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Asus / Pioneer Writer Discuss, Pioneer DVR-117D/F Results and Discussion at CD and DVD Writers forum; MID: MCC03RG20 Type: DVD-R 16x (Verbatim) Burned with ImgBurn @ 20x Drive / FW: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06 Interface: EIDE Attached Images MCC03RG20_Write20x_DiscQuality_Scan4x.png (55.5 KB, 866 views) MCC03RG20_Write20x_Benchmark.png (53.5 KB, 861 views)

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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: MCC03RG20
Type: DVD-R 16x (Verbatim)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 20x
Drive / FW: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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File Type: png MCC03RG20_Write20x_DiscQuality_Scan4x.png (55.5 KB, 866 views)
File Type: png MCC03RG20_Write20x_Benchmark.png (53.5 KB, 861 views)
Last edited by Albert; 05-07-2009 at 03:58. Reason: Augment thread title
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: MKM 001 (MIS)
Type: DVD+R DL 2.4-6x rated (Verbatim)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 8x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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File Type: png MKM 001_Write8x_DiscQuality_Scan6x.png (52.5 KB, 872 views)
File Type: png MKM001_Write8x_Benchmark.png (50.4 KB, 863 views)
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DM85 (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
I will keep my eye on this as well! 20x wasn't half bad. The 7240s had a slightly better MKM 001 burn imo. Is this the same batch you used for your optiarc test?
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
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I will keep my eye on this as well! 20x wasn't half bad. The 7240s had a slightly better MKM 001 burn imo. Is this the same batch you used for your optiarc test?
Yes, MKM 001s for 7240S and DVR-117D were from the same spindle of 20.
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: MCC03RG20
Type: DVD-R 16x (Verbatim)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 16x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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Posted: 28-03-2009
nice jadburner
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: CMC MAG. AM3
Type: DVD-R 16x (Memorex)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 18x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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Posted: 28-03-2009
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nice jadburner
Thanks, James. It's nice to see that the AD-7240 and DVR-117 give us two great options for burns. Thanks again for all the tips/hints!
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: TYG02
Type: DVD-R 8x (TY premium line)
Burned with ImgBurn @12x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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File Type: png DVR-117DBK_TYG02_Write12x_DiscQuality_Scan4x.png (55.6 KB, 842 views)
File Type: png DVR-117DBK_TYG02_Write12x_Benchmark.png (53.3 KB, 836 views)
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: TYG02
Type: DVD-R 8x (TY premium line)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 8x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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File Type: png DVR-117DBK_TYG02_Write8x_DiscQuality_Scan4x.png (55.3 KB, 838 views)
File Type: png DVR-117DBK_TYG02_Write8x_Benchmark.png (53.1 KB, 831 views)
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
MID: MCC03RG20
Type: DVD-R 16x (Verbatim)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 24x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
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Posted: 28-03-2009
Nice 24x and I'm glad to see it can do a nice 8x -R burn.
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Posted: 28-03-2009
These scans are looking pretty good I must say
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Posted: 28-03-2009
so is this drive seeming better than the 116?
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 28-03-2009
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so is this drive seeming better than the 116?
Excellent question. I can't say with certainty yet, but I've been thinking about it and plan to do some comparisons this weekend, making burns on the 116 and 117 with the same image as well as media from the same spindle. I'll post results as i have them.
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Posted: 28-03-2009
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Excellent question. I can't say with certainty yet, but I've been thinking about it and plan to do some comparisons this weekend, making burns on the 116 and 117 with the same image as well as media from the same spindle. I'll post results as i have them.
Great idea, I'm also very interested in a comparision between both
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 29-03-2009
Due to the variability between media, burns, etc., I decided to do the following for comparison purposes. For a given media from the same spindle, I made three burns with the same image file on my Pioneer DVR-116DBK and 117DBK. Since I'm also interested in how they compare to the Optiarc AD-7200 and 7240, I did the same for those drives as well. I started with Verbatim DVD-R (16x) MCC03RG20 media, but even with just that media it took a lot of runs and scans. I have all of the scans, but am not sure if everyone wants to see all of them, only the 116 and 117 scans, or something else. I did summarize the results in a spreadsheet, which I'm attaching. Feedback encouraged on whether this is useful, if you want to see some or all of the plots (in this thread or another), and for other media that I have access to.
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File Type: xls Comparison Burn Summary.xls (27.5 KB, 165 views)
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Posted: 29-03-2009
Very nice, jadburner!

I believe the 117 can become as good as the 116 is, but the 116 is the champ actually.
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Posted: 29-03-2009
Thanks for all the scans & work, jadburner.
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MID: MCC03RG20
Type: DVD-R 16x (Verbatim)
Burned with ImgBurn @ 24x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE
I'm assuming this was really at 20x, as the drive is a max 20x drive? Don't forget that ImgBurn may let you choose the speed, but that's not necessarily the speed you'll get; rather, you'll get what the drive supports and decides to write at [whenever you select an unsupported speed].
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 29-03-2009
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Thanks for all the scans & work, jadburner.

I'm assuming this was really at 20x, as the drive is a max 20x drive? Don't forget that ImgBurn may let you choose the speed, but that's not necessarily the speed you'll get; rather, you'll get what the drive supports and decides to write at [whenever you select an unsupported speed].
Thanks for the question. I specified 16x as the write speed in ImgBurn, which all drives supported for the MCC03RG20 media. All four drives came very close to that near the end of the burn. I had done a couple 20x and a 24x burns previously with the 117D, but now I'm wondering if that drive actually reached that speed.

I'll have an updated spreadsheet in a few hours, with TDK DVD+R 16x (CMC-MAG-M01-00) media.
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 30-03-2009
Added results for TDK DVD+R 16x (CMC MAG-M01-00) media.
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File Type: xls Comparison Burn Summary v2.xls (42.0 KB, 86 views)
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Posted: 30-03-2009
Pioneer DVR-117
MCC03RG20 @20x
Scanned on Plextor PX-850A

I also hope a 20x burner can burn disc at 24x speed.
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File Type: png 24x imgburn.PNG (32.8 KB, 722 views)
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 30-03-2009
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Thanks for all the scans & work, jadburner.

I'm assuming this was really at 20x, as the drive is a max 20x drive? Don't forget that ImgBurn may let you choose the speed, but that's not necessarily the speed you'll get; rather, you'll get what the drive supports and decides to write at [whenever you select an unsupported speed].
Sorry, Albert. I misunderstood your note when I replied previously. Although I specified 24x for that burn in ImgBurn, I don't believe it reached above 20x. So you're right that it was essentially a 20x burn.
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
Posts: 155
Posted: 30-03-2009
MID: RITEKF1
Type: Fujifilm branded DVD-R 16x
Burned with ImgBurn @ 16x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE

My best of three burns with this media...
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File Type: png DVR-117DBK_RITEKF1_Write16xC_DiscQuality_Scan4x.png (55.1 KB, 717 views)
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jadburner (MyCE Member)
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Posted: 30-03-2009
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MID: RITEKF1
Type: Fujifilm branded DVD-R 16x
Burned with ImgBurn @ 16x
Drive / Fw: Pioneer DVR-117DBK / 1.06
Interface: EIDE

My best of three burns with this media...
Here's the TRT for that burn.
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File Type: png DVR-117DBK_RITEKF1_Write16xC_Benchmark.png (53.5 KB, 711 views)
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