Old 02-06-2002   #1
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Poland
Posts: 1
LG GCE-8320B (32x10x40) (z-cav) overclocked to LG GCE-8400B (40x12x40) (p-cav)

I have did a own test, My test CDRW drive is LG (HLDS) GCE-8320B (orginally flashed with 1.02 firmware).
First I have updated to http://www.lge.co.kr/library/opendat...E-8320B104.zip
Just 1.04 firmware of same model, so I wanted something more from it.
So i started looking for testd overclocks but found nothing interesting,
then I decided to try flash it with LG GCE-8400B (40x12x40) (p-cav) firmware http://www.lge.co.kr/library/opendat...E-8400B101.zip
Because of flashing utility Je4.exe for LG GCE-8400B don't wanted to flash it, so I have used Je3.exe (come from 8320B firmware) and with je4lg401.hex
firmware file, flashing was sucessful. First i checked it at bios, it was like real 40x , great , so then time for WinXP,
system detected it correctly LG GCE-8400B , then checked info at CloneCD, Nero, Nero CD Speed, it was detected exactly like
I dreamed. First I have checked for reading errors/speed, no errors and all read test was 100% good, time for burn something, i don't had any 40x supported blank
CD so i was unable to do 40x tests , today is sunday and no shops close to me, so decided to burn on my current blank CD's that support
only 24x, however i noticed a that it burned at p-cav mode, so seems like it works as it should, will do 40x tests tomorrow, however
seems now that it will work without difference to original 40x , started thinking now how many burners can be upgraded by new model firmware. LiteOn was no exeption !!
GolemPL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2002   #2
Retired Senior Admin
 
OC-Freak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Cdfreaks review lab - Norway
Posts: 5,644
Nice one! Just let information like this coming!!

But I move this one to General Hardware forum, which is the place for it since it's not Lite-On related....
__________________
I'm a real freak in many aspects!
OC-Freak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2002   #3
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 14
Very nice indeed!

I Think i'm gonna try the same thing tonight
Confuser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2002   #4
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 7
come on, somebody should test this! :P But I don't want to mess it up if it doesnt work..

Cuz I just a few week ago bought a LG 32x burner and it should be cool if it could flash it to 40x

But how much can this f*ck your burner? I mean, if something goes wrong, what can i do?

And can i flash from WinXP directly with these flash programs, or do i need to go into dos and do it?
Mr-Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #5
CD Freaks Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 267
Yes, I just confirmed it, it worked here too! The drive works great, it's a pity I don't have any 40x media... (Actually, I don't even have 32x media in my country, I always burn 32x on 24x Prodiscs/Princos.)

But it's burning @ P-CAV, 32x on my main media and 24x on my old Ritek 16x media that was C2-full when I had the old firmware and now burns fine!

(A few hours later...)

Something really odd just happened!
I was burning @ 40x on 16x SKC media on Nero CD-Speed, and the speed went way past 42x, then suddenly fell down to 32x!!
I got a 32.41x average burn speed anyway...
If anyone wants a screenshot on CD-speed on this media, just PM me. (This forum has PM, doesn't it?)
Fallen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #6
CD Freaks Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 38
Excellent work there, I'm gonna give this a try in the morning, but there is 1 thing that is bugging me.. The 40x models should (http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/index...&page=Features) have Mt.Rainier support, but only in the models that have a 2mb buffer.

Since the 8320 has a 8mb buffer do we have any idea if it'll support this? Not even sure what s/w you can use to support Mt.Rainier but it's a point to look into
Down&Out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #7
MyCE Member
 
BetrayerX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 136
IT WOOOOORKS!!!
THNX A LOT!!!
__________________
Don't bash foolish people......thanks to them, you look kinda smart.

I'm not evil.....what you see is just a reflection of all that sorrounds me.

Are you wise enough to admit your own ignorance?
BetrayerX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #8
MyCE Member
 
BetrayerX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 136
I recorded at 40X
Using Nero 5.5.8.2 and ssome 32X certified Imation Media
got a pic.....how do I post it?
Thnx and please reply as soon as possible.
__________________
Don't bash foolish people......thanks to them, you look kinda smart.

I'm not evil.....what you see is just a reflection of all that sorrounds me.

Are you wise enough to admit your own ignorance?
BetrayerX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #9
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 7
Could someone tell me all the steps, about how to flash the firmware?

1. Flash from XP or from a bootable floppy?

2. Do i need to restart after flashing with the first (Je3lg409.hex) before continueing with (JE4LG401.HEX)?

3. Do i need to specify the port? (master,slave,sec. master, sec. slave)

4. If something goes wrong how can i fix it?

5. If I notice any problems after I've flashed the drive, can I "go back" ex. by flashing with the real LG 32x firmware, so it will be a normal 32x burner again?

Thanks to thoes who might answer these questions
Mr-Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #10
CD Freaks Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 38
Think I've only got a partial success here. The drive seems 100% more picky about CD media now. The discs I am currently using are White Label and rated at 2x-32x, yet the with the drive as a 40x it refuses to burn over 24x in Nero CD speed.

While with it as a 32x it starts at 24x and picks up to 32x in the last 20mins or so of the disc

So it would seem that with the media I use, I'm better off with it as a 32x drive (I've tried the Hide Media option of Clone, but this makes no difference BTW)

Oh, and for Mr.Shadow

1. I done it from a '98 bootable floppy with the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat deleted so you get a clean OS

2. I went straight for the 40x Firmware. There seems very little point in writing the 32x updated firmware, as it gets deleted when you re-flash

3. Nope, it *should* detect it

4. Use the flash program specifying the master/slave port its plugged in on, I've heard that can bring a dead drive back to life

5. Dunno, I think I'm just about to find this 1 out *edit* Yes you can, but you've got to use the j34 program and the je3 (83220) hex

Last edited by Down&Out; 04-06-2002 at 14:07.
Down&Out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #11
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 7
thanks for that reply.... now i just have to decide what to do..

i think i'll wait for your action about to re-flash it backward
Mr-Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #12
CD Freaks Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 38
Right, reflashed it back, and it's all back to normal. Average speed on the White Label discs is now 26.01x with 32x being reached at about 41mins. Is there a way to get these LG drives to ignore CDR media?? Cos I'd really like a free upgrade hehe
Down&Out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #13
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 7
Why you want them to ignore CDR media?

*me lost*
Mr-Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #14
CD Freaks Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 38
Hmm, maybe I phrased that slightly badly. Basically, I know that this media works OK at 32x, I'm guessing that they just don't like P-cav. So I'm looking for a way to override the settings that say "just burn at 24x"

I know the Lite-On guys can do it, but is there a software solution that lets you write faster than their suggested speed?
Down&Out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #15
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 7
now i understand

Don't know of any software tho that can do something like that
Mr-Shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #16
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 1
Hi,

I have a LG GCE-8240B (x24 x10 x40) with firmware 1.07 (original) and I would like to know if somebody knows if it is possible to convert it to LG GCE-8320B.

How?

Thank you,

Pezz500
Pezz500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #17
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 14
Just 'flash' your LG GCE-8240B with the firmware from the GCE-8320B (version 1.04) .
That's my first guess, I've done the same with my GCE-8320B (with the firmware from the GCE-8400B).
Note that i'm not 100% sure, because I don't own a GCE-8240B!
Confuser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2002   #18
CD Freaks Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 275
Quote:
Originally posted by Fallen
>snip<
Something really odd just happened!
I was burning @ 40x on 16x SKC media on Nero CD-Speed, and the speed went way past 42x, then suddenly fell down to 32x!!
I got a 32.41x average burn speed anyway...
If anyone wants a screenshot on CD-speed on this media, just PM me. (This forum has PM, doesn't it?)
Had the same myself using 32x media. Got the two graphs if anybody wants them CD-RW as 320B and 400B; only 1Kb each.

E-mail drteeth007@hotmail.com, subject CDRW FLASH (in capitals please as get loads of spam).
DrTeeth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #19
CD Freaks Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: 127.0.0.1
Posts: 76
Can anyone test their 32x overclocked to 40x, then burn @ 40x? Then, use Nero CDSpeed->Extra->Scan Disc or CD Quality->Run a test (surface scan) and see if it returns any error.

In the original 40x, I think it has built in quality check as it burns. Look @ the review from CDRLabs, in one of the tests, Ian chose 40x to burn on a bad CMC disc, like in 40 minutes, there was a dip in speed.
__________________
Opinions can't be wrong.
Raz0rX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #20
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 14
Got the same 'problem'
I'm using Maxell 32x, it seems like the writer becomes more picky about cd media, like Down&Out mentioned.
Confuser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #21
CD Freaks Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 40
i try to update my gce 8160b but flashing bad result

anyone know if possible to upgrade this drive?

anyone know where i can get firmware for 24x not in lge format but in hex??

thanks
Maninabox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #22
New on Forum
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4
has anyone got their 24x Lg cd-rw to 32x? I was looking around for all the firmware that I need to update mine but I cant find anything on LG's website. where can i find a download list for firmware.
instanoodles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #23
MyCE Member
 
BetrayerX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 136
I succesfully recorded a CD, an Imation certified 32X at 40X
However I did use only 373MB of it, yet no errors were made by the burner. Everything ran just fine!!

email me to betrayerzero@netscape.net for an Image of CD SPEED SCAN.
__________________
Don't bash foolish people......thanks to them, you look kinda smart.

I'm not evil.....what you see is just a reflection of all that sorrounds me.

Are you wise enough to admit your own ignorance?
BetrayerX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #24
CD Freaks Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: 127.0.0.1
Posts: 76
OK, it is possible that the 40x firmware isn't tweaked yet or the firmware didn't store much information about the ATIP of CD media.

Is it possible to use Nero to create a 700mb full data CD using Disc@Once? Also, let me know the exact time needed to burn.
__________________
Opinions can't be wrong.
Raz0rX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2002   #25
CD Freaks Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 267
@Pezz500, Maninabox: It's definitely impossible to flash 16->24 or 24-> 32 because the 24 uses an Oak chipset while the 16, 32 and 40 use a Mediatek one.
16 - > 32 is also definitely impossible because the chipset on the 16 is capable of max 20x writing.
Fallen is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HELP! LG GCE-8400b to GCE-8480b ROBERTSD General Hardware Forum 2 04-11-2002 10:54
Does a GCE-8320B overclocked to GCE-8400B WRITE IN P-CAV??? Im not sure... tonilope General Hardware Forum 4 31-07-2002 00:23
Lg Gce 8320b pallys General Hardware Forum 3 24-07-2002 14:41
LG GCE-8240B to LG GCE-8320B Gosu General Hardware Forum 0 19-07-2002 20:03
Lg (hlds) Gce-8320b = Hl-dt-st Gce 8320b gemarti21 General Hardware Forum 1 15-06-2002 12:02


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:35.
Top