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Old Posted: 02-05-2009
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Also, since the Benq 1650 uses NEC chipset and allows overburning using Imgburn, could someone test a DVD+R to see if the AD-7240A also allows overburning?

The AD-7240A works for quality score scanning dvds and cds?
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I havent seen any scans of CDs yet - and this is important for a decision.
Did you look at posts 444 and 445?
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Also, since the Benq 1650 uses NEC chipset and allows overburning using Imgburn, could someone test a DVD+R to see if the AD-7240A also allows overburning?

The AD-7240A works for quality score scanning dvds and cds?
The BenQ 1650 never had a NEC Chipset. It will QS anything.
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The BenQ 1650 never had a NEC Chipset. It will QS anything.
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Did you look at posts 444 and 445?

Ah ok thank you. It looks like it burns CDs well.
Old Posted: 02-05-2009
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Also, since the Benq 1650 uses NEC chipset and allows overburning using Imgburn, could someone test a DVD+R to see if the AD-7240A also allows overburning?

The AD-7240A works for quality score scanning dvds and cds?
So far the one time I tried it for QS it pretty much sucked at it, no jitter either but that's no surprise.
I've also tried overburning with it and I don't think it officially supports it at all though it did seem to over burn at least a small amount when I used it with Image Burn. When I need to cram as much stuff as possible on a disk I use my 1655, which I have been doing quite a bit lately burning my HDTV caps to HD-DVD and AVCHD on regular media.
I can say at least when it does run outa space Image Burn will let it still finalize the disk and it usually plays right to the point the data stops.
With the BenQ it will keep going till the disk is completely full then never complete the finalize stage so disk is unplayable.
If the disk is too big it will just throw a error and not burn with either drive so I have to find disks that have more space then usual to make it work. I can sometimes squeak about 49000 bytes with the right media.
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So far the one time I tried it for QS it pretty much sucked at it, no jitter either but that's no surprise.
I've also tried overburning with it and I don't think it officially supports it at all though it did seem to over burn at least a small amount when I used it with Image Burn. When I need to cram as much stuff as possible on a disk I use my 1655, which I have been doing quite a bit lately burning my HDTV caps to HD-DVD and AVCHD on regular media.
I can say at least when it does run outa space Image Burn will let it still finalize the disk and it usually plays right to the point the data stops.
With the BenQ it will keep going till the disk is completely full then never complete the finalize stage so disk is unplayable.
If the disk is too big it will just throw a error and not burn with either drive so I have to find disks that have more space then usual to make it work. I can sometimes squeak about 49000 bytes with the right media.

Half a meg is basically nothing. It's a shame my 1650 is dead - I think im beginning to miss it.
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The AD-7240A works for quality score scanning dvds and cds?
Still testing, but AD-7240S CD scanning matching BenQ pretty closely .

Optiarc AD-7240S(1.01), 700MB burned at 16X with Cd-Dvd Speed
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Warning: this stunt burn was performed by a professional stunt burner with redundant safety measures in place (2-6 packs Heineken, 2- bottles Everclear, 1- compassionate wife). Don't try this at home, kids. Philips can be dangerous stuff.
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I wonder why the Sony cant jitter scan

I look forward to the comparison between the 1650 and the Sony for dvd scanning. That part should be quite revealing.
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Is the AD-7240A/S able to write CD-text? I notice some of the reviews use a software that detects it as unable to write cd-text, yet I believe hte specifications says it can

How loud is this drive for reading and writing, compared to say the Benq 1650?
Old Posted: 03-05-2009
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I wonder why the Sony cant jitter scan

I look forward to the comparison between the 1650 and the Sony for dvd scanning. That part should be quite revealing.
First a comparison of the AD-7240's ability to catch a coaster. Finally found a use for this KHypermedia cr*p .
For the NEC experts, is the possibility of jitter scanning lacking from the new chipset?

Optiarc AD-7240S(1.01)
KHypermedia 8X DVD-R burned at 8X
MID: CMC MAG AE1
Made in my neighbor's garage, I believe
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Is the AD-7240A/S able to write CD-text? I notice some of the reviews use a software that detects it as unable to write cd-text, yet I believe hte specifications says it can

How loud is this drive for reading and writing, compared to say the Benq 1650?
Just burrrned a CD-text, popped it in my old 50+1 Sony CD changer, and the AD-7240S most definitely does CD-text .
Far as noise goes, have mine in a Sata enclosure. Bit of wind noise burning at 16X+. Same with TRT. More than external DW1650. Would be quieter mounted internally. Noise level more than AD-7200A, bout the same as DVR-115D.
On the subject of quality scanning, we really can't do without jitter testing, can we ?
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Philips +RW 8x @ 8x
Very impressive result.
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Just burrrned a CD-text, popped it in my old 50+1 Sony CD changer, and the AD-7240S most definitely does CD-text .
Far as noise goes, have mine in a Sata enclosure. Bit of wind noise burning at 16X+. Same with TRT. More than external DW1650. Would be quieter mounted internally. Noise level more than AD-7200A, bout the same as DVR-115D.
On the subject of quality scanning, we really can't do without jitter testing, can we ?
Thank you for the feedback on noise and on CD-text! Most excellent!
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First a comparison of the AD-7240's ability to catch a coaster. Finally found a use for this KHypermedia cr*p .
For the NEC experts, is the possibility of jitter scanning lacking from the new chipset?

Optiarc AD-7240S(1.01)
KHypermedia 8X DVD-R burned at 8X
MID: CMC MAG AE1
Made in my neighbor's garage, I believe

Is it me or does the 7240 almost always scan *and* burn higher PIE near the end for most burns?

PIFs I just noticed are absent/not scanned. I thought that was the only way to tell if the disc is usable or not, but apparently not since DVDspeed says otherways.

I think the 1650 is better for scanning even omitting the PIF and jitter.

Thanks for feedback!
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Philips +RW 8x @ 8x
Very impressive result.
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Can someone please scan a MCC004 burnt @16x burnt on the AD-7240A, then also scanned using the AD-7240A @ 8x?

Im trying to see if my AD-7240A is ok or not
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Are you getting a bad scan after burning one? You know many of the MCC 004 disks aren't always as good as they could be, variable quality depending on the brand and who made em.
That's why I don't always freak out when my favorite drives suddenly do a not as good as expected burn sometimes.
You ought to do a few burns at different speeds to see if you got a great batch or a variable one because many of us can have a 98/99 quality burn then end up with a 90 or less outa the same spindle if they aren't quite up to snuff.
I hope it's OK after all the trying to decide what new drive to get
Post what you ended up with here and we'll see if it looks outa sorts for a typical burn.
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hmm how do i insert a picture of the scan into this forum
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When you hit the reply button one of the options below the dialog box is attach files/Manage Attachments button. It will allow you to include smallish JPG, PNG, etc files, up to about 4 depending on the size. It should have info once you push the button on size and amount limits and all the other stuff so as long as you have a small version of the scan saved you can add it directly to your post and we'll all see it if every things done right.
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Using Sony AD-7240A burnt @16x, scanned using Sony AD-7240A @8x

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That scan looks pretty good to me for a first time burn at 16x. When I tried my drive it was looking like the scans were way over done but that looks about like what I get with most decent media. Too bad your 1650 died, if it works at all you might want to pop it open and clean the pickup and things to see if you can save it as a scanner and odd media burner.
Most peoples DL burns look nice as well, though the first one I did looked awful scan wise but played all the way fine as a AVCHD disk on my Panasonic BD-10a first gen Blu Ray player.
I think that scan is in here or the first 7240 thread I think deanwitty? started.
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Some of the scans in here had PIE under 20 for MCC004 burnt at 16x. I keep wondering if my burner was dropped before it got to me
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