Pioneer DVR-112 or 212?

Asus / Pioneer Writer Discuss, Pioneer DVR-112 or 212? at CD, DVD and Blu-ray Writers forum; Has the Pioneer DVR-112 replaced the DVR-111 as one of the best DVD writers on the market? I bought a DVR-111 couple of months ago, but now one of my brothers need a writer himself. Like me, he burns with mostly Verbatim DVD+R 2.4x DL discs and Verbatim DVD-R 8x

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    Has the Pioneer DVR-112 replaced the DVR-111 as one of the best DVD writers on the market? I bought a DVR-111 couple of months ago, but now one of my brothers need a writer himself. Like me, he burns with mostly Verbatim DVD+R 2.4x DL discs and Verbatim DVD-R 8x discs.

    My computer is fairly modern and have SATA and PATA slots. I'm tempted to get the 212 for the SATA option, but the Asus drive got a bad review and I think that is based on the 212. Should I just get the 112 then?
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    Take a look at the 212 scan thread then from there you can decide for yourself if it's worth purchasing. I just bought one and so far I like the burns but I'm still using the official Pioneer firmware. I'm testing the drive to make sure it burns okay with the brands of dvd media that I use. When I'm done then I'll probably flash it with "The Dangerous Brother's" hacked firmware to enable bitsetting for single layer dvd+r media.
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    Quote:
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    Take a look at the 212 scan thread then from there you can decide for yourself if it's worth purchasing. I just bought one and so far I like the burns but I'm still using the official Pioneer firmware. I'm testing the drive to make sure it burns okay with the brands of dvd media that I use. When I'm done then I'll probably flash it with "The Dangerous Brother's" hacked firmware to enable bitsetting for single layer dvd+r media.
    I'm new to this and I'm not sure how to interpret the scans. How would you compare it to the 112?
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    The 212 is the same as 112 just with SATA. It is not the same drive as the ASUS one.
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    Utility for Pioneer 112 users to use newest A12J by Pionner or 112L by Buffalo firmware after crossflashing to A12J or 112L with TDB firmware.
    Note: All flashers are to be used in Windows by double clicking the exe file. If this should not work try in safe mode.
    Important Warning: Only use this if you know what you are doing. Flashing a drive with this package will void the Warranty. Please use this at your own risk!
    I updated the package and it contains 8.21 from Buffalo and 1.21 firmware from Pioneer.
    http://www.megaupload.com/jp/?d=DB70XXWZ
    http://rapidshare.com/files/51249663..._112L.rar.html
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    Quote:
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    The 212 is the same as 112 just with SATA. It is not the same drive as the ASUS one.
    Are you 100% sure about this?
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    The latest Asus drive is based on the MediaTek chipset, like those found in LITE-ON and Samsung drives.
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    The only hacked firmware I have seen from TDB is for RPC1...
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    I really hope TDB hooks up with a crossflash for the 212D to buffalo firmware...so bitsetting on +R discs would be nice...
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    Quote:
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    When I'm done then I'll probably flash it with "The Dangerous Brother's" hacked firmware to enable bitsetting for single layer dvd+r media.
    I only find old 1.15 f/w with RPC1 on TDB's site - no word about bitsetting, no updates for newer f/w.

    Damn I thought the 212 would be a good deal for SATA and now it can't set booktype to DVD-ROM
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    The Pioneer R12 series has matured nicely with the 1.22 firmware revision. You will rarely have problems with the new Pioneer drives, unless you purchase an older drive that was manufactured in the period where they were having problems with CD reading and writing. Newer drives shouldn't be affected by this issue.

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    Can you give more details on the issue with older drives? I didn't test much CDRs yet. My drive's manufacturing date is june 2007. What's the "period where they were having problems"?
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    Pac, you should be okay... My first Pioneer DVR-212D was mfg in Dec 2006 and could not bunr CD-R's... I now have 2 from March 2007 and they are both fine.... Still, no bitsetting (expect for DVD+R DL), but they burn DVD-R's real well.
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    I only find old 1.15 f/w with RPC1 on TDB's site - no word about bitsetting, no updates for newer f/w.

    Damn I thought the 212 would be a good deal for SATA and now it can't set booktype to DVD-ROM
    You can get SL +R bitsetting with Buffalo firmware, see forum memeber Koba's sig for download and instructions.
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    Quote:
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    You can get SL +R bitsetting with Buffalo firmware, see forum memeber Koba's sig for download and instructions.
    Koba is only for 112, In order to do the 212 crossflash to buffalo, we will need a TDB Buffalo 212 with Kernel and that does not exist yet. The buffalo 8.21 fw is only an update for current owner of buffalo drive until the TDB kernel version is available.

    Hopefully soon now that there is a buffalo for 212 widely available.

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    Me Too Confused Wat to Get ?

    will be Burning only TY02 & Verbs DVD +R DL & @ times CDs ?

    should i wait for some more time since many have this CD burning Problem ?

    Help Pls
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    should i wait for some more time since many have this CD burning Problem ?
    The CD burning problem has been resolved in production for months, you won't find a faulty one in the channel now.
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    @Brad-Pioneer: thnx for Clarifying Mate,Wat MFG date Should i look for ? so that i dont get a Piece which is Faulty can u Pls Suggest ?

    Also Which Model I should go for ?
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    I would go for the DVR-212. Great results with 16-speed DVD+R Verbatim (both Tayo and MMC) burnt at 16x. I wouldn't go for slower discs. Have a look at the scans page you can at least use 4speed dual layer with good results.

    Go for SATA by design (burst etc) it's quicker/more advanced. Plus you could still use the drive in a future pc.
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    if you can do without the bitset on Dvd+R SL than the 212 seems a good choice. I still have PC using some old pioneer burner after many years, So having a SATA drive might be a good investment for a long time.

    If you need bitset on SL or do not mind that long term IDE may become less accessible, then the 112 is good.

    It is probably my only little annoyance with Pioneer that SL bitset thing, difficult to understand in todays market that they do not make it easily available.

    -soso
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    You could even get a 112 and a IDE>SATA converter if necessary later.
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    ^^^ i dont mind a IDE a drive at all,so 112 is the Choice ? worried more on the Burning aspect than messy cables
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    Quote:
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    @Brad-Pioneer: thnx for Clarifying Mate,Wat MFG date Should i look for ? so that i dont get a Piece which is Faulty can u Pls Suggest ?
    We're not publicising this information at all. What we don't want is 90% of people who are within this build date range whose drives are fine suddenly wanting to return them.

    I can tell you now that months and months worth of production is out there now without this fault and this channel moves stock very quickly.
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    Well I can understand that Brad. Thanks for the information.

    ebanat, go for the 212, i bought mine a month ago with mfg date june 2007 and it is fine, so I guess you won't have any troubles. And if you get an older drive AND you experience problems with cd burning, i'm pretty sure pioneer or even brad here can help you!
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    finally my the iDE port on the Via6421 works wonderfully well and since I plan on keeping that in the new setup, I could consider the 112. The great thing is that Koba patch allows to use future Buffalo FW and have access to the SL bitmap (only thing I miss on the pioneer really)

    not disapointed first one @12x on verb mcc04 (papa...) with imgburn

    All prog burn well except Nero cd-dvd speed which gave me the second burn below. Do not mind really since I do not burn with it usually, but strange behavior in the clv zone, all others went perfectly fine.
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    the one at 8x with nero speed had no problem in the CLV zone

    BTW I tried both at 12x and got the same. The resulting scan and transfert test with great, just the burn is behaving strange. Again just FYI.
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