NEC 2.18 including bitsetting support

NEC / Optiarc Writer Discuss, NEC 2.18 including bitsetting support at CD and DVD Writers forum; Mmmmmm... What I am going to say he is a little heavy but who it does not love to read the one that ignores it. Sorry by my english of Sevilla I am going to show to test graphics coming from a ROM. They will not serve to compare with

Old Posted: 18-11-2004
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Mmmmmm... What I am going to say he is a little heavy but who it does not love to read the one that ignores it. Sorry by my english of Sevilla I am going to show to test graphics coming from a ROM. They will not serve to compare with yours tests, but as no test says the truth, all, including those of ROM are used for a single thing: it serves to compare within they themselves.
This beautiful history back began one week when I updated the FW of the Nec from the 216 to the 218, officials, using autoexe official. the things saw of the way in that I show in graph one.
Soon I used Liggy´s binflash to update to the Liggy´s 218 bitsetting (impressive!). Everything seemed beautiful so as a fairy tale and as it is seen in graph two.
The values PIF had really even descended! Nevertheless, the PI curve had changed... suddenly jitter and average near the end, in last the Z-clv zones, raised quickly.
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Old Posted: 18-11-2004
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In order to be to me calm, I made a simple test transfer rate. Shit! What is that so bad that it happens in graph three??
I cried and I shouted because the worse thing had happened... Nothing in the test of the Aopen made think that something thus was going to happen... but it was happening... It would be the high value of the Jitter in the end? I believe yes that. But something bad still was to happen. How to recover the readability of first tests? Flashed with binflash to return to the 218 official, flashed time and time again with different new and old FW...... the curve of old and wanted Pi/Jitter did not return to appear... Then the idea of flasher with binflash of return to the 216 was happened, and next to flasher with autoexe 218 official to original... Fixed (test four) I believe that several things of which story has happened here, are for thinking them slowly...
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Old Posted: 18-11-2004
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Yo-

Just flashed both my 3500's with Liggys 2.18 and binflasher - worked out great-

and yes Prodisc 8x +R's will burn at 12x - however I wouldn't suggest that you do this - I have had terrible burning issues with this media at 8x - however it does make good copies from already burned masters at 8x

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Old Posted: 18-11-2004
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I just flashed mine with the new FW. But booksetting for DVD +R DL is still inactive. Did I do something wrong here?
Old Posted: 18-11-2004
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I also did the burn test using the decryptor, and I am getting really slow burns that only goes up to 6.2. I used to get 13 with hacked 2.16. I am using the fuji film TY-02 that I recently got from BB. I guess I will try your 2.18se then.
Old Posted: 18-11-2004
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You're probably ripping a DL DVD... max reading speed for DL disc is 7x... for SL is 12x
Old Posted: 19-11-2004
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I have decided to flash my NEC 3500 with Liggy's 2.18 but when I check the book settings, it did not change. I did see the RPC1 & Region has change. How can I enable all the book settings?
Old Posted: 19-11-2004
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16x Yuden T02 with 2.18 bitsetting.
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16x Yuden T02 with 2.18 bitsetting.
Doesn't get much better than that at 16x!
Old Posted: 19-11-2004
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TY02 from Rima, I set recording to MAX, topped out at 14.5X before dropping down to 12.4X after 4G. Are LiteOn readers better for doing quality scans? If so, which reader is recommended?
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Old Posted: 19-11-2004
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I just burned a Traxdata DVD+R DL disc with a movie (Matrix, PAL).
The burn went fine, verification of the data too. Unfortunately the booktype was set to "DVD+R DL", and most of my DVD players don't like this disc.

I've set the booktype to DVD-ROM with NECWinFlash.exe, and burned with DVD Decrypter. I haven't set used the booktype button in DVD Decrypter though.

Does DVD Decrypter override my drive's setting? I'm reluctant to try another disc, since they are pretty expensive..
But since Nero finds the booktype setting ability of the drive (with 2.18 Liggy), I guess it's really a matter of setting the booktype in all burning software

Oh btw, if anyone's interested I can make a scan of this disc.. but I don't have a Liteon drive, just my 3500 and a Pioneer reader.
Old Posted: 21-11-2004
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Hi, someone can tell me the change beetwen the beta8 and beta10?
Are they fondamental?
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Old Posted: 21-11-2004
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I have had some problems with the 2C8_SE firmware burning Traxdata +R DL. I tried burning with Nero 6.6.0.1 with current recorder setting. After burning it indeed pointed out that booktype was DVD-ROM, but my dvd player (A Panasonic S35) is not able to play it. I also tried to play in my XBOX and PS2 but without any luck either.

I now have the new 2.18 Liggy, but I am afraid of wasting another DL disc since they are still quite expensive. Does anyone know if I have to switch off the extended lay-out and high compatibility mode to make a working backup? I tried the same movies to burn on a DVD-R and they worked perfectly, but I really want them to work on a Traxdata DL
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I have had some problems with the 2C8_SE firmware burning Traxdata +R DL. I tried burning with Nero 6.6.0.1 with current recorder setting. After burning it indeed pointed out that booktype was DVD-ROM, but my dvd player (A Panasonic S35) is not able to play it. I also tried to play in my XBOX and PS2 but without any luck either.

I now have the new 2.18 Liggy, but I am afraid of wasting another DL disc since they are still quite expensive. Does anyone know if I have to switch off the extended lay-out and high compatibility mode to make a working backup? I tried the same movies to burn on a DVD-R and they worked perfectly, but I really want them to work on a Traxdata DL
I noticed the same thing yesterday when I burned a movie to a Traxdata +R DL disc. The booktype was set to DVD-ROM (with Nero), but lots of dvd players (including dvd-roms) won't read the disc.

I don't think you can fix this, maybe the drives aren't sensitive/powerful enough to read the disc.
Old Posted: 22-11-2004
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I noticed the same thing yesterday when I burned a movie to a Traxdata +R DL disc. The booktype was set to DVD-ROM (with Nero), but lots of dvd players (including dvd-roms) won't read the disc.

I don't think you can fix this, maybe the drives aren't sensitive/powerful enough to read the disc.
But this is with the SE firmware, right?
Or with the firmware of Lizzy, where this tread is all about?
Old Posted: 22-11-2004
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But this is with the SE firmware, right?
Or with the firmware of Lizzy, where this tread is all about?
No, with Liggy's firmware, posted on the first page.
NOT the extra hacked/modified SE version.

I was using 218btrpc1.bin (original by Liggy).
What version after that is best? I've just flashed to Dee-27's Beta10, but can't find what's new in this one.
Old Posted: 22-11-2004
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I, too am some issues with the bitsetting feature on this firmware... NECWinFlash (aka BinFlash) can't seem to recognize the settings, but I can get them to set with WinBTypeV2. NEC CD-DVD Speed 3.55 doesn't recognize the bitsetting, but I set Nero 6.6.0.1 to just use the drive default... and the discs turn out just fine as DVD-ROM booktype. Weird.

BTW, I encountered the same issue after having flashed to the NEC-rebadged version of MADDOG 2FA by The Dangerous Brothers. Maybe it's just the MADDOG code being weird on my drive.

I have an AMD Athlon XP 2600+ with an MSI K7N2 Delta-L motherboard, which uses the nVidia nForce2 Ultra400 chipset. I'm running the latest nVidia IDE drivers (I know, I know...), so maybe that has something to do with it.

I'll try putting the drive into an old PIII-850 box I have to see if it works OK with that.
Old Posted: 25-11-2004
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Hi all, I need some advices, please.
I have downloaded both "218btrpc1.rar" file & flashing tool Binflash (Win32 GUI version). But how do I save the old firmware? I have never done any firmware update before. Could somebody tell me how to use the binflash program? Many thanks in advanced.
Old Posted: 25-11-2004
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Necwinflash makes it easy to dump the current firmware and load the new firmware. Its on this page,
http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/

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Old Posted: 25-11-2004
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But the original homepage for this flasher is here *cough*
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Old Posted: 26-11-2004
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hi guys, this is my first post

i'm using 218btrpc1 firmware and binflash gui 1.02 report bitsettig capabilities even to DVD-R and DVD-RW on DVD+R SL and DVD+RW media

is this normal? maybe it's a bug? does it actually work?
never seen such a thing...

tnx

PS: sorry for my poor english
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Old Posted: 26-11-2004
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But the original homepage for this flasher is here *cough*

Ooops sorry bout that! Didn't realise they were the same thing. Liggy, and other FW modders, thanks for all your work with these firmwares, this burner would be almost useless to me without bitsetting ability.

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Old Posted: 26-11-2004
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hi guys, this is my first post
I hope it won't be your last one

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i'm using 218btrpc1 firmware and binflash gui 1.02 report bitsettig capabilities even to DVD-R and DVD-RW on DVD+R SL and DVD+RW media

is this normal? maybe it's a bug? does it actually work?
never seen such a thing...
These values in the drop down box were made intentionally. However I'm not sure if it really works as expected. From looking at the firmware's bitsetting code, I think it will work. But I still need to see results for this.

We will all be happy to see the picture of a DVD+R-DL booktyped to DVD-RW
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Old Posted: 26-11-2004
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I didn't understand how we could make a backup of the original firmware which has the dvdrw before upgrate. Using that necflash.... and pressing dumb.. it copies the original firmware ?

And from its "home' the 3500A doesn't support bitsetting for Dvdr+R? only for Dl ?
Old Posted: 26-11-2004
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But the original homepage for this flasher is here *cough*
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