Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review

*Kenshin* · 27-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by willno2

How about on cheap, low quality media? Can it write as good as NEC??

NEC DVD writers do not make low-quality media into high-quality media. GIGO.

*Kenshin* · 31-01-2005

What's wrong in this thread??

jayjaydjay · 01-02-2005

Hi everybody, does the 4163b supports Bitsetting for SL +R and -R????, or only for DL?.
Many Thnxs!

Jay

21021 · 01-02-2005

It supports bitsetting for SL and DL +R.

Bitsetting for -R is impossible right now.

Revhead · 01-02-2005

I bought one of these drives for a friend the other day but hooked it up to upgrade the firmware and burnt a couple of discs just to make sure everything was working okay.
I've got to say the burns were as good if not slightly better than my NEC 3500 _ and that was using CMC MAG E01!
No hesitation in recommending this drive.
The review reckons the black tray delivers better quality burns _ the one I bought happens to be black.
One question?
The PC I placed this drive in is quite old. HP Slot 1 400Mhz Celery, 256M and XP Pro SP2.
Setting the write speed to MAX in CloneDVD achieves a write speed of 4x which burned successfully.
If I force the speed to 8X am I likley to encounter buffer underuns and bad burns as a result?

*Kenshin* · 02-02-2005

Try simulation on Nero Burning Rom. It does not actually write to the disk. Or have an 8x DVD+RW media. Or test the "Cache" speed in Nero Burning Rom's preferences menu. Or run Create Data Disc tests in Nero CD-DVD Speed 3.61. There are lots of other ways to find out whether your PC can support 8x to 16x DVD burning.

MacBurglar · 11-02-2005

Hi, I hope someone here can help me. Although it doesn't say it uses Mac OSX as an OS, will my computer recognize the LG GSA-4163B?

I have Toast 6. I know some drives can be seen and used by Mac, although they don't list it as a recognized OS. Thanks for your help

*Kenshin* · 15-02-2005

I don't see why it shouldn't. After all, Apple was one of the very first companies that included DVD writers standard into their personal computers. Don't Apple computers also use optical drives with IDE or SCSI interfaces?

surg · 21-02-2005

@Kenshin
For shure the LG will work as a reader but I don't think support will be implemented in burning software.

*Kenshin* · 21-02-2005

Latest Apple computers sold in South Korea have only 8x DVD writers.

DimeDeviL · 02-03-2005

Yesterday my friend said that he got a GSA-4163B for $67

Is this drive worth to buy, or should I get an Asus, BenQ, LiteOn or NEC for me. I got at least $100 on budget

thanks

*Kenshin* · 02-03-2005

Depends on your needs.

DimeDeviL · 02-03-2005

well, I surely do not need DVD RAM... I need quality and compatibility and also speed

Revhead · 02-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by DimeDeviL

Is this drive worth to buy

Save your pennies and get the LG. Good price and good drive that produces high quality burns.
The fact it does DVD-RAM is neither here nor there.
MTC

*isadore2* · 02-03-2005

DimeDevil,

DVD-RAM media speed is going to be much faster this year.

DVD-RAM is the most accurate and stable, has the longest lifetime, and is the most capable DVD media - you can rewrite it up to 100,000 times, and it has error checking.

Here is an informative link:http://www.ramprg.com/en/a/main.htm

As far as quality and speed goes, they don't always go together, but I believe the 4163B has both.

I think the 4163B is the best all-around drive available.

Just my opinion.

Taroth · 02-03-2005

If you are like me and have space for only 1 optical drive then go for the LG, it is currently about the best all round drive available.

If you have room get several drives: The Pioneer 108 will write cheap crappy media better than any other and will overspeed some media, the LG GSA-4163 will write decent media quicker than any other with superb quality and supports DVD-RAM and is excellent at DAE and can backup protected audio/game discs, the BenQ DW1620 is an excellent writer, will overspeed lots of media and has error scanning capabilities.

It all really depends on what you need from your drive!

DimeDeviL · 03-03-2005

Like I said before, I dont need DVD RAM because it's hard to find here. My main reason is to backup all of my data, backup all of my DVD9 movies and storing my DV. I rarely use the + and -RW too, because mainly, I burn all my data on +Rs (love those bitsetting thingy)

DimeDeviL · 03-03-2005

Edit ( cant find the edit button for my previous thread )

The same guy told me that I could get philips 1640 with the same price. So guys, based on my needs, which one should I buy? LG or Philips? Philips = BenQ right?

Taroth · 03-03-2005

I haven't seen any reviews for the 1640 yet so I couldn't say how good it is. Maybe try the Philips/BenQ forum and see if anyone has tried one.

**Jan70** · 03-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taroth

I haven't seen any reviews for the 1640 yet so I couldn't say how good it is. Maybe try the Philips/BenQ forum and see if anyone has tried one.

We reviewed the Philips DVDR1640P in September 2004, and can be found here: http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/152

Discussion thread: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=108539

swinster · 05-03-2005

Even though this is a two sheep burner, it fails on the SafeDisk 2.9 and 3 Sheep tests.

Are there any ways that the high SafeDisk protected CD's can be backed up with this recorder or is that a complete no no? I this is true then would the only way to achive such a task would be to get another recorder?

uf0 · 05-03-2005

I also want to get this drive. The main reason is that I want to replace my Pioneer DVR-109 which has a problem recognizing my TDK 2x media. It only burns them at 1x.

So I'm afraid that later if I buy other disks it could have the same problem with them. I heard a lot of good stuff about Pioneer, but at this point I want a drive that will be reliable and about 8x. I'll finish these 2x DVD-R blanks, and going to buy faster ones from now on. I don't want to pay for 8x media and be only able to burn them at 1x or so.

Are other drives LG GSA-4163B in particular, have this recognition problem? In other words is this a common problem across all DVD burners or just has to do with media?

*isadore2* · 07-03-2005

ufo, (nice handle)

I don't believe that you will have a problem with the LG 4163B.

I really like mine.

ccrider · 13-03-2005

Hey folks,

I'm sorry to say that I got a lot of problems using Ricoh-DL media! Burnt 3 frisbees in a row with Nero 6.6.0.6, which always started burning but could not finish even one of them. The progress bar stopped between 0% to 33% and then ... nothing else happened.
Had to stop Nero in the task manager.

jaydee91 · 14-03-2005

I'm sure burning those up is expensive!

31-01-2005	#27
Kenshin MyCE Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Near Seoul, South Korea Posts: 13,160	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review What's wrong in this thread?? __________________ Kill Confucius

01-02-2005	#28
jayjaydjay New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tranceland Posts: 1	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Hi everybody, does the 4163b supports Bitsetting for SL +R and -R????, or only for DL?. Many Thnxs! Jay

01-02-2005	#29
21021 CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 47	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review It supports bitsetting for SL and DL +R. Bitsetting for -R is impossible right now.

01-02-2005	#30
Revhead CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sydnoir Posts: 287	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review I bought one of these drives for a friend the other day but hooked it up to upgrade the firmware and burnt a couple of discs just to make sure everything was working okay. I've got to say the burns were as good if not slightly better than my NEC 3500 _ and that was using CMC MAG E01! No hesitation in recommending this drive. The review reckons the black tray delivers better quality burns _ the one I bought happens to be black. One question? The PC I placed this drive in is quite old. HP Slot 1 400Mhz Celery, 256M and XP Pro SP2. Setting the write speed to MAX in CloneDVD achieves a write speed of 4x which burned successfully. If I force the speed to 8X am I likley to encounter buffer underuns and bad burns as a result? __________________ Thanks, Revhead Barton XP-M 2500+@2.5Ghz, KX18D Pro II, 2x512 Kingmax Hardcore PC4000, Thermaltake Silent Boost 90mm, Antec True Blue 480w, 2x80G SATA Hitachi 8m RAID, GF4MX420 (not a gamer) NEC DVD-RW 3500AG (Liggy's 2.1B) LG DVD-RW GSA-H10A (JL04) LITEONs DVD-RW SOHW-832S (451s@832s CG4E/W READ SPEED + AUTOBITSET) DVD-ROM XJ-HD166S (DS1E) XP Pro SP2

02-02-2005	#31
Kenshin MyCE Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Near Seoul, South Korea Posts: 13,160	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Try simulation on Nero Burning Rom. It does not actually write to the disk. Or have an 8x DVD+RW media. Or test the "Cache" speed in Nero Burning Rom's preferences menu. Or run Create Data Disc tests in Nero CD-DVD Speed 3.61. There are lots of other ways to find out whether your PC can support 8x to 16x DVD burning. __________________ Kill Confucius

11-02-2005	#32
MacBurglar New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Hi, I hope someone here can help me. Although it doesn't say it uses Mac OSX as an OS, will my computer recognize the LG GSA-4163B? I have Toast 6. I know some drives can be seen and used by Mac, although they don't list it as a recognized OS. Thanks for your help

15-02-2005	#33
Kenshin MyCE Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Near Seoul, South Korea Posts: 13,160	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review I don't see why it shouldn't. After all, Apple was one of the very first companies that included DVD writers standard into their personal computers. Don't Apple computers also use optical drives with IDE or SCSI interfaces? __________________ Kill Confucius

21-02-2005	#34
surg CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 330	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review @Kenshin For shure the LG will work as a reader but I don't think support will be implemented in burning software.

02-03-2005	#36
DimeDeviL CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pondok Indah sonoan dikit Posts: 396	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Yesterday my friend said that he got a GSA-4163B for $67 Is this drive worth to buy, or should I get an Asus, BenQ, LiteOn or NEC for me. I got at least $100 on budget thanks __________________ I'm A Newbie ^^ .. sort of.. I have some Asus firmware Here MY Specs: DFI NF3UTD 250GB Venice 3000+@2600 1.47 Asus CRW 5232AS, JLMS LTD-166s, NEC ND 1100A @ ND 1300A, Philips DVD8631@BenQ 1620 B7W9, Sony DRU 810a@BenQ 1640 BSLB, Sony DW-G120A@LiteOn 165P6S MS0R GSkill 2x512Mb PC3200 Hynix

02-03-2005	#40
isadore2 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 777	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review DimeDevil, DVD-RAM media speed is going to be much faster this year. DVD-RAM is the most accurate and stable, has the longest lifetime, and is the most capable DVD media - you can rewrite it up to 100,000 times, and it has error checking. Here is an informative link:http://www.ramprg.com/en/a/main.htm As far as quality and speed goes, they don't always go together, but I believe the 4163B has both. I think the 4163B is the best all-around drive available. Just my opinion.

02-03-2005	#41
Taroth CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 278	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review If you are like me and have space for only 1 optical drive then go for the LG, it is currently about the best all round drive available. If you have room get several drives: The Pioneer 108 will write cheap crappy media better than any other and will overspeed some media, the LG GSA-4163 will write decent media quicker than any other with superb quality and supports DVD-RAM and is excellent at DAE and can backup protected audio/game discs, the BenQ DW1620 is an excellent writer, will overspeed lots of media and has error scanning capabilities. It all really depends on what you need from your drive!

03-03-2005	#42
DimeDeviL CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pondok Indah sonoan dikit Posts: 396	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Like I said before, I dont need DVD RAM because it's hard to find here. My main reason is to backup all of my data, backup all of my DVD9 movies and storing my DV. I rarely use the + and -RW too, because mainly, I burn all my data on +Rs (love those bitsetting thingy) __________________ I'm A Newbie ^^ .. sort of.. I have some Asus firmware Here MY Specs: DFI NF3UTD 250GB Venice 3000+@2600 1.47 Asus CRW 5232AS, JLMS LTD-166s, NEC ND 1100A @ ND 1300A, Philips DVD8631@BenQ 1620 B7W9, Sony DRU 810a@BenQ 1640 BSLB, Sony DW-G120A@LiteOn 165P6S MS0R GSkill 2x512Mb PC3200 Hynix

05-03-2005	#46
swinster CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 45	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Even though this is a two sheep burner, it fails on the SafeDisk 2.9 and 3 Sheep tests. Are there any ways that the high SafeDisk protected CD's can be backed up with this recorder or is that a complete no no? I this is true then would the only way to achive such a task would be to get another recorder?

05-03-2005	#47
uf0 New on Forum Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review I also want to get this drive. The main reason is that I want to replace my Pioneer DVR-109 which has a problem recognizing my TDK 2x media. It only burns them at 1x. So I'm afraid that later if I buy other disks it could have the same problem with them. I heard a lot of good stuff about Pioneer, but at this point I want a drive that will be reliable and about 8x. I'll finish these 2x DVD-R blanks, and going to buy faster ones from now on. I don't want to pay for 8x media and be only able to burn them at 1x or so. Are other drives LG GSA-4163B in particular, have this recognition problem? In other words is this a common problem across all DVD burners or just has to do with media?

07-03-2005	#48
isadore2 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 777	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review ufo, (nice handle) I don't believe that you will have a problem with the LG 4163B. I really like mine.

13-03-2005	#49
ccrider New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review Hey folks, I'm sorry to say that I got a lot of problems using Ricoh-DL media! Burnt 3 frisbees in a row with Nero 6.6.0.6, which always started burning but could not finish even one of them. The progress bar stopped between 0% to 33% and then ... nothing else happened. Had to stop Nero in the task manager.

14-03-2005	#50
jaydee91 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 114	Re: Cdfreaks presents LG GSA-4163B review I'm sure burning those up is expensive!

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