*Burn Quality Hall of Fame

insaneoctane · 20-01-2005

This a supplement to the "Post your BenQ DW1620 media here" started by Eagleclaw. The purpose of this is to isolate the truely distinctive amazing burns. This will be a great thread to refer anyone to when we claim that BenQ burns the highest quality discs of any burner made!

So, here are the requirements to post here:

Minimum CD Speed quality score is 99%
Maximum PIE Value is 20
Minimum size of DVD burnt is 4300 MB
Minimum burn SPEED is 12x

Please adhere to these rules, NO marginal exceptions, PLEASE

Now for some organizational requests...please include typing the key information from your burn and scan in body of your message (Media code, Burn speed and time, Quality score, PIE total, PIE max, PIF total, and PIF max). If you posted your image already, then just use the "Insert Hyperlink" and point to the individual post.
Good luck, and I hope EVERY BenQ owner has an oppurtunity to post multiple entries to this list!

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insaneoctane · 20-01-2005

Okay, well I'll be the first in with my "signature" burn...
Media: TYG02
Burn speed: 16X
Burn time: 6:07
Quality: 99%
PIE total: 15,035
PIE MAX: 15
PIF total: 29
PIF MAX: 3

LINK to SCAN

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insaneoctane · 20-01-2005

Here's another entry...
Media: TYG02
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: 6:31
Quality: 99%
PIE total: 10,304
PIE MAX: 18
PIF total: 27
PIF MAX: 2
Link to SCAN

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free4all · 21-01-2005

Time for a DVD+R entry:

Media: Memorex / MBIPG101 R04 (Moser Baer India)
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: 6:37
Quality: 99%
PIE total: 4,706
PIE MAX: 7
PIF total: 61
PIF MAX: 3

Link To Scan

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KubaKuba · 21-01-2005

Media: Verbatim DVD+R 8X (MCC 003)
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: unknown (cca 6:30)

Scan speed: 8X
Quality: 99%
PIE Total: 27290
PIE MAX: 12
PIF Total: 24
PIF MAX: 2

Scan speed: 4X
Quality: 99%
PIE Total: 25628
PIE MAX: 10
PIF Total: 27
PIF MAX: 3

Link to scans

Andrei · 21-01-2005

Media: EProformance (Prodisc R03)
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: 6:34

Scan speed: 8X
Quality: 99%
PIE Total: 15881
PIE MAX: 8
PIF Total: 251
PIF MAX: 3

Check here

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jeroni · 21-01-2005

I hope to see some awesome Fuji DVD+R 8x(Tayo-Yuden) burned at 12x

Hope its possible to get those nice scores with that media too

By the way

This is a nice Topic

ruthless357 · 21-01-2005

Media: Verbatim MCC004
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: 6:23

Scan speed: 8X
Quality: 99%
PIE Total: 36295
PIE MAX: 14
PIF Total: 40
PIF MAX: 3

*Xterminator* · 21-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruthless357

Media: Verbatim MCC004
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: 6:23

Scan speed: 8X
Quality: 99%
PIE Total: 36295
PIE MAX: 14
PIF Total: 40
PIF MAX: 3

Where's the link?

ruthless357 · 21-01-2005

Sorry is here

http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment....id=21634&stc=1

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cor808 · 21-01-2005

I think this one also belongs in tha hall of fame.

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**MegaDETH** · 22-01-2005

Media: TYG02 (Fuji 8x 25 cake pack Best Buy)
Burn speed: 12X
Burn time: 6:35
Quality: 99%
PIE total: 22,852
PIE MAX: 11
PIF total: 77
PIF MAX: 3

Click Me

**zevia** · 22-01-2005

Taiyo Yuden YUDEN000-T02 8x DVD+R burned at 12x
BenQ 1620A B7P9

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test123 · 22-01-2005

To be honest I doubt the TY02 media would ever achieve 99%. I have only seen very rare reports of this ever happening. For some reason the TYG02 has been getting 99% scores more often. But as I mentioned b/4 these scores have a +/- error percentage so it is really hard to say what the true burn is actually showing. By exptrapolating the results that best one can say is both TY02 and TYG02 produce >95% burns when using B7P9 FW.

Zevia....I would like to see that TY02 scanned at 8x or 12x and see if you get the same results. Please post that scan. I have scanned several 12x TY02 burns at 4x and the results were all 97%.

Also the burn quality will depend on the quality of the original DVD that was used in the process. If the original has issues then the burned copy will show them and then some.

Cor808....I noticed that you were using the B7T9 FW for the 99% burn. That was interesting b/c all my research shows the TY media burns better using B7P8 FW. I will have to test the B7T9 and see what the results are. Was that burned at 12x and scanned at 8x?

*socrates007* · 22-01-2005

I just want to raise a question regarding the name of this thread. Is it really appropriate to call these Nero CD-DVD Speed error scans "burn quality" scans? This thread is entitled ***Burn Quality Hall of Fame**

Many Nero CD-DVD Speed error scans that look very "pretty" have been shown to contain bad sectors or errors on the scanned discs. Sometimes transfer rate tests and surface scans have revealed this. Shouldn't this thread have been called Nero CD-DVD Speed error scans Hall of Fame or something along those lines, rather than using "burn quality" in the name?

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insaneoctane · 23-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by socrates007

I just want to raise a question regarding the name of this thread. Is it really appropriate to call these Nero CD-DVD Speed error scans "burn quality" scans? This thread is entitled ***Burn Quality Hall of Fame**

Many Nero CD-DVD Speed error scans that look very "pretty" have been shown to contain bad sectors or errors on the scanned discs. Sometimes transfer rate tests and surface scans have revealed this. Shouldn't this thread have been called Nero CD-DVD Speed error scans Hall of Fame or something along those lines, rather than using "burn quality" in the name?

Socrates007,
Your point is valid...without a transfer test to fully prove these burns are not without error, it's not a perfect thread. That being said, I think the thread title is still appropriate because most of the scans found in the "post your media here" thread and elsewhere do not have accompanying transfer rate graphs or surface scans. Not that some don't post that info, or that it wouldn't be more informative, rather most people just don't do it. Even though a perfect CD error scan doesn't prove that it wouldn't have issues with other tests, we do put a lot faith in them...this is an extension of that- I just wanted to have the forum members help me collect the best-of-the-best graphs! Lastly, although theoretically possible, I challenge ANYBODY to show me a 99% (or 100%) scan quality scan that actually has unrecoverable errors on it!

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*eleewhm* · 23-01-2005

how can i miss this....

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*eleewhm* · 23-01-2005

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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SonnyUnlocker · 23-01-2005

Here's a really good burn on cheap media burned @8X

check this out

free4all · 23-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonnyUnlocker

Here's a really good burn on cheap media burned @8X

check this out

Well, there goes the neighborhood

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masotime · 23-01-2005

Waiting for what? LOL.... show your burn....
Or shall I link it for you?

http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showp...&postcount=172

Everyone notice the low PIF count....

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleewhm

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

*Spartane* · 23-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonnyUnlocker

Here's a really good burn on cheap media burned @8X

check this out

-WOW-

As Spartane seriously revises his opinion on optodisc OR8's

Private Idaho · 23-01-2005

I've seen better, but I'm quite happy with this - burned on the Fuji YUDEN T02 that Best Buy had on sale last week. I got the last one in my locall BB last Saturday.

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*Kenshin* · 23-01-2005

BenQ drives often give the highest scores (used as scan drives I mean.) Lite-On drives seem to enjoy less scores. SOHW-832S (and its clones like 851S and 812S) and SOHW-1633S (and its clones like 1653S and 1213S) report the least errors among Lite-On drives but they still get 97 score with media that otherwise have 99 score in BenQ DW1600-1620 (Pro) drives. Most Plextor users use Plextor drives only to scan PIE/PIF rates. LG users mostly do not scan at all because they can't. Same with NEC users.

Well, better to see a lot of 99's than 97 or nothing at all.

It's even worse because some reviews use only Lite-On drives, some others only Plextor drives, and quite many use none at all.

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*Wesociety* · 23-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin

It's even worse because some reviews use only Lite-On drives, some others only Plextor drives, and quite many use none at all.

That is why we use a LiteOn drive for PI/PIF scans AND a drive such as a NEC 3500A that can do 16X transfer rate tests on DVDR discs in our reviews.

This gives a better overall picture of burn quality/disc readability.

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