Any aware of this new model, LG GSA-E10L

ziaudeen · 06-06-2006

I just went to the IT MALL, and i could not find the 2166-D, but the Sales person directed me to this model, GSA-E10L,and i was not sure about this model, but he was right when he said that this model is not even on the LG Website of Malaysia, anyone here have used the LG GSA - E10L, its still new so i just came back. I have not found the 2166-D. But the specifications for the E10L where a little more superior to the lay man like me where in buyinng DVD Writers, I'm still a virgin that field.

Please help, thanking you in advanced, what do you know about this model.

*PumaUK* · 06-06-2006

its a new model

*karangguni* · 06-06-2006

I've heard someone mention the model number before, but without any details. I am guessing that this drive is the external version of the H10N. From what the guy in the shop told you, does this drive have 12x DVD-RAM support? I ask because that is one feature that makes the H10N distinct from most of LG's other models.

relgin · 07-06-2006

Yes it is a new drive. It is not even on LG's WEB site yet.

I just picked up a LG GSA-H10L which is an internal drive. the GSA-E10L is the external version of the H10L. They both have LightScribe and have a DVD-RAM speed of 12X. I think the H10N has all the same specs minus the LightScribe feature.

Is it normal for LG to release new drives in the stores and not have any information on there WEB site.

Rich

ziaudeen · 07-06-2006

Once you mess with the Region Code, that will destroy the Warranty of the product, right?

Last edited by ziaudeen; 07-06-2006 at 06:01.

ziaudeen · 07-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by relgin1

Yes it is a new drive. It is not even on LG's WEB site yet.
I just picked up a LG GSA-H10L which is an internal drive. the GSA-E10L is the external version of the H10L. They both have LightScribe and have a DVD-RAM speed of 12X.
Rich

I think this is the should be the one, how do you find this model, do you like it, how is the burning, and have you tried the lightscribing on the cd. I heard you need get a special cd for doing the burning.

The main question is that I am going to buy this E10L today or should just keep on looking for 2166-D

ziaudeen · 07-06-2006

The Verdict: Should I buy the Writer or Just get 2164-d? Price wises it only 30dollars differrence E10L is 350rm and 2164-d is 320rm

*Kenshin* · 07-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziaudeen

The Verdict: Should I buy the Writer or Just get 2164-d? Price wises it only 30dollars differrence E10L is 350rm and 2164-d is 320rm

Easy choice then.

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ziaudeen · 07-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenshin

Easy choice then.

oh brother, so are you saying that I should just buy the E10L, Please be very direct, I am very daft...

E10L - is still very new,
2164-D - It tested alot

So you are just saying i should just get the E10L. I really appreciate your feedback.

*karangguni* · 07-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziaudeen

Once you mess with the Region Code, that will destroy the Warranty of the product, right?

If you use third party firmware to make the drive region free, yes. There is another way - use software like AnyDVD to defeat the region protection. That won't invalidate the warranty of the drive. Of course, the software costs money though.

*karangguni* · 07-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziaudeen

oh brother, so are you saying that I should just buy the E10L, Please be very direct, I am very daft...

E10L - is still very new,
2164-D - It tested alot

So you are just saying i should just get the E10L. I really appreciate your feedback.

If I were you, I'd get the E10L. From what I understand, I prefer the chipset it is based on. I suspect it will be a better burner in the long run.

The only draw back is that it is so new that there is no region free firmware for it yet. So you will have to either use software to defeat the region protection first, or wait until region free firmware appears.

ziaudeen · 07-06-2006

Thanks karangguni, I will definitely take your word of advice, I have high respect for you in this, and I am sure our Dangerous brothers will have a new task at hand. For cracking this E10L, region free firmware.

I am still very vague on the this region protection area. So if want to burn data dvds what region should that be burnt under?

ziaudeen · 07-06-2006

I would be most probably going on either Friday or Saturday, Once I do guys i will take pictures of it, and i will start a new thread on it, and hope to learn more about DVD burning tips from our Masters her in the club cd-freaks forum. Especially from experience members like Karangguni and Kenshin

natasha8384 · 10-06-2006

Hope this helps.

Specs:
Manufactured: May 2006 in South Korea
ROM version: LE05

Write (max):
- DVD+R: 16x
- DVD+RW: 8x
- DVD+R Double Layer: 10x
- DVD-R Dual Layer: 16x
- DVD-R: 16x
- DVD-RW: 6x
- DVD-RAM: 12x
- CD-R: 48x
- CD-RW: 32x

Read (max):
- DVD-ROM: 16x
- DVD-R: 16x
- DVD-RW: 13x
- DVD-R Dual Layer: 12x
- CD-ROM: 48x

Lightscribe:
- Pix. rez: 600 [DPI]
- Track rez: 500-1070 [TPI]
- Linear Velocity: 0.25 - 1.40 [m/sec]
- Color: Monochrome

Data Transfer Rate:
- CD(max): 7.2 MB/s
- DVD(max): 22.16 MB/s

Average Access Time:
- CD: 125 msec
- DVD-ROM: 145 msec
- DVD-RAM: 270 msec

Software:
- Nero Express
- Nero BackItUp
- Nero Cover Designer
- InCD
- PowerProducer
- PowerDVD

Min. Requirements:
- Windows 2000 SP4 +
- P III 800 +
- USB 2
- RAM: 256 +
- VRAM: 64 +
- DirectX 9 +
- HDD: 20GB + of available space

*dodecahedron* · 10-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by karangguni

I've heard someone mention the model number before, but without any details. I am guessing that this drive is the external version of the H10N.

Karangguni, need to update the FAQ Q1, Q5? - the Exx is new.
i'd like to take this opportunity to commend you for your work on the FAQ

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*karangguni* · 10-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziaudeen

I am sure our Dangerous brothers will have a new task at hand. For cracking this E10L, region free firmware.

Generally the way most firmware patchers operate is that they need the firmware in a file form in order to be able to patch it. With some drives there are tools to extract the firmware from the drive itself inot a file but these tools don't seem to exist for LG writers. The only alternative is to wait till LG releases a firmware update (which of course comes as a file) on its service websites for this drive. Only then will they be able to work on a region free version.

So when LG releases their first firmware update for the E10L, just ask TDB for a region free version. They are great guys and they post here quite often. Just ask nicely they will probably have a crack at a region free version of the firmware.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziaudeen

I am still very vague on the this region protection area. So if want to burn data dvds what region should that be burnt under?

Region protection only applies for DVD movie discs. For all other types of DVD burning jobs, it does not play a part at all.

*karangguni* · 10-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodecahedron

Karangguni, need to update the FAQ Q1, Q5? - the Exx is new.
i'd like to take this opportunity to commend you for your work on the FAQ

I do have to update that thing, but I generally wait until I have enough changes to be made in general, then do it one shot.

The FAQ itself is really a collection of the information of the various posters on the forum itself. I just collected and organised it. They did all the research and testing and provided the real knowledge. It's one of the nice things bout a forum - the ability to collect a lot of information from many users in various places. It just needed some sort of order in all the chaos, so I provided an index page.

*karangguni* · 10-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by natasha8384

Hope this helps.

Specs:
Manufactured: May 2006 in South Korea
ROM version: LE05

Write (max):
- DVD+R: 16x
- DVD+RW: 8x
- DVD+R Double Layer: 10x
- DVD-R Dual Layer: 16x

Thanks! Useful stuff and probably what most users are looking for.

Now then, did I see that right? 16x DVD-R DL writing speed?!!

*dodecahedron* · 10-06-2006

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natasha8384 · 11-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by karangguni

Thanks! Useful stuff and probably what most users are looking for.

Now then, did I see that right? 16x DVD-R DL writing speed?!!

Glad you cought that -- the correct speed DVD-R Dual Layer is 6x. I double checked the rest of the specs and they are correct. So corrected version:

Specs:
Manufactured: May 2006 in South Korea
ROM version: LE05
Model: GSA-E10L (it's an external USB 2 drive)

Write (max):
- DVD+R: 16x
- DVD+RW: 8x
- DVD+R Double Layer: 10x
- DVD-R Dual Layer: 6x
- DVD-R: 16x
- DVD-RW: 6x
- DVD-RAM: 12x
- CD-R: 48x
- CD-RW: 32x

Read (max):
- DVD-ROM: 16x
- DVD-R: 16x
- DVD-RW: 13x
- DVD-R Dual Layer: 12x
- CD-ROM: 48x

Lightscribe:
- Pix. rez: 600 [DPI]
- Track rez: 500-1070 [TPI]
- Linear Velocity: 0.25 - 1.40 [m/sec]
- Color: Monochrome

Data Transfer Rate:
- CD(max): 7.2 MB/s
- DVD(max): 22.16 MB/s

Average Access Time:
- CD: 125 msec
- DVD-ROM: 145 msec
- DVD-RAM: 270 msec

Software:
- Nero Express
- Nero BackItUp
- Nero Cover Designer
- InCD
- PowerProducer
- PowerDVD

Min. Requirements:
- Windows 2000 SP4 +
- P III 800 +
- USB 2
- RAM: 256 +
- VRAM: 64 +
- DirectX 9 +
- HDD: 20GB + of available space

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natasha8384 · 11-06-2006

Two more images of GSA-E10L

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*karangguni* · 11-06-2006

Thanks again natasha8384. We've received information from other users that the GSA-H10L is essentially the lightscribe version of the H10N. It uses the same chipset and has an added optical sensor :

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=182304&page=2

So my guess is that the E10L is a H10L in an external case. It is looking like the E/H10x series of writers appears to be LG's new range of writers across the board.

natasha8384 · 11-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by karangguni

Thanks again natasha8384. We've received information from other users that the GSA-H10L is essentially the lightscribe version of the H10N. It uses the same chipset and has an added optical sensor :

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=182304&page=2

So my guess is that the E10L is a H10L in an external case. It is looking like the E/H10x series of writers appears to be LG's new range of writers across the board.

I think that's right. External E10L is equivalent to the internal H10L. "L" stands for Lightscribe.

There is also a version GSA-E10N, which is also an external version without Lightscribe, but otherwise the same (appearance, specs) as E10L. In fact, the included "LG Quick Setup Guide" in the E10L box refers to both "L" and "N" versions.

*Kenshin* · 12-06-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by ziaudeen

oh brother, so are you saying that I should just buy the E10L, Please be very direct, I am very daft...

E10L - is still very new,
2164-D - It tested alot

So you are just saying i should just get the E10L. I really appreciate your feedback.

Sure, E10L of course.

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*dishinit* · 14-06-2006

Just to tie in on this thread, I picked up an LG GSA H10L today at BB for $59 & change. The LG GSA E10L was $109 & change.
At some point I would like to crossflash to E10L and install in an enclosure (this is possible?). I would imagine the E10L Fw to be optimized for External use......USB2....correct? I prefer Prolific 3507 chipsets for my external cases (BenQ/Pioneer)....what chipset does LG use in their cases?
Is it possible to install the cross flashed GSA H10L>E10L in the original LG 2164d case I have?
Has anyone pulled the back of their external LG drive apart to swap drives (looks like USB chipset in housing attached to drive)?
Questions, questions....questions!

Any aware of this new model, LG GSA-E10L

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