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BenQ / Philips Writer Discuss, BENQ DQ60 DVD-MULTI @release in japan at CD and DVD Writers forum; BENQ DQ60 start selling on 1st October in japan. http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0927/benq.htm http://www.benq.co.jp/pressrelease/050927_PR_DQ60.pdf http://www.benq.co.jp/www/front/Benq...nu=&RootId=143 DVD-Multi *New logo ====================================================== news from cdrinfo Tuesday, July 26, 2005 BenQ has received OEM orders for Super Multi DVD from TEAC, with shipments to begin this quarter, according to market sources. BenQ has had an OEM relationship

Old Posted: 27-09-2005
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BENQ DQ60 start selling on 1st October in japan.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2005/0927/benq.htm
http://www.benq.co.jp/pressrelease/050927_PR_DQ60.pdf
http://www.benq.co.jp/www/front/Benq...nu=&RootId=143



DVD-Multi *New logo



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news from cdrinfo
Tuesday, July 26, 2005




BenQ has received OEM orders for Super Multi DVD from TEAC, with shipments to begin this quarter, according to market sources.

BenQ has had an OEM relationship with TEAC in the past for producing CD-ROM drives, CD-RW burners and DVD Dual burners.

Schedulled to hit the market in September, the BenQ DQ60 super-multi drive features writing and reading in 3 DVD formats (DVD+/- and DVD-RAM) and CD format.

Specifications

Write speeds:
DVD+R/-R Double Layer: 8x Max/4x
DVD+R/RW: 16x Max/8x Max
DVD-R/RW: 16x Max/6x Max
DVD-RAM: 5x Max
CD-R/RW: 48x Max/24x Max

Read speeds:
DVD: 16x Max
CD: 48x Max
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Looks like a new design drive (see pictures) !!!
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new chipset, new design
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Design is almost the same as OEM BenQ 1640 (yes, it differes from retail Benq 1640).
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Design is almost the same as OEM BenQ 1640 (yes, it differes from retail Benq 1640).
hrm.......I believe the eject hole and light are in different places than the 1620 and 1640 OEM or Retail of both.
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Design is almost the same as OEM BenQ 1640 (yes, it differes from retail Benq 1640).
Check the location of the LED light and the eject hole. They are in different location than the DW1620 & DW1640. Bet it's a new design (if the pictures are correct)...
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why is it that all brands are presenting new drives with DVD-RAM support now?

if I'm correct dvd-ram was the first available dvd type (well, in the Asian region that is)
but in the US and especially in the EU DVD-/+ R is more popular and available
with the exception of some standalone recorders, dvd-ram is virtually none existent in Europe
why after about 3 years this sudden revival of dvd-ram?
isn't this a case of: too little too late?
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Its not non-existent, dvd-ram media can be bought from almost any optical media store. I use DVD-Ram in my Panasonic dvd recorder, its an incredibly flexible format.

I'm gonna have to get myself one of these!
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Its not non-existent, dvd-ram media can be bought from almost any optical media store. I use DVD-Ram in my Panasonic dvd recorder, its an incredibly flexible format.

I'm gonna have to get myself one of these!
ehh that is why I say virtually, and that is also why I mention standalone recorders

let me formulate it differently: Do you think that the format will become as popular (or even more so) as the dvd+/-r format is in Europe?

I personally think it's a bit late for that and I'm wondering why it took as long as it did.
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Of course it wont be as popular as dvd+/-r, its just an easy way for drive manufacturers to sell more drives. Its just a marketing gimmick.
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People are saying that this drive will be the same as the Teac DV-W516E (and the pictures do look similar, and the specs do look similar as well). Is there any confirmation on this?

And if this is true, then the DQ60 would be using a Panasonic/Matsushita chipset instead of the Philips Nexperia chipset. I guess they kinda have to because Nexperia was never designed for DVD-RAM. Anyone know if this is a permanent move or just a temporary move until DVD-RAM can be added to Nexperia? And what would this mean for the existing Nexperia features, like WOPC, SolidBurn, PI/PIF/jitter scanning, etc.? And if this is true, I wonder how burn quality will be affected by this non-Nexperia chipset.
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Totally no mention of Solidburn or QScan in the abovenamed pdf but Qsuite with Booktyping, Test Write & Tilt Control/Slide Cone are there too.

It has the same shortened length like the DW1640 (both 178mm) so it doesn't seem to fall too far from the old BenQ tree altho' it is a different beast.

BabelFish translation also says, rather cryptically -
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' BenQ original utility QSuite ' as enjoyed from new technology of record type DVD drive to the user, it is the progressive utility software which is prepared.
1. DVD-ROM conversion management (Booktype Management)
2. Disk test entry (Test Write)

* The part function of Qsuite cannot utilize with DQ60. At the firmware of 2005 October release schedule it can utilize all functions.
Whatever "all" means though... may just be the above 2 being enabled.

still only 5x DVDRAM, was hoping to see a 16x RAM burner soon.
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I read somewhere that the TEAC drive is going to be a BenQ OEM, not the other way around...

I guess this line from the cdrinfo article confirms this:
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BenQ has received OEM orders for Super Multi DVD from TEAC
In other words, BenQ are producing the drive for TEAC.
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In other words, BenQ are producing the drive for TEAC.
Yes, that's correct. I never said that Teac is producing BenQ's drives. All that I said is that the drives are going to be the same.

Supposedly, Teac helped BenQ design this drive and that the design is mostly Teac's and not BenQ's.
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Supposedly, Teac helped BenQ design this drive and that the design is mostly Teac's and not BenQ's.
Jepp, but the real TEAC had 2 LED

Anyone knows which chipset they use?
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Anyone knows which chipset they use?
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And if this is true, then the DQ60 would be using a Panasonic/Matsushita chipset instead of the Philips Nexperia chipset.
 
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Here is an image of the TEAC DV-W516E from the TEAC website. They seam to be identical.
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And here is the quite short media code list of the latest TEAC DV-W516E 1.0C firmware.
Code:
Media Code Speed Edit V 1.0.6.7 SE
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Firmware: TEAC    DV-W516E        050909
Bootcode: 
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Overall supported media types:  121
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DVD+R9  supported media types:    5
DVD+R   supported media types:   31
DVD+RW  supported media types:   25
DVD-R9  supported media types:    1
DVD-R   supported media types:   37
DVD-RW  supported media types:   22
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DVD+R9  supported media types:    5
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MKM      001-000 6x
MKM      003-000 8x
PRODISC  D01-000 6x
RICOHJPN D00-001 4x
RITEK    D01-001 4x

DVD+R   supported media types:   31
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CMC MAG  E01-000 8x
CMC MAG  F01-000 4x
CMC MAG  M01-000 16x
CMC MAG  R01-000 2.4x
DAXON    AZ1-001 4x
MAXELL   002-000 8x
MAXELL   003-000 16x
MBIPG101 R03-000 4x
MBIPG101 R04-001 8x
MBIPG101 R05-001 16x
MCC      001-000 2.4x
MCC      002-000 4x
MCC      003-000 8x
MCC      004-000 16x
OPTODISC OP1-001 2.4x
PHILIPS  C16-001 8x
PRODISC  R01-001 2.4x
PRODISC  R02-000 4x
PRODISC  R03-003 8x
PRODISC  R04-004 16x
RICOHJPN R00-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN R01-002 4x
RICOHJPN R02-003 8x
RICOHJPN R03-004 16x
RITEK    R03-001 8x
RITEK    R04-001 8x
TDK      003-000 16x
YUDEN000 T01-000 4x
YUDEN000 T01-001 4x
YUDEN000 T02-000 8x
YUDEN000 T03-000 16x

DVD+RW  supported media types:   25
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CMC MAG  W01-000 2.4x
CMC MAG  W02-000 4x
CMC MAG  W03-000 8x
DAXON    D42-000 4x
INFODISC A01-002 2.4x
INFODISC A10-001 4x
MBIPG101 W03-000 2.4x
MBIPG101 W04-000 2.4x
MCC      A01-000 2.4x
MKM      A02-000 4x
MKM      A03-000 
MKM      A03-000 8x
NANYA    DRW-000 4x
PHILIPS  010-001 2.4x
PHILIPS  041-000 4x
PHILIPS  RW8-000 8x
PRODISC  W01-002 2.4x
PRODISC  W02-000 4x
RICOHJPN W01-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN W11-001 4x
RICOHJPN W21-001 8x
RITEK    001-001 2.4x
RITEK    004-048 4x
RITEK    008-000 8x
SONY     S11-000 2.4x

DVD-R9  supported media types:    1
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MKM 01RD30      6x

DVD-R   supported media types:   37
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BeAll G80001    8x
CMC MAG. AE1    8x
CMC MAG. AF1    4x
DAXON008S       8x
DAXON016S       16x
FUJIFILM03      8x
GSC001          4x
GSC002          4x
GSC003          8x
INFODISC-R20    8x
LEADDATA S03    8x
LEADDATA01      4x
LGE08           8x
MBI 01RG40      16x
MBI 03RG30      8x
MBI 03RG40      8x
MCC 01RG20      4x
MCC 02RG20      8x
MCC 03RG20      16x
MXL RG02        4x
MXL RG03        8x
MXL RG04        16x
NANYA-JC001     4x
PRINCO          4x
ProdiscF01      8x
ProdiscS03      4x
RITEKG04        4x
RITEKG05        8x
SONY08D1        8x
TTG01           4x
TTG02           8x
TTH01           8x
TTH02           16x
TYG01           4x
TYG02           8x
TYG03           16x
UTJR001001      4x

DVD-RW  supported media types:   22
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CMCW02          2x
CMCW03          4x
CMCW04          6x
JVC/VictorT7    1x
JVC0VictorD7    4x
JVC1Victord7    6x
JVC_VictorW7    2x
MBI01RWG 20     4x
MCC 00RW11N9    1x
MCC 01RW11n9    2x
MCC 01RW4X      4x
MKM 01RW6X01    6x
OPTODISCW002    2x
Prodisc DW04    2x
Prodisc DW06    4x
RITEKW01        2x
RITEKW04        4x
RITEKW06        6x
TDK501saku]3    1x
TDK502sakuM3    2x
TDK601saku      4x
TDK701saku      6x
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Just confirmed with the local BenQ manager that we won't be seeing the DQ60 in SG, oh well. Hope you guys can get hold of one to post some feedback here, perhaps that lucky chap, yangxi, since he handles multiple brands (including Teacs).
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And if this is true, then the DQ60 would be using a Panasonic/Matsushita chipset instead of the Philips Nexperia chipset.

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Extra stupid question!

Where is SG? South Germany? South Georgia! LOL
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Marketing rules over consumer's best interests.
DVD-RAM has allways been quite popular in the fareast.
If european consumers don't favout the format - as Panasonic told me - is because they don't do any effort to sell it. Panasonic is selling in Europe just OEM, lots of 500 units minimum as I was told.
DVD-RAM was slower that other DVD formats because its safer (write/check) to guaranty integrity of information.
It can be seen by any computer as another HDD and used as such
It can be used 100 000 times, agaisnt 1000 for other formats (counts everytime TOC is updated?)
If used inside a cartridge, you don't touch the disc, so no grassy fingerprints and a longer lifespan
but
Its more expensive
and sales people want sales figures not consumer interest, if you are happy with minus or plus that's what matters to them...satisfaction its what you perceive as such not exactly top quality products usage.
Now they did clear the standard for 16x DVD-RAM and the format is in a better position to compete with +/-R(W) 5(9).
From the beginning RAM could do 9.4 GB (expensive stuff...)
With new formats coming around the corner, its really strange to see a new force for the RAM format, but this was in the news since one year ago at least~
and we will see new models
Lets hope we can get them all over, not just like Plextor or Teac that only sell in the fareast.
Not like Panasonic that is now making the push but doesn't seem to have the will to sell allover
For me, I would like to get a drive with catridge support even at 16 x
No matter thr arrival of HD-DVD or Blu-ray
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Where is SG? South Germany? South Georgia! LOL
LOL! It's a standard country code...

.sg == Singapore
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Extra stupid question!

Where is SG? South Germany? South Georgia! LOL
SG= Singapore



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Just confirmed with the local BenQ manager that we won't be seeing the DQ60 in SG, oh well. Hope you guys can get hold of one to post some feedback here, perhaps that lucky chap, yangxi, since he handles multiple brands (including Teacs).
..
But branded 16x +r/-r ,8x +rw or high grade media(taiyo) not sell in Malaysia.

Cheap Fake media quite popular here.
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