Pioneer 110

*zebadee* · 10-11-2005

Hi

For those interested there's a review over at cdrinfo
Plus RPC1 f/w thanks to tdb.

A10XL same drive, just a facelift & honeycomb case. I tried it, works fine.

*_chef_* · 10-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebadee

A10XL same drive, just a facelift & honeycomb case. I tried it, works fine.

That is not just a little design difference - not really surprising if you compare it to earlier models.

Mr.Wolf · 10-11-2005

I've crossflashed my DVR-110D to the DVR-110 (using TDB A10XL fw) and just started to do some tests:

DVD-R read speed is 12,5X as it's in the specs, and not 9.35X as the review (incorrectly) shows.

Tkx to TDB, AS and all that made this possible

*zebadee* · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Wolf

I've crossflashed my DVR-110D to the DVR-110 and just started to do some test:

DVD-R read speed is 12,5X as it's in the specs, and not 9.35X as the review (incorrectly) shows.

Tkx to TDB, AS and all that made this possible

Hi

I'm not sure but I believe that they've quoted 9.35X (which is ave, not peak).
If I'm correct start is generally around 5.20X ave 9.35X peak 12.50X.

Mr.Wolf · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebadee

Hi

I'm not sure but I believe that they've quoted 9.35X (which is ave, not peak).
If I'm correct start is generally around 5.20X ave 9.35X peak 12.50X.

Yes, I also thought it could be average, but in the same graph they compare it to 12x for the plextor.

12x is peak for the plextor ? isn't it?
To be honest I have no ideia it the plextor can go up to 16x peak?

Hummm, I took another look and it's the plextor 740 (benq I think) and goes up to 16x reading DVD-R.
That explains it.

Looks like the review is correct.
Thanks for pointing it out

rling · 11-11-2005

Just needed to have bitsetting added to the firmware to make it ideal...

*agent009* · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by zebadee

A10XL same drive, just a facelift & honeycomb case.

Don't forget a fair amount of soundproofing foam inside to make it noticeably quieter than the 110, at identical RPMs.

*steven2874* · 11-11-2005

Who wants to buy a raffle ticket on the date for the first "I HOSED MY PIONEER 110D!"
thread?
Hope it's not my post. Of course I wouldn't use the vulgarity "hosed". I'd f*ck mine up.

willrob · 11-11-2005

What is the advantage of crossflashing the 110D to the A10XL firmware? It's already riplock free. The Dangerous Bros have made a region free version of both firmwares (1.22 for 110D and A10XL), but what's the significant difference between them?

*steven2874* · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by willrob

What is the advantage of crossflashing the 110D to the A10XL firmware? It's already riplock free. The Dangerous Bros have made a region free version of both firmwares (1.22 for 110D and A10XL), but what's the significant difference between them?

DVD-RAM read and write @ 5X. The 110D is 2X read only. If DVD-RAM isn't something you need I'd stick with the 110D.

*zebadee* · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by agent009

Don't forget a fair amount of soundproofing foam inside to make it noticeably quieter than the 110, at identical RPMs.

Hi

Yeah! Thanks I did know just in a rush. But worth pointing out.

*steven2874* · 12-11-2005

First burn on my newly crossflashed 110 (thanks to Las Vegas and THE Dangerous Brothers). D or no D this burner does quite nicely on TYG02-

KRomeleoN · 12-11-2005

i just crossflashed my drive. went easy, looks to be ok. shows up in winxp as a dvd-ram drive now. awesome.

beatmag · 13-11-2005

so who's crossflashed and been using dvd-ram?
i just want to find out, has anything failed during the crossflash,

*steven2874* · 13-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by beatmag

so who's crossflashed and been using dvd-ram?
i just want to find out, has anything failed during the crossflash,

Do you READ any of these posts?

beatmag · 13-11-2005

well everyone's tried it like once, or twice

anyone actually use it alot......
i mean like burning alot of things after crossflash......

dvd-ram normal -r / -rw .....any signs of failure?

yes yes, i know it works.........but im trying to find out , the negatives to doing a crossflash....

the chipset is the same, is the laser the same? pioneer just puzzles me to have 2 exact drives with different firmware, its not a thing they usually do.... it certainly saves money for them, but it doesn't give any advantages to sell all these types of drives..... the 110d and 110 are $3 apart in my country and thats like US$1.5 , yes they rolled out the 110d early for the speed increase in dual layer, apart from that they have achieved nothing, why didn't they give us the opportunity to upgrade to DVD-RAM, like they did before with DVD-RW on the 108/109 faster DVD-RW +RW

they would have sold even more 110d's if they would upgrade us to DVD-RAM for free....

*_chef_* · 13-11-2005

Honestly, I don't see any sense in your previous post, beatmag.

ALL were explained en detail before.
And the last sentence brings me only to: lol.

willrob · 13-11-2005

My guess is the 110 was intended for a paticular market where DVD-Ram is more popular. The 110 has not been intorduced in North America, posibly because the market isn't demanding that sort of use. While it's superior as a back-up medium, the average consumer isn't backing up a DVD worth of files on a regular basis.

*HenryNettles* · 16-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by willrob

My guess is the 110 was intended for a paticular market where DVD-Ram is more popular. The 110 has not been intorduced in North America, posibly because the market isn't demanding that sort of use. While it's superior as a back-up medium, the average consumer isn't backing up a DVD worth of files on a regular basis.

Interesting conjecture. If true, this might also explain why Nec has introduced the 3550 in the USA, and the 4550 in Europe.

10-11-2005	#1
zebadee CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,269	Pioneer 110 Hi For those interested there's a review over at cdrinfo Plus RPC1 f/w thanks to tdb. A10XL same drive, just a facelift & honeycomb case. I tried it, works fine.

10-11-2005	#3
Mr.Wolf New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 22	Re: Pioneer 110 I've crossflashed my DVR-110D to the DVR-110 (using TDB A10XL fw) and just started to do some tests: DVD-R read speed is 12,5X as it's in the specs, and not 9.35X as the review (incorrectly) shows. Tkx to TDB, AS and all that made this possible Last edited by Mr.Wolf; 11-11-2005 at 00:15.

11-11-2005	#6
rling CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 39	Re: Pioneer 110 Just needed to have bitsetting added to the firmware to make it ideal...

11-11-2005	#8
steven2874 MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,164	Re: Pioneer 110 Who wants to buy a raffle ticket on the date for the first "I HOSED MY PIONEER 110D!" thread? Hope it's not my post. Of course I wouldn't use the vulgarity "hosed". I'd f*ck mine up.

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willrob CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 130	Re: Pioneer 110 What is the advantage of crossflashing the 110D to the A10XL firmware? It's already riplock free. The Dangerous Bros have made a region free version of both firmwares (1.22 for 110D and A10XL), but what's the significant difference between them?

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12-11-2005	#13
KRomeleoN CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 32	Re: Pioneer 110 i just crossflashed my drive. went easy, looks to be ok. shows up in winxp as a dvd-ram drive now. awesome.

13-11-2005	#14
beatmag CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 73	Re: Pioneer 110 so who's crossflashed and been using dvd-ram? i just want to find out, has anything failed during the crossflash,

13-11-2005	#16
beatmag CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 73	Re: Pioneer 110 well everyone's tried it like once, or twice anyone actually use it alot...... i mean like burning alot of things after crossflash...... dvd-ram normal -r / -rw .....any signs of failure? yes yes, i know it works.........but im trying to find out , the negatives to doing a crossflash.... the chipset is the same, is the laser the same? pioneer just puzzles me to have 2 exact drives with different firmware, its not a thing they usually do.... it certainly saves money for them, but it doesn't give any advantages to sell all these types of drives..... the 110d and 110 are $3 apart in my country and thats like US$1.5 , yes they rolled out the 110d early for the speed increase in dual layer, apart from that they have achieved nothing, why didn't they give us the opportunity to upgrade to DVD-RAM, like they did before with DVD-RW on the 108/109 faster DVD-RW +RW they would have sold even more 110d's if they would upgrade us to DVD-RAM for free....

13-11-2005	#17
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: Pioneer 110 Honestly, I don't see any sense in your previous post, beatmag. ALL were explained en detail before. And the last sentence brings me only to: lol. __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

13-11-2005	#18
willrob CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 130	Re: Pioneer 110 My guess is the 110 was intended for a paticular market where DVD-Ram is more popular. The 110 has not been intorduced in North America, posibly because the market isn't demanding that sort of use. While it's superior as a back-up medium, the average consumer isn't backing up a DVD worth of files on a regular basis.

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