ND-3500 burn speed and quality tests

CMCMAGF01 DVD+R 4x burnt at 4x with with NEC3500 FW 2.C7

Not very satisfied indeed...

00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0D 13 .l...@....R.....
00000010 66 78 80 00 03 54 54 47 30 31 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TTG01......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 0F 11 ................

TDK DVD-R 4x burnt at 8x ( 3500@2.C7 )
Scanned ldw-411 FS0K

MCC 02RG20 Burned at 12X (Liggy's beta 7 firmware) 4.2GIG video file

Verbatim branded.

Here are some results of some Fuji DVD+R 8X:
These are YUDEN000T02 discs.

First at 16X:



Kprobe fails to read the end of the discs.
I get "servo error 030900 after lba 231....."

Then a try at 12X:



I find the results a bit dissapointing (PIF is very high, PI is fine), i expected better results of these Yudens.
Maybe i should try a different firmware, my current fw is Herrie's 2.17

Hmmm, did one with the stock 2.16 fw

It seems a lot better.
Also burned at 12X:


I guess with the right fw these discs can be burned perfectly.
I hope the future fw's wil bring more improvement.

TBD 2.f8 Firmware written @ 8x on media: TYG02

HERRIE 2.F8 Firmware written @ 8x on media: TYG02

Verbatim DVD-R MCC-02RG20 8x rated burned at 12x with Harrie´s fw 2.17bs.
4.25Gb movie, transcoded with DVDxCopy burned with Nero Express 6.3.1.25

Not that nice as Dee-27´s above, but still impressive.

Pretty good Kprobe Scan of RICOHJPNR01 (Sold as Ritek on NewEgg for $31.00)

Burned at 8X on NEC 3500 with 2F8 Firmware (bitsetting enabled).

NEC 3500a with Herries 2.17 Firmware (bitsetting enabled)
Taiyo Yuden 4x +R @8x [YUDEN000-T01-001]
Scanned With Plextor 712A v 1.05, Plextools Pro 2.16, BURST mode, Accuracy set to Good
4.37GB Data Disc
Note: red lines are POE; blue lines are PIE (see the txt file)

Sorry, I do not have a LiteOn Drive to K-Probe (Isn't that what aliens do? )

Feel free to throw objects (blank discs would be nice) at me if your not interested in plex scans.

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Last edited by Skith; 28-09-2004 at 07:25. Reason: added something again...sheesh, I edit alot

this drive is cool!!

NEC 3500A , FW 2.17 based on MADDOG
Ritek The One (ricohjpn02) DVD+R ,8@8

New CD-R scan with NEC / IODATA 2.27 firmware.

Bought a 50pcs spindle of TDK CD blanks (never seen them before, light blue-ish colour) at a local retailer today, and to my surprise they are made by good old Mitsui. And another surprise was that the NEC ND-3500 allows me to burn them at 48x speed.


TDK CD-Rs, 52x rated, burned at 48x (max.):




Plextools 2.16 C1/C2/CU Scan with Plextor Premium drive:






Pretty good result considering the speed they were burned at, and the fact that Mitsui is definitely not as high quality as they used to be in the good old days of CD burning (Mitsui Gold discs). Since CD-R write strats haven't changed much with the newer firmwares, the NEC ND-3500 should burn these discs at 48x with stock firmware also. Recommended CD media for highest speed burning.

08 02 00 00 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 D7 FF .............%..
00 00 00 00 00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 .......MCC.....0
30 33 00 38 23 54 37 12 02 42 6E 02 A8 6B 15 15 03.8#T7..Bn..k..
0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................


Sold as Verbatim 12x DVD+R ( but only 8x max speed available )
Burnt at 8x with 3500 ( 2.27 )

This is my first post here... be gentle. Thanks to all, I'm happy with the drive.

Hi,

here a scan from a really crappy media, Code: "AN31" labeled Primeon DVD-R 4x

Burned with 4x FW v2.27

Verbatim DL (MKM001) burnt @2.4 with Decrypter, using NEC/IODATA 2.27 firmware (auto bitseting enabled).

Disc Type DVD+R DL
Book Type DVD-ROM
Manufacturer Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Media ID MKM001
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 7.30 GB
Layer 0 Capacity 3.65 GB
Free Size 0.00 GB
Free Blocks 0
Number of Layers 2
Track Path OTP
Linear Density 0.293 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 11.2x
Maximum Write Speed 2.4x
Current Write Speed 2.4x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 2.4x CLV

At least i was able to find Taiyo Yuden also here...

Sold as Maxell DVD-R 4x burnt at 8x

00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0D 13 .j...@....R.....
66 78 80 00 03 54 59 47 30 31 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG01......
00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 06 08 0F 11 ................

Hi this is my first post here at CD Freaks, since I recently purchased a NEC ND-3500AG I thought I would join everyone in the NEC Forum showing their support and sharing their writing results with different media and firmware. First off I would like to thank Herrie, Liggy, TDB, and everyone adding unofficial firmware support for this great drive.

Drive Details
_NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG 2.C8041004_RITEK_DL_4X
no Rip Lock and RPC1 [Auto Bitsetting]

I Used a RiTEK G05 RiDATA Label Retail DVD-R Disc Media Code
00000000 00 AA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 86 0E 11 .....@....R.....
00000010 98 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 35 00 .....RITEKG..05.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 ................

Media Information

Media code/Manufacturer ID RITEKG05
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps

The results of this disc seem to be pretty good especially with this firmware, the disc appears to be from a good batch. In some post I have read that the Ritek G05's were not as good as G04's and there were a lot of complaints on fake TY media being sold as RiTEKG05 discs, but these results are in some way inconclusive, I wish I could PI/PIF scan these on a Plextor DVD Writer for more accurate results. They look like good discs so I'm happy.

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Last edited by XND1n01h; 14-10-2004 at 11:31.

Scans of NEC 3500AG firmware 2.17


1. tdk 4x media
2. aml 002 media
3. verbatim 16x dvd+r (mcc004)
4. Yuden000T02

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Last edited by pigpenz; 15-10-2004 at 20:36. Reason: for graphics

Another CD-R scan with the new TDB 2C8 firmware.

Got these Philips 52x discs from a local retailer, priced 8.99 EUR a 50pcs spindle (~18 Cents a disc). The ND-3500A really seems to like these Ritek A grade discs.


Philips CD-Rs, 52x rated, burned at 48x (max.):




Plextools 2.17 C1/C2/CU Scan with Plextor Premium drive:






Another very good result. If you want cheap CD blanks that burn at 48x with the NEC ND-3500A, buy some Ritek (A grade) discs.

which software do you use to burn yorur dvds. Is this an external drive. I tried using a DVD+R and the drive would'nt recognize it? Can you help me out. How did you set up your dvd burner. please help

s0lar, do you get different (read nicer) scan results now you have switched from a 811s to a 1213s@1633? I saw your ricoh jpnr02 scans earlier in this thread and they looked familiar to me (I also have a 811s). Besides I noticed in this thread that scans made by a 411s or 811s often show a pattern of an increasing number of errors towards the end.

Plextor YUDEN 8x+R @ 16x TDK 2C8 which contains the updated strat for YUDEN 8x+R media:

If only i didnt get those spikes of 7 at AOPC points.

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Last edited by SirQUK; 27-10-2004 at 01:09. Reason: Uploaded Transfer Test on NEC 3500

Hello fellow cd-freaks from all over the world!
I come from Athens/Greece and I am a rookie, so please be easy on me !
This afternoon I bought a NEC ND-3500AG after reading carefully a lot of articles and reviews that you have posted here, for several DVD-burners, in various forums. I think I did a right choise. I intended to buy PX-716A but after seeing all these in Plextor forum and knowing what price it will be available in Greece I decided against it.
I did my first burn and I am attaching the corresponding jpg's. I would like your opinion on these (rookie, don't forget) and your advice to why I can not execute the disc quality test in Nero CD-DVD Speed. No option for the start button-see jpg. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanking you in advance for your time and...understanding!

Here are my recent scans made by Liteon 401@811s. Discs were burned at 4x speed.
NEC 3500 2.27 plus, booktype set to dvd-rom

1. AN32
2. Verbatim MCC01RG20