Cross flashing slimline ND-6100A to ND-6500A in DELL Latitude D610

I have a DELL Latitiude D610 with a slimline ND-6100A with 104D firmware.
I want to be able to burn DVD-R media, and thus want to cross flash this to a ND-6500A (FAST)

I can read the original firmware okay using binflash (-dump) but can't seem to cross flash it.

The output from binflash and some device info is listed below.
FYI: I'm using Linux.

Binflash - NEC version - (C) by Herrie and Liggy
Visit http://binflash.cdfreaks.com - http://www.herrie.org

List of supported devices:

Device : /dev/sg1
Vendor : _NEC
Model : DVD+RW ND-6100A
Firmware : 104D


#cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: ATA Model: Hitachi HTS54106 Rev: MB3O
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: _NEC Model: DVD+RW ND-6100A Rev: 104D
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 05

Flashing

./necflash -s -v -flash /tmp/bt/223bt_fast.bin /dev/sg1
Binflash - NEC version - (C) by Herrie and Liggy
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Identified drive: 3
Detected drive from Firmware: 3

Probably mixing up master and slave firmware.
This is very likely to DAMAGE your drive or make it INACCESSIBLE!
It is not allowed to continue here. If you really think you have to and know what you are doing, please ask for a personal Binflash build
Firmware is for a different drive


I haven't been able to find detailed information on the "reverse" firmware, so don't want to try those just yet.
What is reverse firmware... and why would I need it? Can I get a 5100@5500 "reverse" firmware.

I've also tried booting from a DOS Usb key and using the TDB flasher.... similar resutls

Thanks in advance!!
Niall

Please post some info about this attempt.
How far went it? What was the error etc?

This error message is caused by an additional check in Binflash. It checks if the first letter of the old firmware (1 in your case) matches the first letter of the new firmware (2 in your case).
If it doesn't match it refuses to flash your drive. Please supply me your eMail address in a PM and I'll try to supply you with a special Binflash build that does not have this check. (I guess you like to get a Linux version again)

Liggy sent me a special build of binflash.
I was able to use the 223bt firmware as its a master drive.

It worked a treat....

Thanks guys!

Niall

Hi; I'm tired to try upgrade my NEC ND-6450A in my laptop Compaq Presario R3375EA (http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...445690&os=228).

When I contact with HP; they say me this: "We do not have a specific r elease date for this, however, they should be available for download as soon as possible .Please keep frequently visiting the following web site to check the availability: http://www.hp.com/country/us/en/support.html [....] In this situation I recommend you wait for the update or contact the manufacturer NEC for further assistance or buy a new drive which is compatible to use the DVD-R at 16 X."

Then I'm writting a e-mail to NEC; and this is he's answer: "Please contact your system builder for the latest firmware updates. The ND-6450A is an OEM drive manufactured specifically for system builders. The firmware for this drive is supplied by the system builder and not NEC."

Also I try found the solution in this forum, but I'm dowloaded so many firmwares, flashers adn utilities; but I still with my problem; I can't use my DVD-R 16X (Philips).

When I try this: necflash -scan , this is the result:

Binflash - NEC version - (C) by Herrie and Liggy
Visit http://binflash.cdfreaks.com - http://www.herrie.org
List of supported devices:
No supported devices found

Thefore when I try upload any firmware file (i.e.: necflash -flash -v -s 458_orig.bin e:), the result it's:

Binflash - NEC version - (C) by Herrie and Liggy
Visit http://binflash.cdfreaks.com - http://www.herrie.org
Identified drive: 3
Detected drive from Firmware: 3
Probably mixing up master and slave firmware.
This is very likely to DAMAGE your drive or make it INACCESSIBLE!
It is not allowed to continue here. If you really think you have to and know what you are doing, please ask for a personal Binflash build
ID from drive: 86, ID from firmware: 85
Firmware is for a different drive

Please; what I need to do more?; where it's my problem?, why I can't update this firmware?

Thank you very match for your help

The firmware you are trying to flash is for a slave device while your drive is currently set to master. Continueing here would break your drive.

Hi Liggy.

Any chance you could send that firmware my way too, just gotten a NEC ND-6100A 1.04D (Dell too) for a Latitude D410. I asume I need the 2.XXX firmware too, however not sure on the master/slave of drive, because Dell for some (no doubt cheap) reason hook these drives up VIA USB even when it's internal in a dock/mediabay. So would the 2.XXX be the one to use? Guessing the 4.XXX is the slave one.

Thanks

EDIT, running Windows (xp)

Ignore above, all done, found a TDB firmware that would load on a 1.04D and then flashed again with your (Liggy) 224bt_rpc1.bin, all good.

Darn, forgot to thank you Liggy and TDB of course, hereby done.

Hi Liggy. I have that problem. How can I change my drive from Master to Slave in order to apply your firmware to it?

Thanks in advance
--
Patricio

If the drive is currently recognized by your laptop you should NOT try to change this setting as it's very likely that the drive won't be recognized anymore after changing.

If your drive is not recognized, you will either need a laptop that recognizes your drive or a slimline IDE adapter and a desktop PC. All the tools that are required can be found on my ND-6500A page.