BenQ / Philips Writer Discuss, Post your BenQ DW1620 media here at CD and DVD Writers forum; I'm burning these at 12X as the burn time is only 15 sec. longer then 16X but KProbes are significantly better. Attached Images MCC004_12X_2_BenQ_KProbe.PNG (19.9 KB, 396 views) MCC004_12X_BenQ_KProbe.PNG (20.0 KB, 395 views)

Old Posted: 19-12-2004
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I'm burning these at 12X as the burn time is only 15 sec. longer then 16X but KProbes are significantly better.
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I'm burning these at 12X as the burn time is only 15 sec. longer then 16X but KProbes are significantly better.
What firmware rev are you using?
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pcdoc > Do you use round or flat cables?
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Old Posted: 19-12-2004
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Damn, wonder what happened to my reply post to rolling??

Anyway, I'm currently using round 80 pin. I've tested various brands of round versus flat and I have experienced little to no difference...........
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Old Posted: 19-12-2004
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pcdoc > Not sure where the other post went lol But thanks for the reply. It will save me some time not messing with testing both in my machine
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pcdoc > Not sure where the other post went lol But thanks for the reply. It will save me some time not messing with testing both in my machine
Kool!

This way if you ever have a problem relating to IDE cables you can either PM me and tell me it's my fault LOL, or post publicly and attack!!! ROFL

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Benq DW1620 B7S9 at 8X
DVD-R INFOMEDIAR20 8X (Emgeton)
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Here's two Verbatim MCC 003 DVD+R discs. The first one was burned at 8X and the second one was burned at 12X. The weird thing is that the 12X speed burn looks better than the 8X speed one?

Oh well, I guess I'll stick to 12X speed with these discs - it's quicker and seems to give better results. Anyone else experience this with Verbatim MCC 003 media?
I get the same results 8X and 12X with MCC 003 (B7S9)
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Ok...here is post on Teon 8x DVD-R@12xfrom Staples BF..they are CMC MAG AE1

How in the world can this be a Quality score of 99 with all the PI errors??!!

this was burned with Nero 6.3.1.25..I am still having pretty large buffer flucuations...burn time was 6:50sec
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Ok...here is post on Teon 8x DVD-R@12xfrom Staples BF..they are CMC MAG AE1

How in the world can this be a Quality score of 99 with all the PI errors??!!
Wow, that should be a coaster, ie Quality score of 0 (zero).

I figured that Nero CD Speed will show quality score of
100 if max PIF = 0
99 if max PIF = 1-3, etc

Maybe we can notify the author regarding this.
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Hmm..why would say it should be quality score of 0....It surely is not a 99...
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Here's The Teon +R CMC MAG E01 i got from Staples. Nero CD/DVD Speed test was set at 16 but only burned at 8x. Guess B7P9 will only let them burn at 8x? Oh well not bad for the price.
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here's another scan using MAXELL DVD+R 8x burned @ 12x. this time i used my second I/O MAGIC BENQ drive but with firmware G7P9. thanks for the other comments in my first scan that i posted. any comments on this one will be greatly appreciated.
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You know whats unusual my Fujifilm03 media burning at 8x with a time of 13 minutes, I don't think this is normal. This must be some bad dye at higher speed.
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Hmm..why would say it should be quality score of 0....It surely is not a 99...
Because the max PIE is above 280, can be considered as a coaster, thus quality score should be 0.
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thats right I forgot that greater 280 is beyond spec....yet these play great on my dvd players...the media is real crap IMHO..sorry I did not get 2 +r but I wanted to try -r....never again but if the rebate comes $5 for 40 coasters..HEHE not bad

btw on dvd+r( or -r for that matter) how many errors total on PIE/PIF are bad not just max..but total must be important too
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thats right I forgot that greater 280 is beyond spec....yet these play great on my dvd players...the media is real crap IMHO..sorry I did not get 2 +r but I wanted to try -r....never again but if the rebate comes $5 for 40 coasters..HEHE not bad

btw on dvd+r( or -r for that matter) how many errors total on PIE/PIF are bad not just max..but total must be important too
That's a very interesting scan. I believe that CDSpeed uses the "PI Failures" (lower graph) as its only criteria for determining cd quality, and that this is mostly based on the PI Failures peaks.

And not only does your scan have a very low PI Failures peak of 3, but it has a very low PI Failures count of only 150 - both EXCELLENT values. So I guess this means that the "PI Errors" (top graph) were of a type that were extremely correctable - despite the high peak of 592.

This suggests to me that perhaps the 1620 B7P9 firmware is not yet properly optimized for this disc type, but that the disc material is of sufficiently high quality that it is still quite readable - despite the poor PI Errors. The fact that your players have no trouble with it also tends to confirm this.

It would be very interesting to see this disc scanned on another burner - say a LiteOn burner. The results might be very different.
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spartane..I have a liteon 811s in a firewire enclosure can I use k probe with it?
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nealh > I read this in NEC forum not sure if it works as i don't have one > Just change the Kprobe interface to SPTI instead of ASPI and all external devices should be available.
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Hi nealh,

I have no experience with external enclosures, but both CDSpeed and KProbe should work with the 811 drive. SPTI is a good choice (for KProbe).

My own preference is CDSpeed. Whichever one you use you should probably limit the scan speed to 4X, since the LiteOns get a bit spikey when you scan with them at full speed.
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Here's some interesting scans...
I burned a TYG02 at 16x with Nero...I calculated the time and it was a 6:28 burn , not too bad.
Then, since I'm still learning this burner, I scanned the disc...I was *SO* proud of the quality of this burn during the scan that MID-WAY I decided to take a screenshot of just how *damn* sweet the burn was going (just in case it didn't end up as well). So, by 3 GB into the burn I only had a total of 10 PIFs and the highest was 1!

Well, it turns out it was a good thing I did, because the burn went south! I've included what turns out to be the worst burn I've gotten with my BenQ (how ironic that the disc I was so amazed with the initial quality turned out to be my worst ).

So, although it might play on someone's settop, with SO MANY POF's I'd consider this a coaster so I decided to burn the same image at 12x (also TYG02) and see what happened. Well, it took 5 seconds longer ( ) but turned out much better.

I think I had better just stick to 12x on the TYG02, even though most of my 16x burns are very good to excellent...I figure the additional 5 to 30 seconds I'll spend is negligable (especially when I won't have to scan them!) vs the risk of getting another one of these!
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insaneoctane, you should start the story with...

I took the first a screenshot at 0.4GB, with no PIF and the Quality Score is 100%!
Then another screenshot at 3GB.....

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I'm not an expert on PIE / PIF/ POF, but I've read my share on them...
Doesn't it seem in order to have such high PIFs at the end that the PIE values would have to be higher also???? Look at max PIE (18), max PIF (43)
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