nice, but unfortunately it saves a screenshot just before the final refresh of the screen, which means that sometimes information is missing.

Here is an example:

1. autosaved screenshot
Transfer rate (BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCGB) 22-maj-2009 01-15 autosave.png

2. manually saved screenshot
Transfer rate (BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCGB) 22-maj-2009 01-15.png

In this case the burst rate is missing.

In other cases the C1/C2 graphs are slightly incorrect in the autosaved screenshot (I didn't save that example).
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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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Here's what a bad disc looks like using Opti. Notice how the program identifies the selected speed of the burn - I like.
I also did not see any info about how the disc was created when I ran a Disk Quality scan with Opt Drive so I'm not sure why you did. OTOH, Nero Disc Speed 5 did have a line indicating that the disc was "recorded with PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A". Perhaps that is just yet another aspect of this tool that is still being tweaked.

Oh, well. No biggy. I can wait.

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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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Small suggestion for next version of Opti Drive Control: If the burst rate and access times are measured before the transfer rate, the time it takes to perform the transfer rate will be shown in the bottom right corner instead of e.g. the burst rate test time, which is useless information. It's much more relevant to have the transfer test time shown after the test is done.
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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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I also did not see any info about how the disc was created when I ran a Disk Quality scan with Opt Drive so I'm not sure why you did. OTOH, Nero Disc Speed 5 did have a line indicating that the disc was "recorded with PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A".
The example posted was a disc burned using the Create test disc function of ODC (Opti Drive Control is kinda long so it's down to ODC for me ) and not from Nero Disc/CD-DVD Speed.
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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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I also did not see any info about how the disc was created when I ran a Disk Quality scan with Opt Drive so I'm not sure why you did. OTOH, Nero Disc Speed 5 did have a line indicating that the disc was "recorded with PLEXTOR DVDR PX-760A".
Figured out how to post the screen captures so figured I do that. These were both run with the same DVD in the same drive. Only difference was which app was used.
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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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wow, this is one hell of a buggy software.

on my system it doesn't even work.

press anything in the program, and Not respoding.

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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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CD Bler scanning is equivalent to the Advanced Disc Quality scanning in CDSpeed. It works with some BenQ and Plextor drives.

My Plextor PX-712A is supported but not my PX-760A (with unprotected firmware): Drive does not support this function

1. Scanning with BenQ DW1655 in external enclosure:
CD Bler (BENQ DVD LS DW1655 BCGB) 21-maj-2009 21-33.png

2. Scanning with Plextor PX-712A in external enclosure:
CD Bler (PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A 1.09) 21-maj-2009 22-20.png
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Old Posted: 22-05-2009
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Disc quality scanning for DVDs is almost working on my Plextor PX-712A in an external enclosure, but the error at the end prevents automatic saving of the result.

1. Screenshot of the error:
Disc quality (PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A 1.09) 21-maj-2009 22-51 Error.png

2. Screenshot performed manually after dismissing the error dialog:
Disc quality (PLEXTOR DVDR PX-712A 1.09) 21-maj-2009 22-52.png

The PIE and PIF are scanned simultaneously unlike in PlexTools (probably by transparently switching scanning modes for short segments of the disc) and you are not restricted to 2x CLV scanning, so the scan can be done in a more reasonable time than with PlexTools. PxScan/PxView is probably still faster, however.
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Old Posted: 24-05-2009
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Dear Friends

I'd love it if a Mac version were developed!

All I can do now is see the confirmation that Toast verified my discs successfully, and spot-check file copies from the Mac's Finder.

I back up my images monthly to optical media. Each month I have 21-26GB of data and burn this data to one set of DVD-R (Taiyo-Yuden 16x Hardcoat) and one set to DVD+R DL (Verbatim 8x). Beginning in June I'm eliminating the DVD+R DL backup and will use BD-R (4x Verbatim). So I'll still have two optical backups, one on DVD-R and one on BD-R.

I just wish there were a way to check the quality of my discs on my Macs.

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Old Posted: 25-05-2009
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If you have an Intel Mac, then just run a bare-bones copy of 2000 or XP in a VM and use that for testing.

The real problem is for those of us who still use PPC Macs. While you can run a VM on one, the emulation is much slower, and not worth the trouble. I just use a PPC Mac and Intel PC side by side with a KVM. My PC is for drive diagnostics, media testing, and firmware updating, but I do my burning on my Mac.

I doubt that anyone is ever going to spend the time to create an OS X specific version of any of these tools, and now that modern Macs use an Intel chipset and can run Windows at full speed, it really isn't that big of a deal anymore.
Old Posted: 27-05-2009
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Hmm write support for the PIONEER BDR-203 don't look right on this screenshot (BD-R/BD-RW DOUBLE LAYER)

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Old Posted: 28-05-2009
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btw, what is DVD-R DL LJR
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_Jump_Recording_(LJR)
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If you have an Intel Mac, then just run a bare-bones copy of 2000 or XP in a VM and use that for testing.
Dear negritude & Friends

I've been meaning to install Windows on an extra drive, but I can't bring myself to part with US$85 to do it, which is the least-expensive option I've found using pricegrabber.com and bountii.com.

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I've been meaning to install Windows on an extra drive, but I can't bring myself to part with US$85 to do it, which is the least-expensive option I've found using pricegrabber.com and bountii.com.
For just playing around I would suggest Windows 7 RC 1. The price is competitive ... since it's free.

I've got the 32 bit version of Win 7 RC1 installed via Boot Camp on my MacBook for those times when I want to use windows on the MB. My desktop dual boots Win XP SP3 and the 64 bit Win 7 RC1. Lately I've pretty much moved to using primarily Win 7 RC 1 since in my case it's more stable than my XP install. (Don't know what's up with my XP install, but it's annoyingly flakey ...)

It's still got bugs, but it's been stable enough to be quite usable from my perspective. YMMV, of course.

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Old Posted: 28-05-2009
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Eric,

Do you plan on making Opti Drive Control compatible with the Lite-on iHAS220 drive?

This is my main scanning drive and soon as I select the drive i get this error and the program closes.




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Old Posted: 28-05-2009
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Eric,

Do you plan on making Opti Drive Control compatible with the Lite-on iHAS220 drive?

This is my main scanning drive and soon as I select the drive i get this error and the program closes.




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Same thing happens if I select my USB BenQ DW1650.
Old Posted: 28-05-2009
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Eric,

Do you plan on making Opti Drive Control compatible with the Lite-on iHAS220 drive?

This is my main scanning drive and soon as I select the drive i get this error and the program closes.

Thanks
I actually use ODC with my iHAS220 ever since day one of its 1.00 release and never had a problem with functionality... another weird bug huh.
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Old Posted: 29-05-2009
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Hey evo69,

Is you drive using the same firmware?

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I actually use ODC with my iHAS220 ever since day one of its 1.00 release and never had a problem with functionality... another weird bug huh.
Old Posted: 29-05-2009
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frankly i don't like the ODC at all and i prefer the old nero tool
the program has a lot of problems and bugs
and it looks so bad

in future versions may be better
i suggest some different color themes
may be a jitter speed option too
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Hey evo69,

Is you drive using the same firmware?

Thanks
Actually no, I'm using C0deKing's iHAS220 8LC2 which fixes quite a few bugs and slightly improves quality when writing.
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Old Posted: 29-05-2009
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Very good, thanks evo69

Flashing in a bit...



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Actually no, I'm using C0deKing's iHAS220 8LC2 which fixes quite a few bugs and slightly improves quality when writing.
Old Posted: 29-05-2009
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Thanks for all the feedback

I'm still checking a few reported issues but most of them are fixed in 1.10 which has just been released.

This the change log:
  • Added themes and customizable graph colors
  • Disc Quality, CD Bler: added option to set Y-scale to a fixed value
  • Bug fixes:
    • Screenshot was not correctly saved when the autosave option was enabled
    • Transfer Rate: RPM was incorrectly displayed for double layer DVDs
    • Create test disc: write speed selection was ignored with some drives
    • Create test disc: an error in the ISO96600 structure caused errors with the verification (CD only)
    • Disc quality: fixed problem with excessive CPU usage when scanning DVDs
    • Disc quality: under certain conditions scanning with Mediatek based drives could not start
    • Disc quality: BenQ drives could not scan past the first layer
    • Disc quality: Error occured at the end of the test when scanning DVDs with Plextor drives
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