1.07 v2 Dual Layer Bitsetting Beta 5

hi. im currently using the stock 1.06 firmware. i dont have any DL discs. should i just use Beta 4 or is Beta 5 better??

Both are fine Beta 5 has some more media @ 8x again

Why not ? I guess this is exactly what many of us did upon the yesterday release.

okay. cool , thanks for your help Herrie!

As Herrie knows, I was getting probs with +RW media with both Nero 6 and Recordnow 6. I tried reflashing my drive with both stock and patched fw's, to no avail. I then reinstalled Recordnow DX 4.61 and it worked a treat. It would only burn Ritek 4x -R's @ 6x, but I used Nero for these @ 8x instead. No problems. It appears that the engines that Nero and Recordnow 6 are using may be partly to blame for this problem too.

can you guys show me the link on step by step on how to set a dvd+r media to a dvd-rom booktype? Am kinda confused on how to do it.. Thanks

Why won't someone do a sticky read first bitsetting and firmware thread?
This thread is already three pages with the same usual questions about "how to bit set", "Why would I flash and which one" and "is it safe to flash this way or the other"...

I understand why these questions comes up to peoples minds when they read these threads. I had those questions in my head once. I just think that the forum would look tidier and cleaner (with happier readers) if these questions would make a sticky must read for new people on this forum.
I know that the "NEC FAQ and troubleshooting guide" answers many of these questions. But maybe there would be a thread dedicated to bitsetting and one explaining the flashing process?

If there would be less questions that has been answered millions of times here. Herrie and others would get more time to make the firmware even better instead of reading and answering the same stuff over and over again.

Just my two cents of complaining :-)

Celoe
Usually when people complain about burning bad disks or getting "duds", it seems to me 4x more likely they say it's -.

Now if we could just get people to READ those stickies! But if someone wants to write a tutorial for bitsetting with the NEC, we'll be glad to use it.

The real issue here is off-topic posting. If folks would post a topic in it's own thread, it would be easy for others to find and benefit from.

Using your firmwares they have been great mate to be honest, i am not bothered about the speed of the burn as the quality of it at 2.4X is spot on. as it is a redundant dye now there is no point trying to improve it mate i wouldnt have thought as stocks of the discs that use it must now be all but sold out everywhere.

I have used Kprobe form its first version but as i only have a Liteon DVD-ROM drive i can only compare results with my own discs burnt on previous firmwares.

Willingly. It's much closer than you think
and was posted just a couple of hours ago > setting the booktype

I'm very new to this whole DVD thing. I tend to learn quick though. Bought my first DVD drive last night which is a Pacific Digital 8X+ 8X-. After looking through the drive a bit its actually the NEC 2500A. So here I am. I flashed the drive with this codec and used the DVD-r's i had picked up at Walmart.

Sony DVD-R rated up to 4x which Herrie listed this brand SONY04D as capable of burning up to 8x. I ran a speed trasnfer test in nero and here is an image. THey actually made it up to 8.3x and averaged 6.79x

Total Time: 9:22

Now since I am new I'm not sure if this is good or bad. Is this the correct way to test the disk & speed.

Thanks!

Your test looks fine! But this is for burning. You can do the same test for a burned disc, in order to see if it reads the DVD back OK!

Yes, all is correct.

Glad to know I pick up learning this fast. I'm not sure if I should post this here so please forgive me in advanced. If you have links to this info in a nother part of the forum please let me know.

Few questions popped up in my mind.

WIll programs like DVDXCOpy and others work using the 4X up to 8X on a straight rip/copy or is there a nother type of program I should use?

If this is the case is this due to the bit rate setting.

So to run an actual burn of the DVD should I gather up 4gigs of files and try running it nero and seeing how it all comes back. Or a ripped movie.

Thanks!

I have just tried a burn with B5 and although the burn was excellant the Nec will not read the G04 disk beyond the 1st Gb. This has been happening on each occasion when I have tried an 8x burn using B4, Herriestock and now b5. The disk code is as follows:

00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 96 0E 14 .j...@....R.....
00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 52 49 54 45 4B 47 00 04 30 34 00 .....RITEKG..04.
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 ................
00000030 86 67 80 00 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 19 0A .g..............

The disks read perfectly with my Toshiba DVD ROM and on my player. They have also been tried in a neighbour's machine. I have been trying to work out why this may be happening. I can only assume that the disk is spinning too fast for the burner to make sufficient impression on the dye. I am sure someone on the forum will know the reason for this.

Al burns at 4x are perfect.

best regards and many thanks for the hard work.

Tabriz

i hope im not being dim here....

i have just burned some crappy longten at 8x.... seemed to go ok they previously burned at 6x fine with 106b7

when i do a speed read with dvdinfo i used to get a gradually increasing speed.... now with the latest firmware.... i get a flat read rate and a decreasing rpm line?

is this something to do with a riplock? i have tested the speed with a freshly burned dvd backup.

apologies if im being stupid.... also if it is riplocked... will you be releasing riplock free version of this Herrie?

By the way thanks for the great effort in all of these... it really does put NEC to shame!

I had the exact same problem yesterday. I ended up closing all my programs, rebooting, and then the next time I did the test it looked normal and turned out to be a good burn. Weird. Nice to know it wasn't just me though.

hmmm strange.... i have just done the same in nero cd speed.... and its fine! thanks for the reply raw!

herrie they seem to burn great as shown by the cd speed below!

media info is.....

00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 F7 0E 0B .j...@....R.....
00000010 77 88 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 w.p.............
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 AA A2 22 22 20 01 00 06 0B 0F 12 ......."" ......

any ideas? i thought they were longtons.... they are infiniti branded cheap as you can get disks. £13.99 for 50!

First of all i like to thank Herrie and everybody else who has put work into the firmware (by testing etc) THANKS GUYS !!
DVD+R DL is just great Even through it will be a very long time before i actually will burn one it has a high l33tness factor

Anyway, i was just browsing through the liteon forum... they did some really nice things in this thread: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=96288

Now, please don't shoot me for asking... but would this also be possible for the ND2500??
I mean, it would be really nice to shorten the 4x and 6x part so it quickly starts writing @8x.
It would shorten burn time for a whole dvd to around 8min

I think since anything else has already be done for the nec burner, this would be the last real challence to crack

Keep up the great work!!

PS: Look the 2 images to see what i mean:
Before:

After:

anyone with knowledge on my problems with the nec:

the last couple of 8x burns on a ricohjn01 disc, i got a slight pause around the 20-30 min mark when playing on my sony NS425P. is it the disc or the machine, or the burner?

also, my last two dual layer (pressed discs) rips with DVDdecrypter were horrible. over 30 mins to rip 8GB! but only 6-8 mins to rip a single layer disc. what gives?

Well. I dunno what's up with my drive or media. Tried this firmware and same results as before it seems. Burned a Prodisc R02 @ 8x and as soon as it gets to the 6x portion of the burn in CD Speed it does exactly what the Fujifilm 03's do. The read speed drops right back and it takes ages to read the disc. I also tested Fujifilm 03's again just doing a straight DVD video image burn from DVD Decryptor and got the same problem at the 6x mark.

I get perfect burns on MCC01's though @ 8x most of the time. A smoothish CD Speed curve and no errors.

I think my drive calibration must be different to everyone elses (Or the drive is faulty). Or I am just unlucky with the media. 4x burns on the Prodisc R02's and Fujifilm 03's seem fine. Just not 6x or 8x (I'm sure it's the 6x that screws the discs).

Grumbles somewhat... :P

did the dual layer discs have copy protection? how about the single layer? When I rip DVD Movies in my SD-1712 (no speed hacks) it takes about 20-30 mins to rip in DVD Decrypter.

Well update with this new firmware

Burnt a DVD-Movie on to a Memorex DVD+RW 4x with nero burning rom newest version. All wen't well.

Then ran nero cd/dvd speed



can anyone tell me if this is good or not ?

Cheers,

Chris

Looks OK