ND-3500 problems: noisy, shocking images, no dma

I thought I bought a good burner. Unless these problems can be solved, it sucks.

When playing dvd-rom's it is fairly quiet (about the same as my nd1100). On the other hand, it is loud playing movies burned on dvd + or -R. Can this be solved. Firmware = 2.27+
I had the same problem with the nd-1100 in the past, when playing long movies, after about 2:40, image becomes unstable and doesn't run fluently, audio may be a little dissynchronised too. I tried dvd idle but it doesnt seem to work at all because my drive keeps reading all the way.
My hd is on IDE prim as master and my nd1100 is sec slave; nd3500 is sec master. Running nero's infotool, dma doesn't seem to be enabled for the nd1100. I set it to dma if available though. Is this normal? Current status was PIO mode.

Help would be apreciated...

is it enabled in the bios

XP will see it evan if it is not enabled in the bios but will runn it at the lowest spec

Use Nero Drive Speed to limit your reading speed, and all be OK.
NEC 3500 is far the BEST drive today in the market. Almost all the problems are caused by bad hardware configuration/BIOS problems.

Yo-

Could also be a media problem-

I have two 3500's and use Ritek 8x -R's and Taiyo Yuden 8x -R's and 8x +R's without any issues-

Lowest cost and best online resellers are www.rima.com and www.supermediastore.com

Mike

Might want to hook up the other optical to the secondary ide channel as a slave.

You mean, swap both drives?

I am using TY 8x dvd-R media...

I tried nero drive speed, didn't work. I'll restart into bios now and try drive speed again. Why does my nd-1100 spin slow and quiet during dvd playback? Originally it was on sec master.

Master <-> Slave does not play any role. You must put the jumpers on the right place-Master for the master drive and Slave position for the Slave drive. Does not select "Cable select" option. The two drive must work perfectly without any problems- I have master the NEC 3500 and slave-my old Plextor 16/10/40A. When i rip DVD a hear music from my second drive synchronous without any problem. DMA recognition is BIOS/cable/motherboard problems. The BIOS and the motherboard must be able to recognize any peripheral correctly and assign the settings to them too. If the NEC does not take UDMA Mode 2 settings on the IDE chanel, where the drive is attached, this is not the drive problem itself.

Was bios, drives are both on dma now and the jumpers were already ok. Drive speed work to but it keeps resetting it settings after playback and it doesn't work after shutting down. Is there any permanent solution? I also forgot I played that long dvd in th nd-1100 because my nd3500 was so noisy, of course I had the same problem ... duh.
Btw I don't understand why a drive would be spinning faster than it's reading, it always reads at 1x for dvd's and audio cd's right?

No good idea to put on one IDE channel HDD and DVD/CD. Avoid this.
More information about your motherboard, BIOS version and vendor . Do you use Intel Accelerator drivers for the Busmastering? Windows version?

You asked for it (Info was a little big to quote, check attachments please)

My nd1100 dvd-rw is on sec slave, my nd3500 dvd-rw is on sec master. My harddisk is the only drive on prim (master)

I run xp with sp2. Btw, what is busmastering?

You are ready to blame the drive, but you don't know what busmastering is?

Good computer. What is your problem now-the drive is resseting himself after each restart? what you mean by the word- reseting?
Booktype mean which type DVD the disk after the burning recognize himself, some like stamp after the burning-i.e. one DVD+R Disk after burning must recognize himself like DVD+R or like DVD-ROM. If the disk recognize himself like DVD ROM it is easy to be played everywhere. That s why we try to "stamp" on some disk DVD ROM simply because it is easy to play them in comercial DVD Players.

Sorry,
Each IDE channel on your computer has his driver. It is wise to leave the Windows to manage the IDE channels with Windows drivers, instead of installing third part drivers [like Intel Aplication Acceleration drivers].Check on your computer which drivers are installed to manage your IDE channels-Windows drivers, Dell drivers or Intel drivers and we will talk after that again...

Read the Dell manuals online, which drivers Dell recomend to manage their IDE channels-the Windows ones or the Dell ones. Check who is the manufacture of your motherboard and check for upgrades for your computer on the Dell pages.

Chipset 1
Model : Dell Computer Corp 82875P,E7210 Memory Controller Hub

I reformatted my pc a while ago, default drivers are used (microsoft)
I mean the speed goes back to max after shutting down the utility. I would like a permanent solution if possible. There is only one problem left and that's the noise it makes. I'll try reflashing to default firmware tomorrow...

There is no permanent solution-you want drive to be quiet, but you also want unlimited speed on writing on reading -just start the utility when you needed and switch off, if you don`t need

Why does everybody keep saying that the drive is dead silent then? I don't get it...
It should work for me too. Do the drivers matter?

Ahem... great to hear.
Most reports indicate that the Pioneer 108 series are better than the NEC3500 as it has better media support, if not faster write strategies.
Please be more specific why you think it's the best drive on the market.

I did some test and made some conclusions. The drive is ok it is indeed very silent and it's all about the firmware. Of course my system was ok. I flashed back to the original 2.16 from 2.27+ and it is dead silent now during dvd play back. I suppose it had something to do with riplock.

In powerdvd fast forwarding doesn't work like it looks. At 1x drive speed you can set playback to 32x and it will work but it will just skip an amount of frames. When setting the drive to 16x e.g. playback at more than 1x will be more fluently (skipping less frames).

2.16:

Nero drive speed only list reading speed for dvd's at 1x, if I copy a file on a dvd to my hd it does it in real time. By forcing it to read at max I could copy a "*.VOB" file in about 3 min instead of 12. Any type of dvd reads at 1x in powerdvd=can't hear anything from the drive

2.27+: Can't remember for sure but any type of dvd reads faster (about 5, 8x or higher. I don't think it was max speed) IMO that's loud, you can even hear 5x.

*no comment*
*/me falls off my chair laughing @ riplock comment*

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Last edited by debro; 23-11-2004 at 00:56. Reason: Spell Checker: Internal failure. Incorrect function, Memory allocation failure at line 2. >> Malloc word "mpm"

I`m very glad for my choice.
I never use hacked firmware-no need for this. Prefer to wait 50 min to make my movies, instead of jeopardize the quality of my drive.
No need for bitsetting-all drives now are capable to play +R and -R disks. Why to use region free patches, when i just make the disks region free by the DVD Shrink?

Debro->"The trouble with the global village is all the global village idiots."

Aye

Is there any good firmware available without riplock removal or is riplock such a bad feature? I don't need highspeed burning as I said. Perhaps there is other good firmware around. I guess I need it if I want bitsetting so... any help?