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Since I got an LG GSA-H58N drive today I'll be testing it out a bit. My drive is bulk version shipped with fw 1.01, manufactured October 2007.
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Verbatim MCC03RG20 @ 20X, New pacakge, made by Prodisc.

Eww, this doesn't look good.
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Verbatim MCC004 @ 20X, new pacakge, made in India.

This looks better, still not good though.
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Miflop TYG03 @ 20X.

Nasty PIF spikes near the end
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TDK YUDEN000T03 @ 20X.

Decent, but other writers do it better.
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Unbranded TTH02 @18X, made by CMC.

No comments needed really.
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What kind of burn times are you getting OC-Freak?
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Emtec CMC.MAG.M01 @ 16X.

Not perfect either.
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What kind of burn times are you getting OC-Freak?
Added write graphs to the two TY discs, writing times are +/- a few seconds off those for 20X speed.
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Imation MBI.PG101.R05 @16X.

I've still seen better with this media, but the result is acceptable.
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So far this seems to be a drive NOT to buy.
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So far this seems to be a drive NOT to buy.
The scans look very much like the H-55N's with the first firmware. With FW up-dates the drive has improved but still isn't up there with the best 20X burners.
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Sony16D1 @18X

And the horrors continue. Other drives can make perfect burns on this media at 18X
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OC-Freak is this drive for a review? A sample?
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Any chance for a transfer rate test on a nec drive?
I would like to see if the drive would slow down near the end of the disc.
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OC-Freak is this drive for a review? A sample?
Nope, I bought it myself.
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The scans look very much like the H-55N's with the first firmware. With FW up-dates the drive has improved but still isn't up there with the best 20X burners.
Sorry, but I don´t think so, haven´t you looked at some of Burnsama´s H55N´s scans (esp. since newest firmware version) ?? -> Excellent jitter values with great quality scores mostly in the 95 - 98 range and it seemed to even gain further from lower burning speeds (4x, 6x, 8x)... or did i misread something ??
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Sorry, but I don´t think so, haven´t you looked at some of Burnsama´s H55N´s scans (esp. since newest firmware version) ?? -> Excellent jitter values with great quality scores mostly in the 95 - 98 range and it seemed to even gain further from lower burning speeds (4x, 6x, 8x)... or did i misread something ??
My LG burns good at 12x or lower.... but why sell it as an 20x writer then? I can understand media variances etc etc, but this drive just doesn't handle 20x writing any good at all.
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My LG burns good at 12x or lower.... but why sell it as an 20x writer then? I can understand media variances etc etc, but this drive just doesn't handle 20x writing any good at all.
I think that´s the same point some people made about the pio 112D - and nevertheless the Pio 112D is still regarded as one of the top 5 drives.
Personally I (as many others) prefer burning quality over speed, and the time I might gain with burning at 16x, 18x or 20x isn´t that significant to sacrifice readability of the burned media in the long term.
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My LG burns good at 12x or lower.... but why sell it as an 20x writer then? I can understand media variances etc etc, but this drive just doesn't handle 20x writing any good at all.
It's just remember H55N with this first firmwares. The results using speeds above 16x are awful.

By the way the specs of H55* and H58* are almost identical. Anyone notice some difference ?
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what are the specs for H58? and why are they back to old numbering?
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what are the specs for H58? and why are they back to old numbering?
Specs here: http://de.lge.com/products/model/det...gsah58n.jhtml#
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This drive like a H55N 1.01 and 1.02
it should be better couple F.W update
Not in US this drive
and is it Panasonic chip ???
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In those german specifications I don't see 12x DVD-R write speed. So ... it should be Renesas chipset, but .... If there are some mistakes in specifications .... hmmmm.
I thought H5x is Panasonic serie.
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I bought LG H58N a week ago, and I've noticed very slow read speeds. Anyone else had this problem? It's connected to 80 wire IDE cable, so thats not a problem? Oh, and are there any firmware updates? I cant find any...
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