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Press release: SlySoft announces new update policy
For Immediate Release

Antigua, West Indies - December, 1st 2008


SlySoft announces new update policy

Since Slysoft's beginnings in 2003, all Slysoft product licenses have
been sold with free product lifetime updates included. While standards,
technologies and SlySoft's product range have changed significantly
since 2003, only now has Slysoft's free lifetime update policy been
reviewed with respect to converting to an annual subscription fee format
for new license purchases.

According to SlySoft CEO Giancarlo Bettini, this change is justified and
will ensure first class products and future development:
"Our portfolio already contains eight products, and there is another
program in the pipeline. Each product is continuously being enhanced by
first-class developers; each product gets 24/7 top-notch multilingual
support. Our premises became a bit crowded in the last couple of years,
and, to be honest, we may not have reached our limits yet. Something
needs to be done in order to not only ensure Slysoft's continued
commitment to excellence but to also promote future improvements:
namely, growth and development. With respect to current financial
challenges the current economy presents, modifying our update policy
seems to be the only fair and reasonable step in lieu of a substantial
price increase. Details are yet to be determined and will follow."

In fairness, SlySoft announces this probable step well in advance of its
implementation in order to provide all interested parties with the
opportunity to purchase SlySoft products with guaranteed lifetime free
updates. Those buyers who act quickly during this time can also save an
additional 20% with the special ongoing Christmas promotion.
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Re: SlySoft changes updates policy

So this new product in the pipeline, are they taking pre-orders under the lifetime update policy?
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So this new product in the pipeline, are they taking pre-orders under the lifetime update policy?
We dont even know what the product is, but if they introduce it before the Christmas promotion I am sure it will be fairly priced. I have no information about pre-orders for an undisclosed product.
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Re: SlySoft changes updates policy

Maybe a CloneBluRay? I cannot remember if you could post links but here is the link to the slysoft forum posting for a new app:

http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=23294
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Maybe a CloneBluRay?
Now that would make dvdfab plat cringe though right??? I also kinda thought they might have this change in plan along the pipe as well considering the prices and subcription fees other companies have for their software yearly subscription.
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I'm pretty sure it's a kind of "ClondBD", because they are looking for alpha testers with BD burners and media..

I'm a bit disappointed about the new update policy, this was the biggest reason why I recommended Slysoft tools to all my friends. (Instead of DVDFab..)
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Re: SlySoft changes updates policy

This change in policy in disappointing though not very surprising. I wonder if there is a way to monitor piracy rates of the program, before and after the change. I suspect AnyDVD is heavily pirated anyway, but after the yearly subscription model goes in I would expect those piracy rates to climb rather steeply. Any one on the cusp of buying, then finding out there is a yearly fee will be discouraged from purchasing such a program, especially since the "free" versions appear on the torrents within days of release.

AnyDVD is aimed at a rather small market anyway. They have to compete both with the pirates and the free decryption programs which work with 90-95% of the dvds released to market anyway, plus DVDFab. And AnyDVD cannot compete in price with the free version of Fab...DVDFab HD Decrypter. The real question on decryption programs is how long can DVDFab continue to release a free version that is constantly updated.

So it seems AnyDVD's real future is on the HD side of things. They have a virtual monopoly there, doom9 programmers notwithstanding. But again, this is a miniscule market at the present time. As more and more equipment becomes HDCP compliant, AnyDVD HD's usefulness as a facilitator of HD video playback becomes less and less important. And backups of commercially made Blu Ray is expensive going to BD-R or BD-RE, time consuming, and requires high end computer equipment.
This market is not mature, and may take many years to replace DVDs, if it ever does. Raising the prices on AnyDVD HD in the recent past did nothing to encourage people to invest in HD backups, and this new model of subscription payments will tend to suppress any newcomers to this process.
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Re: SlySoft changes updates policy

So what does all this mean to existing AnyDVD(HD),CloneCD,and CloneDVD2 license holders? Me

I have read this 3 or 4 times.
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So what does all this mean to existing AnyDVD(HD),CloneCD,and CloneDVD2 license holders? Me

I have read this 3 or 4 times.


It may mean that there would be a yearly update fee. Oh well inflation, Maybe Obama will help Bob
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It may mean that there would be a yearly update fee. Oh well inflation, Maybe Obama will help Bob
Well if that's the case i won't be doing business with them any more.....i'll just write it off as stupidity.

They promised lifetime free upgrades and now this .................. yeah right. yo ho yo ho
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Re: SlySoft changes updates policy

The way I read it Bob, they are going to grandfather in all those who currently have licenses. The yearly fee looks like it will apply only to those who buy after the new policy is instated.

The pertinent sentence is here:
In fairness, SlySoft announces this probable step well in advance of its
implementation in order to provide all interested parties with the
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Well i don't want to bash Slysoft but they should word this differently and just say if you already have our products or purchase them before a certain date then no worries.

New product? yeah sure charge what they want for it and after a certain date then charge for updates i guess. Seems to be the fad now.
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Grandfather clause is in effect from what I understand as well. I think and only think these policy changes are going to take effect as of January 1, 2009.
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Well i don't want to bash Slysoft but they should word this differently and just say if you already have our products or purchase them before a certain date then no worries.
This is clearly stated twice in the announcement.

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This is clearly stated twice in the announcement.
Must not be to clear to everyone as this thread is full of questions and misunderstandings.

Thanks for the confirmation.
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Re: SlySoft changes updates policy

Sorry for bumping this thread, but I this new policy is a bit weird... I just got a mail from SlySoft:

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Dear Customer,

As of January 1st, 2011, SlySoft will discontinue the 'lifetime' update
subscription. This is being announced well in advance to give everybody
a final opportunity to acquire SlySoft products and product upgrades
with lifetime free updates and renew limited subscriptions to lifetime.
There is no indication in the mail I got about this being applied to new subscriptions only, and I already got a lifetime license more than a year ago.

In the mail they also mentioned about purchasing an upgrade to AnyDVD HD, but I already bought this upgrade again about a year ago, so now I'm officially confused.

This new policy is applied to everybody or only to who buy a license after 31th December? What happen to who already have a lifetime update license?

In my installed product I am supposed to have a lifetime license, but after getting this mail I'm worried that I'll get a bad surprise next year

I hope that someone of Slysoft team read this forum and will post a clarify, because there is not a lot of time left to get the lifetime license, so I need to know asap if my current product is lifetime or not.

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My understanding is the change only applies to new purchases.
They have to honor the old contract .
At least in theory. The problem is it's hard to sue a software company .
Even a judgement in your favor in your jurisdiction doesn't have much or any weight in another country.
You just have to hope slysoft will be the good company it has always been.
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What worries me is that in the mail I got text is slightly different than in web site, so if they are saying me that I can purchase the update to AnyDVD HD even if I already purchased it 1 year ago I don't know anymore what is the truth...
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It doesn't read that way to me geno888.

They're saying they want to offer people that haven't yet bought a lifetime licence the chance to do so whether they're new customers or existing limited licence customers.

Existing lifetime users aren't mentioned and will be unaffected.


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I suppose that this will be true also for clonedvd (I purchased it too)
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I'm hoping that Slysoft will give us at least a 30 day window to buy a lifetime subscription to clonebd when it comes out.

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Slysoft has always honored their customers, so I'm hoping that whatever they have to defeat Cinavia will be offered to the subscribers with a chance for a lifetime upgrade, or failing that, a deep discount deal.

I wished that other software companies were as respected as Slysoft is in doing what they said they would do.

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Slysoft has always honored their customers, so I'm hoping that whatever they have to defeat Cinavia will be offered to the subscribers with a chance for a lifetime upgrade, or failing that, a deep discount deal.
There have been quite a few queries recently regarding Cinavia in relation to various programs and as it's difficult to answer these without cross posting I've started a general thread here which you can check out for further information.


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Thanks for the info.

Well, the ball is in the dvd decryption's court (Slysoft and Fengtao.) We'll see who can figure this problem out.

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I'm hoping that Slysoft will give us at least a 30 day window to buy a lifetime subscription to clonebd when it comes out.

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I am sure they will offer something to make their customers Happy. As will all the other competitors when and if these products become available.
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