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BenQ / Philips Writer Discuss, CDFreaks presents BenQ DW1670 Preview at CD and DVD Writers forum; It was out in Japan last week

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21021 (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Posted: 24-04-2006
It was out in Japan last week
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Phoenix '97 (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 29-04-2006
Would you be able to test RITEK D01 media with this drive in the full review? The DL scans in the preview look quite promising, and I'm still looking for a good burner to match with these discs (I recently bought a 50 pack for $100 Cdn.)
I love my 1640 for its disc quality scanning ability and superb single-layer 8x (even with 4x media) writing abilites, but it usually fails to make the layer jump when writing these discs, regardless of the firmware or WOPC state I try.
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thia@9 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 29-04-2006
DW1670 Secret command.
http://pc8.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/cdr/1139062998/285-370

<1>. Push the eject button.
<2>. Tray is ejected.
<3>. Keep pushing button about 15 seconds.
<4>. LED blinks.
<5>. Tray speed quickens.

<6>. Repeat <1>~<5>
<7>. more quickens.

Max Speed.
http://dvd-r.jpn.org/DW1670/DW1670.avi (On2 VP7)
http://dvd-r.jpn.org/DW1670/DW1670.wmv (Windows Media)
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Internal ATA/ATAPI:
ST3320620AS/DVR-111/DVR-A12XL/DW1655/DW1670/PX-716A/PX-760A/PX-810SA/AD-7170S/GSA-H42N/GSA-H55N/DH-20A3P/LH-20A1S/SHM-165P6S/DRW-1814BLT/SW-9587/TS-H653A/LF-MB121JD
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DV-W28SLC/TS-L632D/AD-7540A/PX-712SA/PX-755A
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yxy (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 08-05-2006
Had the same problem with my 1640 under BEGB+firewire before.

Now I got my 1670 but my Ritek D01 are all gone (burned by PL-716A perfectly although pi/po scan looks ugly)

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Originally Posted by Phoenix '97
Would you be able to test RITEK D01 media with this drive in the full review? The DL scans in the preview look quite promising, and I'm still looking for a good burner to match with these discs (I recently bought a 50 pack for $100 Cdn.)
I love my 1640 for its disc quality scanning ability and superb single-layer 8x (even with 4x media) writing abilites, but it usually fails to make the layer jump when writing these discs, regardless of the firmware or WOPC state I try.
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Wesociety (CD Freak)
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Posted: 08-05-2006
@:Phoenix '97, we use RITEKD01 in almost all of our reviews, so yes we will probably be able to have it in there for you.

I'll also try to get a test burn posted in here if I can.
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Sapo (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 10-05-2006
I didn't see it posted here, so I'll mention that according to a Fatwallet thread, the DW1670 does not support PI/PO quality scan testing. I'm glad I got a 1650 and 1655. I sure hope they last a long time because by the time they die, I'm afraid no manufacturers will be making any cheap (under $50) drives capable of doing both good burns and good error scans.

It's sad when things get worse as technology progresses or when one company buys out another and ruins it. (I used to use MBNA Bank until Bank of America bought them and made their MMF and CD rates pitiful.)
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Phoenix '97 (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 11-05-2006
Thanks, I checked the reviews of the ASUS drives you have there and they seem pretty good with the D01s. Maybe I'll get one of those if the 1670 doesn't stand up to the challenge.
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pinto2 (DVD Freak)
Posts: 7,545
Posted: 12-05-2006
It's been up for a while but can't see it's been posted here.

BenQ DW1670 "characteristic" (futures) as posted on DW1670 homepage.
Use babelfish (trad. chinese to english) for translation.
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* Continues the DW1640 fine fever to record the quality
* Extremely Jan style fashion kneading board
* The fever records the specification integrity, but read-write DVD-RAM, DVD+/-R, DVD+/-RW, market condition and so on in DVD+/- R DL various types disc piece specification
* BenQ one's own 雙效 cooling system
* One's own "Write Right" the advanced technology and guards against the tilting adjustment (Tilt Control), guarantees the best fever to record the quality
* BenQ Seamless the link mysterious chain technology, effectively prevented the fever records the severance, the joint gap (Gap) largely reduces to 2 microns (um), the fever records the quality to have the safeguard
* "Auto-Pilot" the fever records the speed automatic correction function, detects the system potency, the peripheral equipment condition as necessary, as well as writes the disc piece the quality, provides the fever to record the speed optimization
* Uses quickly dodges the memory body (Flash Memory) to store up the system strong body (Firmware), may penetrate Internet downloading to promote, matches the newest soft hardware, needs to worry the compatibility
* Uses several servocontrol, provides the signal automatic gain with to compensate, the material reads takes with reads in rapidly is correct
* Has the power failure urgently to draw back the piece organization, meets the power cut or the system failure, may the manual security draw back the piece.
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DrageMester (Retired Moderator)
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Posted: 12-05-2006
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Originally Posted by pinto2
* Extremely Jan style fashion kneading board
Why doesn't any of my drives have this?

I'm not exactly sure what it is, but I'm sure it's something very very important and exciting, and I must get me some of that!

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Machine translations are ridiculously funny sometimes, especially when translating between eastern and western languages.
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lukehu (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 14-05-2006
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* Extremely Jan style fashion kneading board
I can read Chinese, it actually says:

“Simple face plate design in match of current style.”

Nothing really fancy here.
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andjelkoyu (New on Forum)
Posts: 20
Posted: 14-05-2006
Nice (p)review, though we'll have to wait for the final version.

On the top of the page 2: "The BenQ DW1670 was connected as Primary Master and identified itself as PLEXTOR BENQ DVD DC DW1670. DMA (Direct Memory Access) and autorun was enabled for all devices."

I know it's typo, but what the heck is Plextor word doing here?
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rd72 (New on Forum)
Posts: 20
Posted: 28-05-2006
It's out in Asia. I got one in Indonesia last week. I install the Benq Suite but it doesn't have overburn. It only has book type and test write. I think the software is not fully compatible with dw1670. Hopefully it will in near future.
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pmarion (New on Forum)
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Posted: 31-05-2006
It looks as if it is now available here in the US. At the very least, the info is now available in English. And QSuite is supported.


http://www.benq.com/products/Storage...&page=features
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chiguai (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 31-05-2006
ah but you didn't read the first page of Products:

" * Products shown on this website are not
necessarily available in all regions. "
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ala42 (MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author)
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Posted: 01-06-2006
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Originally Posted by pmarion
And QSuite is supported.
Right, but all the nice features available in QSuite with other Benq drives are not supported, e.g Solidburn, Overspeed, QScan.
Edit: The info on the Benq site you have quoted is wrong. It also names the DQ60 instead of the 1670, and also that drive does not offer the nice features.
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andjelkoyu (New on Forum)
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Posted: 01-06-2006
Qscan tab is actually present according to screenshot on the page, but as we all know TE/FE is not reliable marker, though this drive do not support PIE/PIF/POF/Jitter scanning.
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chiguai (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 01-06-2006
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Originally Posted by andjelkoyu
Qscan tab is actually present according to screenshot on the page, but as we all know TE/FE is not reliable marker, though this drive do not support PIE/PIF/POF/Jitter scanning.
I think if you look very closely at the screen shot, the drive shown in the QSuite shot is the 1640 and NOT the 1670. Same with typo in the DVD-RAM area saying DQ60 instead of the 1670. I am not counting on QSuite ever being a feature of the 1670, tho will wait and see what happens if and when BenQ releases updated firmware for it
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andjelkoyu (New on Forum)
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Posted: 01-06-2006
yes, you are correct, it really is DW1640. I was also confused with that Qscan tab in the first place. I also do not expect they'll ever succeed to enable all the features as with Philips chipset.
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super macgyver (CD Freaks Rookie)
Posts: 34
Posted: 05-06-2006
Taiwan forumer got sum benchmark on the DW1670 & had show good result, i might as well get 1 in malaysia tomorrow too.
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exscalibur99 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 05-06-2006
great super mac... sell em cheap chep too...
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Fela Kuti (New on Forum)
Posts: 27
Posted: 10-06-2006
Guys, I'm thinking of getting a 1670, but people here say it's not as good as 1650. Is it true? What I know that it doesn't have SolidBurn, but is SolidBurn really important? Last but not least, can I use Nero CD/DVD Speed disc quality with it? Because I've heard it doesn't support PI/PO scan.

thanks
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ala42 (MediaCodeSpeedEdit Author)
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Posted: 10-06-2006
Read the reviews.
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Fela Kuti (New on Forum)
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Posted: 10-06-2006
There's no review yet for the 1670, mate.
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DrageMester (Retired Moderator)
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Posted: 10-06-2006
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Originally Posted by Fela Kuti
There's no review yet for the 1670, mate.
Not on CDFreaks anyway, but there is a preview of the BenQ DW1670, and there's also a review of the Sony DRU-820A which is the same hardware as the BenQ DW1670.
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Nil Einne (CD Freaks Member)
Posts: 221
Posted: 10-06-2006
Personally I would have to say this.

At the moment, the Benq 1670 is definitely not as good as the 1650 and 1640. However bear in mind with a completely different chipset it will take a while for the 1670 firmware to become mature (it took them so long to release it which may be related to this). Eventually 1670 could conceivablly rival the 1650 & 1640. But we don't know. We know from history that Benq will probably do their best and provide firmware updates for a long while. But it depends what the platform, especially the chipset is capable of. Perhaps the 1670 will never be as good. Perhaps it will eventually destroy the 1650 and 1640.

Personally, unless you need/want RAM support, I will just get the 1650
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