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Old Posted: 28-08-2004
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Old Posted: 28-08-2004
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I noted that there's an extra speed step-down near the end, compared to the one I burned with 2.16. I can't say if this is FW difference or normal variation between burns. The total time was not affected much.

there certianly appears to be some gain in burn quality.





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Old Posted: 28-08-2004
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Again I see a speed step-down at the end, but total time is hardly affected.
Burn quality remains excellent.



Old Posted: 28-08-2004
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Doing a little beta testing with a strat swap for T01/01, it's using the T03 strat in this burn. What's interesting is the slow-down, the drive shifted from CAV to Z-CLV , which we have not seen before. As you can see, the burn quality remained high, so whatever the drive is doing, it's doing it well.



Old Posted: 29-08-2004
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The cd-dvd curve looks superb; but what with the kprobe scan, very odd.
This one took 7m 09. Funny what more ddram and defragmentation can do.
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File Type: png RICOHJPN R02 DVD+R 8X NEC 3500A (2.4).PNG (11.6 KB, 1998 views)
File Type: png RICOHJPN R02 DVD+R 12X NEC 3500A GRAPH.PNG (28.1 KB, 2005 views)
Old Posted: 29-08-2004
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Memorex DVD+R 4x rated Moser Baer India Limited, MBIPG101R03 @4X [on FW 2.16]
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Old Posted: 29-08-2004
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As I recall, R02 burned at 8x only in 2.16, so this is a nice improvement.



Old Posted: 29-08-2004
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Again, graph seems good, kprobe stinks... But plays perfect in dvdplayer.
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File Type: png RICOHJPN R02 DVD+R 12X NEC 3500A BURN.PNG (28.5 KB, 1926 views)
File Type: png RICOHJPN R02 DVD+R 12X NEC 3500A GRAPH 811S.PNG (29.0 KB, 1917 views)
File Type: png RICOHJPN R02 DVD+R 12X NEC 3500A (3).PNG (11.8 KB, 1911 views)
Old Posted: 29-08-2004
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I'm starting to doubt my 811s his kprobe scans.
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Old Posted: 30-08-2004
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ND 3500A 2.17 ProDisc F01 @ 8X
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Old Posted: 30-08-2004
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ND3500A 2.17 Prodisc F01 @ 8X
I scanned this with my "old" sohw 832s with KProbe
Probably the best I have done with this media, Prodisc F01 @ 8x
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This is the the Fujifilm made in Taiwan.




Old Posted: 31-08-2004
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DVD+R: RICOHJPN-R01-002 burned at 8X with the new (SL) bitsetting firmware 2F8
= CD/DVDSpeed test.
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Old Posted: 31-08-2004
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DVD+R: MCC003-000 burned at 8X with the new (SL) bitsetting firmware 2F8.
Verbatim DataLifePlus 8X rated. Who said this media is bad...? Not on NEC-3500!
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Old Posted: 31-08-2004
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Old Posted: 01-09-2004
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ProdiscR03 +R (Datawrite branded) Burned on the ND-3500AG at 8X (TDB MD 2.F8 firmware) Scanned on Liteon 1213S @ Sony DRU 710A (BY01 firmware)

I would think it's fair to say both drives are running very sweet and this media batch is pretty good
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Old Posted: 01-09-2004
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This time its Taiyo Yuden (YUDEN000T02) That's branded. Burned on the ND-3500AG at 16X

A good enough burn i think
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Old Posted: 02-09-2004
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A CD-R scan with the new Herrie 2.17 firmware.

Verbatim Pastel Taiyo Yuden CD-Rs, 48x rated (ATIP Code: 97m24s01f)


Nero CD-DVD Speed 3.21 create disc (doesn't seem to go higher than 32x):




Plextools 2.16 C1/C2/CU Scan with Plextor Premium drive:






Good results, roughly the same the Plextor Premium produces. I had better Taiyo Yuden CD-Rs in the past tho, with C1 averages of only 0.3.
Old Posted: 02-09-2004
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Ricoh JPNR01 (TDK Branded) burned at 8x using herries 2.17 fw bitset to DVD-ROM

media code: ( '>' taken out before the g because it messes with html)
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0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 52 49 43 4f 48  4a 50 4e 52 30 31 02 38   ...RICOHJPNR01.8
0020 : 23 54 37 09 00 3c 67 00  ac 62 16 18 0b 0b 0a 0b   #T7...g..b......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0b 0b 0e 0f 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
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Old Posted: 04-09-2004
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R-DL:MKM-001-000]
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Disc Type : [DVD+R DL]
Manufacturer ID : [MKM]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Kagaku Media]
Media Type ID : [001]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x]
Blank Disc Capacity : [4,173,824 Sectors = 8,152.0MB = 7.96GB (8.55GB)]

God I love this burner. 7.8 GB movie burned at 4x on 2.4x media; auto bitset to ROM and great quality.

Old Posted: 04-09-2004
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BeAll G40001 branded Samsung dvd-r 4x burned @ 4x

OPTODISC OR4 branded Samsung dvd+4 4x burned @ 4x

OPTODISC OR4 branded Samsung dvd+r 4x burned @ 4x readgraph:

PRODISCS03 branded Eproformance 4x burned @ 4x

TYG01 branded Verbatim dvd-r 4x burned @ 8x

VDSPMSAB 01 branded Sky dvd-r 4x burned @ 4x
Old Posted: 04-09-2004
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MCC002 branded Verbatim dvd+r 4x burned @ 4x
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Same movie as in the 4x test above, burned at 2.4x
Old Posted: 04-09-2004
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Ritek R03 @ 4X using
NEC ND_3500AG Herrie's 2.17 w/ bitsetting set to ROM.
Thanks Herrie
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Old Posted: 04-09-2004
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Here is a couple more scans using Ritek G05@8x and G04@4X
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