Liggy & Dee NEC ND-3540 Modified Firmware V 1.W5 results & support thread

Which +R?

So here is RITEK R03-002 burned at 8x
Scanned with LiteOn SOHW-1693S
Transfer rate with LiteOn SOHD-167T

To Dee-27

Just got 20 RICOHJPN D00 Dual Layer media. So I can test them.
In 1.W1 they are 2.4x speed.

Here is the media code



** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : e1 0f 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 fc ff ff 00 22 d7 ff ..2.........."..
0010 : 00 00 00 52 49 43 4f 48 4a 50 4e 44 30 30 01 40 ...RICOHJPND00.@
0020 : 25 25 37 11 00 34 64 00 34 64 20 21 0c 0d 12 12 %7..4d.4d !....
0030 : 02 01 01 10 00 20 21 0c 0d 12 12 02 00 00 00 00 ..... !.........
0040 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0050 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0060 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0100 : 00 00 ..

I have noticed an annoying trend on my burns. A PIF spike where the speed of the burn increases. Any idea why?

I just burned another disc from the same spindle at the same speed and this time it does not put the spikes in the same place so I guess it's not regular as I thought. But those high spikes are ruining my quality score and not giving me a smooth read curve on the transfer test. Are those high spikes really anything to worry about?



BTW I had Nero Drivespeed running during the previous burn. I don't know if that has any effect on the burn at all.

Strange story, I went to the shop (only shop in town NEC writer sales) where they know me as Forum visitor and Website owner, (here I bought my 3520 too) and ask if they have the 3540 already, a young boy said he must look (in the room behind the shop,) then after a 5 minutes there comes
the guy who knew me, and asked me if I wouldn't let the pleople know if the 3540 is there ready for sale? I asked him why, because he wasn't allow start the sale already today!
So that's keeping them so long not available! He will give me a call when somwhere next week if the sales start.
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Please can anyone explain the following to me?

My new 3540:
With standard 101 FW brand new disc 8x Fuji(ID:Yuden000 T02) burnt at16x

Then with mod. 1.W1 FW brand new disc 8x(ID:Yuden 000 T02) burnt at16x
(both scanned and transfer at 3540 resp.FW 101/1.W1

>>>>IS THIS STANDARD 101 BETTER THAN 1.W1? <<<<
latest (third scan is the 16x burn at(FW101) scanned on 3540 with FW 1.W1

http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/3540101stats.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/3540101qscan.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/3540101transfer.jpg

http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/35401w1stats.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/35401w1qscan.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/35401w1transfer.jpg

http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/...ats101burn.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/...can101burn.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/...fer101burn.jpg

Harry

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Last edited by HardwareHarry; 19-05-2005 at 05:38.

@Dee do you know this batch?
BATCH TG001159 FujiFilm ID:Yuden000 T02

** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 0038 ...YUDEN000T02.8
0020 : 23 54 37 10 02 4e 72 02 8c 63 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a #T7..Nr..c......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 ..88.4c.."".....
0050 : 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0e 12 12 01 00 00 ...4c.."".......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 4e 64 4a 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 ..Tp.NdJ .......
0070 : 00 00 02 67 64 4e 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 ...gdN ........0
_______________________________________________________________
Dee your strategy code...
59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 01 -> [YUDEN000T02 ] 2.4 4.0 6.0 8.0 12.0 16.0
59 55 44 45 4e 30 30 30 54 30 32 01 01 -> [YUDEN000T02 ] 2.4 4.0 6.0 8.0 12.0 16.0

RICOHJPN D00

The first DL burn with my 3540

Not the cleanest DL burn but readable I would guess

CMC MAG E01(e-blue Branded)

Hmm, I've seen better results....
Platinum 8x DVD+R @12x (RICOHJPN R02)

Another burn from same ISO file.
CMC MAG E01 blank label.

Hi Michel,
So here's RICOHJPN R02 sold here in Estonia as Platinium +R 8x

EDIT!!!
Burned with CopyToDVD ver 3.0.54.106
DVD-Video

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Last edited by Juhuslik; 20-05-2005 at 00:29.

Please can anyone explain the following to me?

My new 3540:
With standard 101 FW brand new disc 8x Fuji(ID:Yuden000 T02) burnt at16x

Then with mod. 1.W1 FW brand new disc 8x(ID:Yuden 000 T02) burnt at16x
(both scanned and transfer at 3540 resp.FW 101/1.W1

>>>>IS THIS STANDARD 101 BETTER THAN 1.W1? <<<<
latest (third scan is the 16x burn at(FW101) scanned on 3540 with FW 1.W1

PNG Pong doesn't work properly! I used PNG files, so now back to my server...

It stuck by my attachments and freezes...

Harry

http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/3540101stats.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/3540101qscan.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/3540101transfer.jpg

http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/35401w1stats.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/35401w1qscan.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/35401w1transfer.jpg

http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/...ats101burn.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/...can101burn.jpg
http://www.hardwarexpo.net/graphics/...fer101burn.jpg

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Last edited by HardwareHarry; 20-05-2005 at 02:26.

HardwareHarry:
As I see it 1.w1 is a tiny bit better than 1.01.. little lower PIE, little lower PIF. But it could be due to media variation. Transfer rate is perfect on both scans.

BTW.. why don't you attach the scans to the post?

The documentation is slightly out of date (+R modified table) YUDEN000T02, RITEKR04 and MCC004 should not be listed in the modified table as they for the moment use the stock write strats. I will update the docs at the weekend.

1.W1 however does use a later revision of the base firmware 1.01 dated 08/04/2005 whereas the original 1.01 base firmware that was supplied with the early production drives were dated 24/03/2005.
This could account for slight variations in your burns HardwareHarry. Or as Quikee states, just slight variations with the media.

Thank you Quikee, I did now this day 5 times diiferent scans, and back to FW 1.01 and then again FW 1.W1, so I noticed that the stability of the drive to scan varies with only the two discs I used, so it's not a problem for me,
I'm glad I have a reasonable reader now and the discs both play smoothly on all my players and at my friends players(also 3520 did)
But with the posting of the PNG files that procedure stuck and freezes, also my system locked... and only could reset!
But I'm aware that I'm on the edge of 8x>16x and with reasonable quality!
I have also SONY's(D11) at 16x, so I have no great problems.
This first disc burned at FW1.01 scanned slightly different on 1.01 and the disc burned on 1.W1 also does on FW 1.W1 so the drive isn't constant!
And it looks like in the first scans that the 1.01 looks better than the 1.W1
burn.
That's what I wanted to see you all !

Greetings Harry (all by all I'm a glad man)

@Dee,

You make my day, like I was dreaming if only Dee could read my story...

Thanks, it was a reason after all.

Harry

@Juhuslik (Estonia), glad you get a 3540 earlier than me....

Yesterday I got mine,(my writer was manufactured in APRIL05) although the shop-owner told me that he may not sell them already, but next week! I payed 59euro, very nice price (my 3520 cost me 79.-) nice to see you around here

Harry

Hi Harry,

Mine from Euromaxi(www.euromaxi.nl) and the price was 49.50€
Actually I was disturbing Michel aka ScorpioSoft too. I still hope that he can help me to get BENQ DW1640.
The strange thing is that Plextor PX-740 will be available here in 31.05.2005.

@Dee,

Will the next firmware from you be based on the I-O Data 1.21 firmware? The write strategies are almost the same but the I-O Data has auto bitsetting from itself....

@Juhuslik,

Actually the Plextor 740 is a Benq rebadge, that's why that model is so fast on the market...Plextor Co.Japan isn't that big a factory, more R&D and lately they let the Chinese do the manufacturing.(The Chinese even manufacturing or assembling the Olympus lenses for the (Pro)E300, so they must be doing a good job)
And now Plextor get Benq do the work.

I don't understand this time the 3540 was first on sale in UK, earlier models from NEC was distributing all over Europe the same time.(as far as I know)

Harry

1.W2 certainly won't, as work on that version is already underway.
Both Liggy and myself prefer the manual (set and forget) booktype settings we have at the moment, and it seems to be working very well.

The 3540 continues to impress me with its burn quality. Good media burns really well in this drive

Here is a RICOH JPNR02 at 16X. These are RICOH's own branded discs and very good quality. 12X burning of course is still possible but will use a CAV write strategy which may help those who are finding this MID doesn't burn to well at 12X at the moment.
Scanned with NEC and Liteon drives.

E.T.A. 1.W2 (this weekend)