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here is something to consider.
would changing the "aspect ratio" be possible "on the fly" with the hard drive caching?
plus i take it we would be allowed to run anydvd (the regular version just decrypting) on 1 computer (cause you have 1 key for that) and the "Home Theater Edition" (watching movies "on the fly") on another at the same time(and 1 key for this)?
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I think that they should launch an entirely new program with a different name, to stop users potentially feeling cheated.

For example, the 'home theater editon' would not need css decryption, if it was just to play from the home theater pc.

however... how about giving a remote option to switch between drives... i dont own a home theater, so i dont know if this is already possible, but it would be good if you could mount images onto virtual drives then the 'home theater edition' could make a menu of the drives, so you can pick what movie you want to watch... just a suggestion.. im sure there are flaws in it...
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i don't understand how poeple would feel cheated? if you don't need it, you don't need it. like i said in another thread (but not there anymore?) things change in time. so when you need it you have the software already and just buy the 2nd tier ( "Home Theater Edition") key.
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here is something to consider.
would changing the "aspect ratio" be possible "on the fly" with the hard drive caching?
plus i take it we would be allowed to run anydvd (the regular version just decrypting) on 1 computer (cause you have 1 key for that) and the "Home Theater Edition" (watching movies "on the fly") on another at the same time(and 1 key for this)?

James has said that the home theater edition would require a different key. My understanding was this would be the same as anydvd now with some bells and whistles. Anotherwords use it as you would with the reg. anydvd plus a whole lot more. Then the only thing need to keep up on a regular basis is the updates as we get now on both where the home theater edition would get a little bigger update due to the extra features added in it.

As for the aspect ratio to standard or widescreen I definately vote on that because I have a few movies that are set at standard and when I get a widescreen I want it to cover the whole screen not just the middle with black space on each side ( left and right).
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James has said that the home theater edition would require a different key. My understanding was this would be the same as anydvd now with some bells and whistles. Anotherwords use it as you would with the reg. anydvd plus a whole lot more. Then the only thing need to keep up on a regular basis is the updates as we get now on both where the home theater edition would get a little bigger update due to the extra features added in it.
yes it would be 1 program but with different levels/tiers and would be updated the same way as it is now, but depending on the levels/tiers you have. but once the software becomes bug free (for "Home Theater Edition")
there will be less updates then the regular anydvd level/tier. just more upgrades for "Home Theater Edition".


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As for the aspect ratio to standard or widescreen I definately vote on that because I have a few movies that are set at standard and when I get a widescreen I want it to cover the whole screen not just the middle with black space on each side ( left and right).
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Yep I suggested the aspect ratio to a few different backup software companies and now seeing who wants to give it a wack. Yes I'm aware that there is a free tool to do this but unless I really have to I don't want the extra step.
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Yep I suggested the aspect ratio to a few different backup software companies and now seeing who wants to give it a wack. Yes I'm aware that there is a free tool to do this but unless I really have to I don't want the extra step.
yes the tool is for making a back up. i'm talking about what tru said about using it for watching a movie without putting it onto your hdd.
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yes the tool is for making a back up. i'm talking about what tru said about using it for watching a movie without putting it onto your hdd.
So is Dr Who in this case. He's suggesting the ability to change the aspect ratio on the fly while watching a film. It's an interesting idea. I wonder if that can be done on the fly. If so, that'd be pretty nice. These are the types of ideas that James needs to convince his boss that the new architecture for AnyDVD Home Theater is worthwhile. And these are the types of things that *I* believe the architecture would allow for. But, there is absolutely no reason these features need to be limited to watching the movie. They could easily translate into your copies, as well. The ad removal idea, for instance, could be done for a copy. (Yes, we have that now to an extent, but, it's currently not possible to remove embedded ads and trailers that are part of the menu. Vob Blanker allows this and I think AnyDVD Home Theater could with the hard drive caching feature.) If Dr Who wants to change the aspect ratio for his copy, he'd be able to do that, as well. That's the point I was trying to make, though. With this architecture change, it'd be possible to add a whole bunch of things we just can't think of right now. James shouldn't just market it to his boss as a simple feature request...it's truly an architecture enhancement that could provide useful functionality far into the future.
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So is Dr Who in this case. He's suggesting the ability to change the aspect ratio on the fly while watching a film. It's an interesting idea. I wonder if that can be done on the fly. If so, that'd be pretty nice. These are the types of ideas that James needs to convince his boss that the new architecture for AnyDVD Home Theater is worthwhile. And these are the types of things that *I* believe the architecture would allow for. But, there is absolutely no reason these features need to be limited to watching the movie. They could easily translate into your copies, as well. The ad removal idea, for instance, could be done for a copy. (Yes, we have that now to an extent, but, it's currently not possible to remove embedded ads and trailers that are part of the menu. Vob Blanker allows this and I think AnyDVD Home Theater could with the hard drive caching feature.) If Dr Who wants to change the aspect ratio for his copy, he'd be able to do that, as well. That's the point I was trying to make, though. With this architecture change, it'd be possible to add a whole bunch of things we just can't think of right now. James shouldn't just market it to his boss as a simple feature request...it's truly an architecture enhancement that could provide useful functionality far into the future.
I'm glad my complex posting is understood. I like the features mentioned and I like to copy the dvd as you said yes to widescreen or to standard depending on the users wants. It is hard to generate ideals as we are going off of Tru's O/P. So with that said we can just generate and see what James says. I'm sure he'll be in and out of this forum now this thread has started.
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it might be possible but it might cause a conflict cause you would have to put it on both levels/tiers of the program (1 for anydvd and 1 for the "Home Theater Edition") you have to remember it's a multiple program in 1. so if you could only add it in 1 place i would prefer it to be in the "Home Theater Edition" part as there is software to do this for burning and not for "on the fly".
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I'm glad my complex posting is understood. I like the features mentioned and I like to copy the dvd as you said yes to widescreen or to standard depending on the users wants. It is hard to generate ideals as we are going off of Tru's O/P. So with that said we can just generate and see what James says. I'm sure he'll be in and out of this forum now this thread has started.
Well, what intrigued me was what James said in his reply to Tru as to how the hard disc caching might work. If it's done at the kernel level, it'd be available to all applications which means that if you enabled an advanced ad removal feature, or an aspect ratio changing feature, or even Tru's subtitle moving feature, that would be available to any program accessing the DVD. The cache would be "hidden" to the application using the DVD, but, it gives greater flexibility in what can be modified by AnyDVD "on the fly". That means those features would be available not only for a software DVD player, but, also for your copying software, as well.

Here's one for ya James....How about the ability to remove ads while copying with CloneCD and keeping the original layer break information?
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it might be possible but it might cause a conflict cause you would have to put it on both levels/tiers of the program (1 for anydvd and 1 for the "Home Theater Edition") you have to remember it's a multiple program in 1. so if you could only add it in 1 place i would prefer it to be in the "Home Theater Edition" part as there is software to do this for burning and not for "on the fly".
How is it any different than the remove trailers or jump to movie options already in AnyDVD? Those options WILL affect your copy, as well. If you don't want them on for your copy, just turn those features off. Since AnyDVD would be unified and tiered, the options would only show up if you have a license for the Home Theater version anyway.
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Well, what intrigued me was what James said in his reply to Tru as to how the hard disc caching might work. If it's done at the kernel level, it'd be available to all applications which means that if you enabled an advanced ad removal feature, or an aspect ratio changing feature, or even Tru's subtitle moving feature, that would be available to any program accessing the DVD. The cache would be "hidden" to the application using the DVD, but, it gives greater flexibility in what can be modified by AnyDVD "on the fly". That means those features would be available not only for a software DVD player, but, also for your copying software, as well.

Here's one for ya James....How about the ability to remove ads while copying with CloneCD and keeping the original layer break information?
now your talking.



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How is it any different than the remove trailers or jump to movie options already in AnyDVD? Those options WILL affect your copy, as well. If you don't want them on for your copy, just turn those features off. Since AnyDVD would be unified and tiered, the options would only show up if you have a license for the Home Theater version anyway.
i thought the whole idea was for the "on the fly" ("Home Theater Edition") (watching movies from the dvd itself and not having to put the movie on the hdd). i'm not a programmer but i do understand how software works. but then again anydvd isn't your regular software. so i'm not sure. that's why i asked
"here is something to consider.
would changing the "aspect ratio" be possible "on the fly" with the hard drive caching?
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Although not a registered user of AnyDVD, my opinion is that the development team should focus on covering new protection schemes and incompatibility issues with various third party transcoding/encoding programs...
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So is Dr Who in this case. He's suggesting the ability to change the aspect ratio on the fly while watching a film. It's an interesting idea. I wonder if that can be done on the fly. If so, that'd be pretty nice. These are the types of ideas that James needs to convince his boss that the new architecture for AnyDVD Home Theater is worthwhile. And these are the types of things that *I* believe the architecture would allow for. But, there is absolutely no reason these features need to be limited to watching the movie. They could easily translate into your copies, as well. The ad removal idea, for instance, could be done for a copy. (Yes, we have that now to an extent, but, it's currently not possible to remove embedded ads and trailers that are part of the menu. Vob Blanker allows this and I think AnyDVD Home Theater could with the hard drive caching feature.) If Dr Who wants to change the aspect ratio for his copy, he'd be able to do that, as well. That's the point I was trying to make, though. With this architecture change, it'd be possible to add a whole bunch of things we just can't think of right now. James shouldn't just market it to his boss as a simple feature request...it's truly an architecture enhancement that could provide useful functionality far into the future.
I would be very interested in having the ability to remove ads and trailers within the menu structure without having to rip the movie to disk first. Currently I have to rip the movie to disk, and then run it through Vobblanker before I can use DVD Shrink to transcode. Cutting out these two steps would be save a lot of my time and would certainly be worth the cost of an upgrade to AnyDVD.

By the way, my DVD player, a Philips DVP642 already repositions subtitles to play in the black letterboxes. I thought most DVD players already do this. Is the feature request being made so you can do the same on your media PC?
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Although not a registered user of AnyDVD, my opinion is that the development team should focus on covering new protection schemes and incompatibility issues with various third party transcoding/encoding programs...

They don't plan on never updating the regular anydvd they'll still do that there is just a bunch a new features for a diferent version with a or some extra kernals. Who knows the extra kernal may help with the other various regions too. Who really knows the capabilities of a diferent version.
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i thought the whole idea was for the "on the fly" ("Home Theater Edition") (watching movies from the dvd itself and not having to put the movie on the hdd). i'm not a programmer but i do understand how software works. but then again anydvd isn't your regular software. so i'm not sure. that's why i asked
"here is something to consider.
would changing the "aspect ratio" be possible "on the fly" with the hard drive caching?
Yes, the idea is for AnyDVD to be able to set certain options for on the fly DVD watching for a Home Theater PC. However, James had mentioned that the only way to perform the on the fly modification of subtitle position and color for Tru's original request would be to use hard drive caching. It's not exactly the same as ripping to the hard drive though as AnyDVD Home Theater version would cache the contents of the DVD in the background and modify the cache depending on the options you have set(subtitle position, remove trailers, etc). What you need to understand, though, is that because this happens at a low level, any program accessing the DVD would see any options you set...just like the existing jump to movie option. That means if you turn that option on and use CloneDVD to make a copy, your copy will jump to movie, as well. The same would be true of any advanced options in the AnyDVD Home Theater version. If you set them, CloneDVD will see them just as a software DVD player like PowerDVD or WinDVD would.
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I would be very interested in having the ability to remove ads and trailers within the menu structure without having to rip the movie to disk first. Currently I have to rip the movie to disk, and then run it through Vobblanker before I can use DVD Shrink to transcode. Cutting out these two steps would be save a lot of my time and would certainly be worth the cost of an upgrade to AnyDVD.

By the way, my DVD player, a Philips DVP642 already repositions subtitles to play in the black letterboxes. I thought most DVD players already do this. Is the feature request being made so you can do the same on your media PC?
Well, it wouldn't be as "on the fly" as what AnyDVD currently does as the DVD would have to be cached on the hard drive in order to do the modifications we're requesting, but, the difference is that it would be done in the background by AnyDVD. You wouldn't have to rip it to the hard drive yourself and then modify it, so, I still see it as saving time.

My DVD player does NOT do that. (God I hate Sony DVD players) But yes, that was the original request Tru had made and I agreed with him wholeheartedly that it'd be a really awesome feature to have.
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thank you SamuriHL for explaining so i can understand. so it all depends on the hard drive caching part. now we just need a wopper so james can sell it to his boss.
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thank you SamuriHL for explaining so i can understand. so it all depends on the hard drive caching part. now we just need a wopper so james can sell it to his boss.

Yes, sorry I'm not so techy on this topic.
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thank you SamuriHL for explaining so i can understand. so it all depends on the hard drive caching part. now we just need a wopper so james can sell it to his boss.
Not a problem at all. And yes, we need more features that could be implemented on top of the hard drive caching functionality that James could then go back to his boss and say "Hey, look at all the things we could do...this would make people be willing to spend more money on this product." I think we have some potentially good ideas as a start. This is what I was hoping for. Tru is badly hoping we can make the case so he can get the subtitle moving and color changing feature implemented. I don't blame him...that's a very useful feature.
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I think we need some more ideals though so James has a few more ideals to throw around if these fail though but I'm flabbergasted.
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We do, but it is often very difficult to guess what upsets a particular application. Especially Shrink & Recode seem both very picky with their input.
Unfortunately the problem is not caused by the unreferenced cell commands you have pointed out in another thread.
Until the problems with 3rd party applications are solved you can always use CloneDVD2 to rip to harddisk and use Shrink/Recode on the output. As a bonus you can use CloneDVD's nice title removal feature during ripping.
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There are at least 2-3 other applications that Shrink/Recode don 't have a problem with their output...
A simple comparison of the final IFOs should be enough to pinpoint the problem...
Isn 't that correct?
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