LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!!

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LG Writer Discuss, LG DVD GSA-4166B- Maybe the first LG drive Support LightScribe !!! at CD and DVD Writers forum; ala42, it will be great if you could provide us a MCSE supporting 4166 fw 1.01 ! We really need a speedpatched fw Quote:

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Posted: 23-12-2005
ala42, it will be great if you could provide us a MCSE supporting 4166 fw 1.01 ! We really need a speedpatched fw

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Here is the media code list of the GSA-4166B 1.01 firmware, which is identical to the GWA-4164B 1.I0 table. Also the bootcode of both firmwares is identical.
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OK, now I'm leaving UDMA 2 for UDMA 4 but my troubles are here again : the burst read is still poor... What can I do ?
OK, it works with a data CD, so there's no problem, only a firmware speed limitation on Video DVD as usual...
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There's a bug in Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.10 when you launch "all tests" on a CD-R, you get a 27Mbps burst rate. When you're doing only the burst rate test, you get a much higher value : 34Mbps...
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Memorex brand RICOHJPN R03
burned @ 16x

UDMA 4 here.
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1/ Memorex DVD+RW 4X burned on the LG 4166 fw1.01 :



Scan on BenQ 1620 :



Ok for a Ricoh DVD+RW 4X.

2/ A Memorex DVD-R 8X (RitekG05 !!!) burned @8X :



Scan on BenQ 1620 :



I throw it away... what a crap ! LOL ! (Not mine...)

3/ A YudenT01 (Maxell in jewelcase) DVD+R 4X supported on the LG @4X only !



Scan on BenQ 1620 :
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An HP Lightscribe 52x CDR (MCC)
burned @ 48x
firmware ver. 1.01
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Does LS work ok with this drive or have problems like BenQ,HP,LiteOn etc...
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It worked fine for me on this drive and the rebadge BenQ 1625 I had for a short time...
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Datawrite DVD+R 8X @ 8X :


Scan on my BenQ 1620 :


Speed test on LG :


Burst rate only : (?)
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You know what ? The LG IDE cable in the box is NOT UDMA 4 compliant ! It's unbelievable ! My burner is seen only at UDMA 2 with it.
Is the cable 40 or 80?
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So far this drive has failed to write to CMCMAG E01, CMCMAG AE1 and TYG02 for me. I get "Error! No Seek Complete (030200)"
It has written other media without these errors.
Firmware 1.01

Is this the LG that has the Panasonic chip instead of the Reneasas chip?

I am not much impressed so far.

I picked it up mainly for the Lightscribe and RAM capabilities but will not tolerate a drive that has issues with mainstream MIDs.
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Is this the LG that has the Panasonic chip instead of the Reneasas chip?
The 4164/66 use a Panasonic chipset.
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Hmmm, strange that! No wonder the firmware is few and far between...
Makes me wonder if Lightscribe capability is not "chip dependent" then?
BenQ, Liteon and LG all have Lightscribe drives with three different chipsets.

You think LG contracted this out instead of doing an inhouse drive?
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What's the 4165/4167 chipset ?

My last Datawrite DVD+R 8X (true MCC003) @8X :
(scanned with my BenQ 1620)
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It seems that all drives using the Panasonic chipset have writing quality troubles
It's too bad LG couldn't get Lightscribe working with a Renasas chipset.

Where are these 4166 drives made?
Can someone post a drive sticker pic?
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Made in china.

If you know a little french or want to see such pics :
http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/...t-707034-1.htm

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PRODUCT OF CHINA

Drives from october 2005 use 1.00 firmware
Drives from november seems to come with v1.01.
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Posted: 24-12-2005
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Made in china.

If you know a little french or want to see such pics :
http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/...t-707034-1.htm

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PRODUCT OF CHINA

Drives from october 2005 use 1.00 firmware
Drives from november seems to come with v1.01.
Does the hardware(PCB) has any different between October & November drives?
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Dunno. Moreover the HP 840 (LG 4166 rebadged) tested here ( http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=15764 ) is marked from september :
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A LG4166 with 1.01 firmware :
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Another 4166 (black bulk) from november with 1.01 firmware :



White drives are white inside.
Black drives are black inside.
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Verbatim brand MCC004
burned @ 16x in 5:53
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What's the 4165/4167 chipset ?
They use the Renesas (Hitachi) chipset, same as the 4163. The 4167 is basically a 4165 drive.

The 4161/4162/4164/4166 use the Panax MN103 chipset, as do some earlier models 4083 and great deal of the OEM drives used in standalone DVD Recorders and DVD/VCR combos from LG, Sanyo, etc.

We've done some analysis of the 4166 1.00 and 1.01 firmware and they look to be patchable. Need to understand the flashing process.

Brother Vlad
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They use the Renesas (Hitachi) chipset, same as the 4163. The 4167 is basically a 4165 drive.

The 4161/4162/4164/4166 use the Panax MN103 chipset, as do some earlier models 4083 and great deal of the OEM drives used in standalone DVD Recorders and DVD/VCR combos from LG, Sanyo, etc.

We've done some analysis of the 4166 1.00 and 1.01 firmware and they look to be patchable. Need to understand the flashing process.

Brother Vlad
Thanks for the info
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Is there a hacked firmware for this drive to change the Booktype setting in DVD+RW media?
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Ricoh brand RICOHJPN R03
burned @ 16x
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