CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test

Disc Testing Methods and Software Discuss, CD-DVD Speed Disc Quality (PI/PIF) Test at Blank Media forum; Did some reading and found out that the 35xx can do PI/PIF scanning w/ updated firmware. However, I did not find any firmware that supports PI/PIF scanning for the 2500a. I'm thinking I should just get a plain old lite-on dvd-rom drive to just use for ripping and scanning. What

Old Posted: 17-05-2005
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Did some reading and found out that the 35xx can do PI/PIF scanning w/ updated firmware. However, I did not find any firmware that supports PI/PIF scanning for the 2500a.

I'm thinking I should just get a plain old lite-on dvd-rom drive to just use for ripping and scanning. What do you guys think? Also, any specific recomendations for a drive just to use for ripping/scanning? Idealy I would want a fairly inexpensive drive that can still give good scans.
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Old Posted: 17-05-2005
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Originally Posted by oopnoyoo
Did some reading and found out that the 35xx can do PI/PIF scanning w/ updated firmware. However, I did not find any firmware that supports PI/PIF scanning for the 2500a.

I'm thinking I should just get a plain old lite-on dvd-rom drive to just use for ripping and scanning. What do you guys think? Also, any specific recomendations for a drive just to use for ripping/scanning? Idealy I would want a fairly inexpensive drive that can still give good scans.
The NEC drives 3520 and up can do PI/PIF scans. The 25x0 will not be supported. The 3500 might be supported, but that's not sure for now. If the 3500 will be supported by means of a new firmware, there's a change that Liggy can port the PI/PIF code to a 25x0 firmware. But for the moment, it doesn't look very good. The only kind of scanning you can do for now on your 2500 is CD DVD-speed's transfer test, which can be very informative anyway.

You could consider upgrading your drive with one of Herrie's (www.herrie.org) firmwares, to allow DL writing on your drive and some other nice bonus features.

Instead of a Liteon DVD-ROM, you could also consider the AOpen 1648/AAP drive. It's a fast ripper which does all kinds of error scanning.
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Old Posted: 18-05-2005
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The NEC drives 3520 and up can do PI/PIF scans. The 25x0 will not be supported. The 3500 might be supported, but that's not sure for now. If the 3500 will be supported by means of a new firmware, there's a change that Liggy can port the PI/PIF code to a 25x0 firmware. But for the moment, it doesn't look very good. The only kind of scanning you can do for now on your 2500 is CD DVD-speed's transfer test, which can be very informative anyway.

You could consider upgrading your drive with one of Herrie's (www.herrie.org) firmwares, to allow DL writing on your drive and some other nice bonus features.

Instead of a Liteon DVD-ROM, you could also consider the AOpen 1648/AAP drive. It's a fast ripper which does all kinds of error scanning.
I currently have herrie's 2k5107v2b5d and will soon reflash it to 108v3-2.
I'll check out the AOpen drive. Thanks a ton for the info/suggestions!!
Old Posted: 19-05-2005
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>>ErikDeppe
I found a bug in v3.80 when burning a data disc ISO

If I select options just to view them and without altering them. Then upon closing the options dialogue box the program crashes and leaves me with a partialy burnt disc
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>>ErikDeppe
I found a bug in v3.80 when burning a data disc ISO

If I select options just to view them and without altering them. Then upon closing the options dialogue box the program crashes and leaves me with a partialy burnt disc
Wish I'd read that earlier as the same thing happened to me thursday 19th and then yesterday 20th May.

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Old Posted: 21-05-2005
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I noticed with PIE/PIF-scanning on my NEC 3540 that with some DVD's I can choose 1x, 5x, 8x, 12x, 16x or max as the scanning speed, while with others I can choose from 1x, 4x, 6x, 10x, 13x or max. Can anyone explain why this is?
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Old Posted: 22-05-2005
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I would ask could someone post a few results from different media test results, and write a comment on each of them.
I would like to know what is specially good in a test and what's wrong and why.
I'm referring special to the PIF and PIE results and the effect on the quality score.
I did read this thread but find it rather difficult to judge the graphs.
Perhaps there a few others who are interested in being explained what's going on.

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Old Posted: 24-05-2005
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I can't perform the "Disc Quality Test". This option has been disabled.

My writer is LG 4040b, A304 firmware.

Is there a problem with my dvd burner?? What other software can I use to perform the quality test??
Old Posted: 24-05-2005
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Old Posted: 26-05-2005
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but will 2510 be not supported ? or have no chances, at least until a new firmware ?
Old Posted: 26-05-2005
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but will 2510 be not supported ? or have no chances, at least until a new firmware ?
First, the 3500 PI/PIF firmware has to be released. Then, Liggy has to succeed in porting the PI/PIF section to a 25x0 firmware, which seems to be a hell of a job! Then, CD DVD-speed has to support the new 25x0 firmware. But when the PI/PIF software comes from a 3500 firmware, chances are that CD DVD-speed will support the firmware in 3500 mode.
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Where Is Nero CD-DVD Speed v4.0.0.0 ?

Or Has CDRinfo Jumped The Gun?
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Inside the latest nero package, V6.6.0.14.
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Inside the latest nero package, V6.6.0.14.
Thanks Ala42 Downloading It Now
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Wow CD-DVD Speed: 4.0.0.0 Looks Good

I Really Like The New User Interface
Especially The Interface Being Resizable. (Nice)
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Quote:
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Wow CD-DVD Speed: 4.0.0.0 Looks Good

I Really Like The New User Interface
Especially The Interface Being Resizable. (Nice)
Yeah, it does looks good and the resizing is cool

It doesn't remember the resizing when the application is closed though .
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Quote:
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Yeah, it does looks good and the resizing is cool

It doesn't remember the resizing when the application is closed though .
Very True

Plus When People Start Posting There Scans On The Forum In png Format
At Different Sizes, I Think It's Going To Look Messy Not Uniform.
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Quote:
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Plus When People Start Posting There Scans On The Forum In png Format
At Different Sizes, I Think It's Going To Look Messy Not Uniform.
I agree and the image size can be huge, just click maximize.

On a brighter note, I like the new disc info and scandisc. Also the tabs are cool and save clicks
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Version 4.00 is now also available on http://www.cdspeed2000.com
This is the biggest update since version 1.00

Here is the list of changes:
  • Greatly improved user interface
  • Window is resizable
  • More customization options for the graphs
  • Gradient backgrounds
  • Disc Info
    • Improved user interface
    • More detailed information is shown
    • Disc information can be copied to the clipboard as plain text or HTML
  • ScanDisc
    • Improved user interface
    • Increased accuracy
    • C1/C2 or PI/PO information can be used to check the disc quality which gives much more detailed information than the standard read test
    • The quality of each track (AudioCD), chapter (DVD Video) or file (Data disc) is shown which makes it very easy to verify the integrity of the disc contents
  • Small improvements and bug fixes

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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Thanks for the great update (once more a reason to stay away from ...)
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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Some screenshots:





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Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Looks very nice the new version
Old Posted: 14-06-2005
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Thanks Erik for this great release. Version 4.0 looks cool...

We are many out there waiting for the new NEC ND-3500 PIE/PIF firmware. Is this version of CD/DVD Speed able to support that?
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The Nero update posted today also upgrades CDSpeed to 4.0.
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version 4.00 crashes when I click on the disc quality tab
also when I click on scandisk tab...

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