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AnyDVD Discuss, New AnyDVD, CloneDVD, CloneCD, Virtual CloneDrive at Movie copy software forum; This has happened before with CloneDVD . I didn't get e-mail either. They are betas, so I guess they want to see if there are major bugs first.

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strachan (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 14-04-2005
This has happened before with CloneDVD. I didn't get e-mail either. They are betas, so I guess they want to see if there are major bugs first.
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FreqNasty (Banned)
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Posted: 14-04-2005
Ollie,

Did you fix that anydvd autoplay issue with Pioneer A08XLA?
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kamikazee (Blindwrite Team Member)
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Posted: 14-04-2005
I'm not speaking for SlySoft, but these are beta releases, and aren't generally released to the public, they release the beta's here for those of us willing to take the "chance", you don't want the general public installing a beta on a machine they rely on. This is to give us 64 bit users something to "play" with. When it goes final i'm sure they will notify the registered users.

And I didn't get an email about these beta releases.
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Olli (Original author of CloneCD and CloneDVD Author)
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Posted: 14-04-2005
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I am new to posting and just want to say hi to everyone first. I would like to know why this update is only available from forum sites and not from the slysoft site, also since I have always gotten emails saying there are updates why this time there was no email, yet others got them?
Beta (or preview) versions are not announced through the automatic update check or through emails.
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Olli (Original author of CloneCD and CloneDVD Author)
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Posted: 14-04-2005
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Ollie,

Did you fix that anydvd autoplay issue with Pioneer A08XLA?
James probably did. Just try it.
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Olli (Original author of CloneCD and CloneDVD Author)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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Originally Posted by strachan
This has happened before with CloneDVD. I didn't get e-mail either. They are betas, so I guess they want to see if there are major bugs first.
Right, and Kamikazee (thank you!) has already found a major one (well, not a bug in CloneDVD/AnyDVD, but a bug in Nero which makes CloneDVD/AnyDVD look as if it would have a bug... for the user this makes no difference)
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olmari (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
So, are you going to do truely 64-but programs too? I mean I am NOT complaining now in any way, but just extremely curious... I will not need any timetables or so, jsut the answer that are you developing/going to develop AnyDVD/ CloneDVD/CloneCD truely 64-bit in any point of time?

In the mean time I am totally satisfied with current versions of there programs with my 32-bit system
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Olli (Original author of CloneCD and CloneDVD Author)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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So, are you going to do truely 64-but programs too? I mean I am NOT complaining now in any way, but just extremely curious... I will not need any timetables or so, jsut the answer that are you developing/going to develop AnyDVD/ CloneDVD/CloneCD truely 64-bit in any point of time?

In the mean time I am totally satisfied with current versions of there programs with my 32-bit system
I can't speak for the guys at SlySoft, but I don't think AnyDVD makes sense as 64 bit app. During the operation the driver does all the decryption, and this is already 64 bit! Hmm, makes me think... PowerDVD or WinDVD (32bit) should use 1% less CPU power if AnyDVD is running on a 64 bit system, as the decryption is done more efficiently in the 64 bit kernel! (Don't take this serious, please).
CloneCD doesn't make much sense either, it is not CPU intensive.
Virtual CloneDrive must be completely 64 bit, because it is a driver (must be ported) and a shell extension (must be ported as well, because 64 bit explorer can't load 32 bit shell extensions). As a 64 bit shell extension can't load 32 bit DLLs, both VCD.dll and ElbyCDIO.dll must be ported to 64 bit as well. I tell you, this is not gonna happen really soon. (Because I have to do all this and I don't have the time, and Elaborate Bytes AG doesn't seem to have the intention to pay me doing it... I doubt, that SlySoft will either)
CloneDVD... well, this might make at least a little bit of sense. QT is already running with 64 bit Linuxes, so I hope there will be a 64 bit Windows port soon. I still have to port ElbyCDIO.dll and WriteDVD.dll to 64 bit (shouldn't be that hard, I believe). And I want the 64 bit Intel compiler for the transcoder.
Will it be worth it? I don't know. Someone said "35% speed gain". Well, I believe this is rather optimistic. 15% is probably realistic.
To make a long story short: Yes, maybe. But not soon. When the tools are stable and the market share of 64bit systems is big enough.
At the meantime, I am happy that the "Trio Infernale" (CloneDVD, AnyDVD and CloneCD) work flawlessly on 64 bit systems.
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olmari (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
Well.. I am kinda perfectionist in my matters so even tiny gain is gain I am getting A64 system relatively soon and ofcourse I want to use my AnyDVD+ CloneDVD with it. I will even pay again for them to get them truely 64-bit... Ofcourse it is shame that companies owning?/selling software doesn't want to pay you develop them perfectly...

Just my .02
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Olli (Original author of CloneCD and CloneDVD Author)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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Ofcourse it is shame that companies owning?/selling software doesn't want to pay you develop them perfectly...
Virtual CloneDrive is Freeware so it doesn't make much revenue... I can't really blame them.
As I said, porting CloneDVD makes sense, both technically and economically, if the time is right (all the tools are present and enough marketshare).
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olmari (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
Ah, so they're not willing to pay just from VirtualCloneDrive, but are willing from CloneDVD/AnyDVD/CloneCD? THAT is what I do understand then that is not too keen to pay from free soft development... Sorry about my bad english tough (or better the proper understanding) =)

BTW: if you need beta/alpha tester (on whatever platform) don't hesitate from asking
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journbon (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
Hey guys
A newbie here. Just tried using the new 64 bit versions of clone dvd and anydvd. Everything is fine until it is time to burn the dvd and then my entire computer freezes up. I am using WindowsXP 64 bit. Every was fine with the older versions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Thanks
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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I am using WindowsXP 64 bit. Every was fine with the older versions.
How is this possible, the older versions did not work on WindowsXP 64 bit.
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Anysia (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
I am very happy about this update, as for some inexplicable reason 4.6.3.1 would have fits and starts with certain discs, that I had previously had no problems viewing. Thanks!
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journbon (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
Hey Ollie

I dont know . Never had a problem with the older versions of anydvd and dvdclone. I'm using a tiger athlon 64 3000 .
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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Hey Ollie

I dont know . Never had a problem with the older versions of anydvd and dvdclone. I'm using a tiger athlon 64 3000 .
But with Windows XP (32 bit), right?
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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I am very happy about this update, as for some inexplicable reason 4.6.3.1 would have fits and starts with certain discs, that I had previously had no problems viewing. Thanks!
Probably not so inexplicable. From the AnyDVD 5 changelog:
- Fix: Brute force CSS key cracking, fixes not correctly
retrieved CSS keys with some titles and drives, causing
"Clone 1" errors with CloneDVD or garbled playback.
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Probably not so inexplicable. From the AnyDVD 5 changelog:
- Fix: Brute force CSS key cracking, fixes not correctly
retrieved CSS keys with some titles and drives, causing
"Clone 1" errors with CloneDVD or garbled playback.

v5 seems to have fixed the problem, but what I would like to know, for my own curiosity, is why after using 4.6.3.1 it started not quite working (partial content descrambling) on DVDs that earlier version had no trouble with. LegallyBlonde 2 worked when I first started it. Had to stop to go out for a few hours. when I came back and restarted it, it started pixelating and streaking. (Yes, I checked for smudges/scratches/dirt. None) When I deleted the CSS key and tried again, it played flawlessly. That trick didn't work with SG1 discs however.

Not critisizing, just curious as to why it started having fits.
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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Originally Posted by Anysia
v5 seems to have fixed the problem, but what I would like to know, for my own curiosity, is why after using 4.6.3.1 it started not quite working (partial content descrambling) on DVDs that earlier version had no trouble with. LegallyBlonde 2 worked when I first started it. Had to stop to go out for a few hours. when I came back and restarted it, it started pixelating and streaking. (Yes, I checked for smudges/scratches/dirt. None) When I deleted the CSS key and tried again, it played flawlessly. That trick didn't work with SG1 discs however.

Not critisizing, just curious as to why it started having fits.
Probably because 4.6.3.1 introduced a bug, which 5.0.0.0 fixes.
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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Probably because 4.6.3.1 introduced a bug, which 5.0.0.0 fixes.
Maybe, but maybe I didn't state it right. I had played LB2 with 4.6.3.1 and it worked. Had to leave for a few hours, so shut dvd program down. Came back, restarted it, and it wouldn't play right. Scrambled. Deleted the CSS key, and then it worked fine. But that trick didn't work with the Stargate SG1 discs.

Oh well, regardless, its working now. I will tame the curiousity itch.
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syrinx (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
I just installed the new beta and got this error. I did a search on ElbyCDFL and didn't come up with anything on the forum.
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syrinx (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
I finally got the beta CloneDVD working by uninstalling my regular copy of CloneCD. I haven't reinstalled CloneCD yet, but I will tomorrow night and make sure everything works together.
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pctech (New on Forum)
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Posted: 15-04-2005
Is anyone running AnyDVD_v5.0.0.1?

AnyDVD History_v5.0.0.1, 2005 04 13
- Change: Added workaround for compatibility problem with
Nero under 64 bit Windows


It was available for about a day and is no longer...

Thanks in advance!
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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I finally got the beta CloneDVD working by uninstalling my regular copy of CloneCD. I haven't reinstalled CloneCD yet, but I will tomorrow night and make sure everything works together.
Which version of CloneDVD was this?
Is this on Windows 64? If yes, the same Workaround applies like with NeroCheck.exe (read this thread).
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Posted: 15-04-2005
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sorry i have a dumb question here. what is the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit windows xp?
a beta version is available for free download if you want to try it
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