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Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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TYG02's ... frustration is mounting!!!

I can't seem to consistently hit < 200 PIF total at 12x lately. Judging from everyone's scans, appears the expectation should be to be well below <100 or 150 max PIF's.

Not sure if something's up with these TYG02's I bought (Staples 3-color) - doubtful - or my burner (possibly) or my harddrive's wiggin' out. I've reinstalled, reflashed, defragged like mad, virus scanned, adware scanned ... everything short of re-formatting!!

I've tried 2 different batch #'s (095, 103 .. 095's are occassionally better) and media out of 3 different 30 packs.

I got teased big time with my lowest PIF total ever ( link ), but it's been a wild ride ever since then.

My last series of TYG02 burns on B7T9 (stock, WOPC on) ... PIF totals:
@ 12x: 390, 950, 239, 5409 (!!), 49, 416
@ 8x: 282, 117, 423, 278

Pretty disappointing knowing TYG02 media deserve better representation than this.

I guess I may have to reformat ... (sigh) ... I hope it isn't the burner or harddrive. Uuugghh.
I wouldn't be to concerned as mine don't always give me <100 pif like this.Batch (95).
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Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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@ crossg:

Thanks for posting that. Well, I suppose that's reassuring. So, if that's one extreme ... I'd sure luv to jump into the other extremes that you get as well. Thanks again.

My burner definitely produces a helluva lot more PIE than yours do. Well, I guess I just chalk it up to all the 'variables' and maybe just accept what my particular burner is capable of.

I loaded up on TYG02's, but maybe I'll have to exchange some for TY T02's, which seem relatively more consistent. But ... it's like the world jsut stops for a moment ... when I see that white pop up box comeup at the end of the scan and see 2 digits in the PIF total section. Ahhhh ... I just have to kind take a moment for myself ... and relish it. ( man, i miss that .. hehe )
Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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No Problem ninbang. Just burned another from the same 50 cake box, just dug down deeper in the pile ( about 10 down from the burn I posted) and guess what sub 50 pif. So I believe it is just media variation. Will post it in the Dare thread later. People must be getting sick of TYG02 scans though.
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Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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No Problem ninbang. Just burned another from the same 50 cake box, just dug down deeper in the pile ( about 10 down from the burn I posted) and guess what sub 50 pif. So I believe it is just media variation. ...
Hmm .... well ... then, there it is.

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... People must be getting sick of TYG02 scans though. ...
Got any deteriorating Ritek scans? Hehe.
Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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Hehe. Yes about 150 of them!! Backed them up on TY and got finished about a month ago.
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Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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Hehe. Yes about 150 of them!! Backed them up on TY and got finished about a month ago.
YIKES!! That's a HUGE backup (aka salvage) project. My-o-my.
Old Posted: 15-08-2005
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Fuji DVD+R 8X@12X WOPC off :
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Old Posted: 16-08-2005
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1/ Fuji DVD+R 8X@8X WOPC ON

2/ Fuji DVD+R 8X@12X WOPC ON
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Old Posted: 16-08-2005
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@ItalianJob. Is the batch # of that Fuji media 1159 by chance? PIF's show up in the same places as mine between 2 and 2.5 Gb. Compare Here

Maxell RG03 DVD-R 8x
BenQ 1620 B7V9 FW
Burned @ 8x.
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Old Posted: 16-08-2005
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B7T9, WOPC on
Office Max 8x DVD +R
Made In India
MBIPG101 R04

Scan #1:
Was using Norton Ghost 2003 to burn a hdd image directly to dvd, but now I know better than trust the burning to Norton. Burned in DOS ... I think at 2.4x ... took 25 minutes to burn!! As I was putting the disc into my other drive, the tray closed jamming 1/2 the disc inside. Take a wild guess where the scratches were.

Scan #2:
Burned @ 8x in Nero 6.6.0.15.
Old Posted: 16-08-2005
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@ItalianJob. Is the batch # of that Fuji media 1159 by chance?
1159 the batch # is
Old Posted: 16-08-2005
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FUJIFILM Branded YUDEN000 T02 DVD+R 8x.
B7V9 Firmware WOPC on
Burned @12x

I'm still waiting for my first 99 score.
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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edit double post - please delete
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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TDK PrintOn DVD-R 8X (CMC-produced TTG02)
Burned @ 8X w/ B7V9 FW.



I think we can all agree this is an absolutely horrid disc. This spindle has alot of these, along with many good discs, but this is classic CMC variation.

The most amazing part is... it's actually readable! This is a real testament to the excellent reading ability of BenQ drives, which I think are the best rippers on the market.




It's got 8 damaged files, but they're still readable!
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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... TDK PrintOn DVD-R 8X (CMC-produced TTG02)
Burned @ 8X w/ B7V9 FW ... I think we can all agree this is an absolutely horrid disc. This spindle has alot of these, along with many good discs, but this is classic CMC variation. ...
Are these the ones that are 2 for 1 at Costco? If they are, I'm sure glad I passed on buying them. Great deal. Questionable media.
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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Wanted to try my luck with some Verb DL, looks like 6x speed might be a little fast for this media. Plays very nice just the same.
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Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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@crankydan. That actually looks like a pretty good dual layer burn. Most have a huge spike at the layer change. Just an FYI You can disable the title of the scan by going to file >options>Disc Quality and uncheck show disc label in Nero CD -DVD speed of course.
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Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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Are these the ones that are 2 for 1 at Costco? If they are, I'm sure glad I passed on buying them. Great deal. Questionable media.
yep, and these are going straight back to costco.
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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@ RangeRoad:

Man ... sorry to hear that then. I guess all the criticism of TDK/CMC media is true then.


@ CrankyDan:

Time to spray some RoundUp ... looks like you've got a PIF weed patch growing in that 2nd layer. I haven't been impressed at all with Dual Layer burns in general. Compared to SL, just seems way too much PIF's to justify the expense. I wonder how they'll hold up? Good luck with yours.
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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Crossg,

What you dont like my fancy paint job, LOL.

Ninbang,

LOL, ya there is some green there, I dont plan on using this media all the time. I couldnt pass up on the 2 for 1 sale, damn I sound like my wife. She is starting to get tired of hearing me say, "but it was on sale". LMAO
Old Posted: 17-08-2005
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FUJIFILM Branded YUDEN000 T02 DVD+R 8x.
B7V9 Firmware WOPC on
Burned @12x

I'm still waiting for my first 99 score.
You would have better chance with Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 8X (TYG02, sold by Plextor or even Verbatim "Pastel") @12X WOPC off.
Old Posted: 18-08-2005
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Maybe so but i guess i will live another day or so if i don't get that 99

Anyway thx for the info.
Old Posted: 19-08-2005
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Taiyo Yuden Unbranded TYG03 DVD-R 16x.
BenQ1620 B7V9 FW.
Create Data Disc @16x.
TYG03@TYG02 MCSE Strat Swap.
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Old Posted: 19-08-2005
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verbatims and fujis, forget the speed either 8x or 12x ahhah, 1620 b7v9
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Old Posted: 19-08-2005
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again i didnt mark the speeds but its either 8x or 12x, verbatims and fujis, 1620 b7v9
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