NEC ND-3550/4550@4551, ND-3570/4570@4571, AD-5170/7170@7173, 5200/7200@7203 discussion thread

I gave mine to my brother who has a PC so ancient that it runs on coal wand can't cope with anything higher than Windows ME.

Believe it or not he's still using the replacement cartridge I bought all that time ago!


Wombler

Despite my experiences I'm reluctantly forced to admit that the ND-4550a is the best writer I've ever had.

Just don't tell anyone I said it though.


Wombler

Liggy,

I know I'm new to this forum, but I haven't gotten the feeling that anyone is trying to work against you. I believe that the people that posted the Binflash 1.24 was trying to help the (stupid) people like me that didn't read enough before trying the crossflashing and ending up with a deaddrive. I wish someone would just lock that thread. But I do find it hypocritical when you have a program on your site "NEC Drive converter" that does the same thing that the bootcode flashers do but for different drive. A little confusing if you ask me.

If you are flashing the same drive model's firmware, this should work. However I wonder why someone wants to do this. If I could choose, I'd take the MadDog firmware.

I know that this is happening. But I have to admit that you can't know it since this is something going on behind the public scenes.

Of course I could do that, but it would result in anyone else creating a new thread again.

It might be confusing, but there are reasons for this. I can't explain it, but I can only ask you to trust me.

Anyway the drive converter doesn't really help for many drives.

thank you for the response i just figured nec would be beter cause ive heard a nec i never heard a mad dog till i found this burner .so should i go back to the maddog firmware this si the burner i have its a maddog 16X3DVD9-8X.

I personally need bitsetting and wouldn't use stock NEC firmware on my drives. If you don't need it, either would be OK I guess.

I fully agree...

Hi there,

I just bought a NEC-3550a not long ago.

Question, if Dee & Liggy can modify firmware (Seems easy, for them)

why doesn't NEC release their firmware with full bitsettings and riplocked using their Stock Firmware ?

Are are they so afraid of ?

Being popular and make money ? HAHAHA !

Only NEC can answer that but they have surely more important stuff to do first for their drives, IMO. Also like with Pioneer, OEMs supply the rebadged drives with additional gimmicks.

Dear Liggy,
nobody in this forum can work against you.. you are our Great Boss.
About the bootcode, leave the people do what they want, your name is not involved, you are out of the game.

I might be called a lot of names, but I'm anything but a boss.

Not necessarily. But I can't do anything about it at the moment. I cannot stop anyone from crossflashing a drive - but I don't have to support it either.

How about adding a statement to the EULA that your program is not to be used to crossflash a drive. Therefore, anyone that does this will be breaking the EULA. Therefore, everyone knows they are doing it against your wishes and you are in the clear.

Well i did not read this whole thread but i would like a new firmware for my new 3550a that come in today..

any idea when dl's will be enabled again ?

I have two Nec drives, a 3520 and a 3540. They both have L&Ds latest firmware and I am very happy with them. I ytried the 4550 and I took it back to the store, it couldn't do any CD-DVD Speed scanning, I mean it could but the scans looked like crap so I decieded to return the 4550 and stick with my Nec 3520 and 3540, if it weren't for L&D, I never would have even bought them, I think Nec will lose alot of business because of this and I agree with Liggy, he does this for nothing but to help others and for maybe a hobby, he doesn't deserve this aggravation.

Thats what is frustrating about the 3550, the last firmware I believe has dates about a month and 1/2 older than the 4550 and 4551 and 2 months older than the 3551. These drives are all the same hardware wise so why the big lag in firmware dates. Dee or Liggy could tell you if there are any differences as far as media updates and writing strategies. My guess is there are and why are they waiting to upgrade the 3550's?

Let's stay on topic please and not get into a drive bashing match.

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i appreicate the larger issues here, but remember; if downloads remain disabled, the terrorists win...

...or something, I dunno.. I just want modified 3520 firmware.. RPC2 makes me sad

speaking of which, if downloads are not coming back quickly.. can someone please PM me if they can supply me with a recent Binflash and both versions of Dee's 2.U4 Firmware... please?

i dunno if it's against the rules to ask such things, i only skimmed the forum rules.. hope it's ok..

@ wildstoo,

Welcome to the Forum.

Liggy being extremely helpful during this “situation” in posting #2 in this thread made some kind of threat about making BinFlash available. Maybe if you “PMed” him in the goodness in his heart he would help you.

Best Regards,
bjkg

All I can say about this whole mess is thanks for what I have been able to use. I have had fun with the modified firmwares and learned quite a bit in the process.
If this is the end of it, that is the decision of those involved and so be it.
Free will is what is important and if any people who develop software or what ever have a wish to share it with the public, that's cool. If not, that's up to them.

One thing I have learned over the years is this, If you want to keep something private, share it with no one.
If you share it with one friend they will eventually share it with another friend and so on. Sooner or later, that stinking cat always seems to get out of that bag.

What ever L&D decide is OK with me, it's their work and their decision.

Hey, I only come around here once in a while, so this current mess is new to me.

I only came here after being directed from Liggy and Dee's download page. I was going to grab the latest Dee modded firmware to compare some result against umm a different firmware for my 3520.

I sort of feel this situation is silly. If someone makes a tool but does not want anyone to have it, why make it or distribute it privately? This is the internet and nothing is secure or private. I myself am a coder and realize that if I do not want something public, do not let it leave my PC. Yeah, you have the right to be upset because somebody shared your private tool, but getting upset over old versions of binflash (that has been linked to and distributed thousands of times)?

It is their right to stop hosting their files, but that cannot stop the same files from being distributed by others. You can ask people not to share it, but unless it is protected by copyright what can you do (stop helping the comunity)?

Ok, it is also your right to stop making tools/firmware, but it seems like you are doing this for the wrong reasons (to get back at a couple of people). In the process you are "punishing" many others who rely on your stuff, and possibly the sale of NEC drives in the enthusiast community. I know I would have never bought one had it not been for Liggys bitsetting firmware.

I see the sentiment from both the users and the modders that nobody else will be able to do the same work. I disagree. In the past, Liggy, Dee, Quickee, and Herrie have all been helpful to me. They are reasonable and will answer questions if you ask them correctly. All knowledge required to get into modding has been supplied on these forums and can be found by the willing. If they stop somebody else will pick it up. It does not take a lot of coding knowledge, just the correct mindset to start looking at things different. There are many able, just few willing. The tools and firmware for the current generation and previous generations are there for analysis and examples.

Anyways, good luck to all involved and thanks for giving me something to rant about today.

It looks like nobody got the message. I'm not doing it to punish anyone. I would probably even have released such a tool myself. The matter is simply that I could get in serious legal trouble and that's something I don't really want. Since firmwares for older drives were not in question, they are available again - but I still have to think about what to do with Binflash.

Too lazy today to answer the rest of your post and too busy with cursing about this little knob in the drive bay of IBM Thinkpads that make installing different drives a bit difficult if you don't have a saw

what version of Nero support LF?

Nero 6.6.1.3d / 6.6.1.4 and also the latest 7 version I believe. But you must have the correct serials to get it working I believe. There is another thread about that somewehere overhere.....

I don't think anyone is trying to punish anyone here and most of us feel that way I think

I really think that when something anyone does for enjoyment or to help others begins to bring stress into their life it's time to back off and think about weather they want to do this or not.

If Liggy or Dee need time to sort things out and make decisions about what they want to do or when they have time to do it that is their business. They owe us nothing.

I really think the majority of the members here feel similar to the way I do and would not ask anyone here to do something they don't want to.

Well I better go fix my network. We have thunder and lightening in the middle of a blizzard here and it got my network switch LOL.