1.07 v2 Dual Layer Bitsetting Beta 5

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NEC / Optiarc Writer Discuss, 1.07 v2 Dual Layer Bitsetting Beta 5 at CD and DVD Writers forum; I've found recordnow doesn't like to do the first burn with bitsetting firmwares. Try Nero for 1 burn, then try recordnow again. It's wierd, but it works for me.

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sarahjh69 (CDFreaks Resident)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
I've found recordnow doesn't like to do the first burn with bitsetting firmwares. Try Nero for 1 burn, then try recordnow again.
It's wierd, but it works for me.
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I Have Piles (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0E 15 .j...@....R.....
00000010 98 9A 90 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 .....CMC MA..G.
00000020 41 46 31 00 05 CC C0 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 10 11 AF1.............

Now has very high errors for me and is unreadable in my Liteon 165 drive
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Herrie (Firmware Patcher)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
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00000000 00 6A 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0E 15 .j...@....R.....
00000010 98 9A 90 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 00 04 47 2E 20 .....CMC MA..G.
00000020 41 46 31 00 05 CC C0 00 00 00 01 00 06 0B 10 11 AF1.............

Now has very high errors for me and is unreadable in my Liteon 165 drive
Copied 1:1 from 107v2 Beta 4. I didn't change anything, so maybe you have a bad disc?
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yvliew (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
I've just update to Beta 5. On the scan i get error.. Using 8x and same media. Problems?? I also tried Beta 4 burn at 8x. beatiful graph,.. attached the scan.
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mob (New on Forum)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
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Please post your results! Set the booktype with DVDInfoPro and burn with RecordNow Max!

You always say to set the booktype, can you explain to a newbie what that means?

And why can't we burn with burning software other than recordnow max?

Thanks.
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super vegeta ss (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
I use ImgTool (for burning) and bitsetting works on all my +R & +RW DVD's. Just use DVDINFO PRO to set the booktype (it's located by clicking on one of the icons in the program, super easy).
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yvliew (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Can you set booktype after burning the DVD-R? I tried it, don't seems to work..
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commissioner (New on Forum)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
the last couple of 8x burns on a ricohjn01 disc, i got a slight pause around the 20-30 min mark when playing on my sony NS425P. is it the disc or the machine, or the burner?

also, my last two dual layer (pressed discs) rips with DVDdecrypter were horrible. over 30 mins to rip 8GB! but only 6-8 mins to rip a single layer disc. what gives?
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OC-Freak (Retired Senior Admin)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
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Can you set booktype after burning the DVD-R? I tried it, don't seems to work..
Booktype setting is for DVD+R and DVD+RW. Not DVD-R and DVD-RW.
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You always say to set the booktype, can you explain to a newbie what that means?
Check this out > 107v2b4 & booktype in DVDInfoPro2.50

Otherwise, DVDInfoPro > Help > NEC BookType Bitsetting
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Celo (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Booktype setting is for DVD+R and DVD+RW. Not DVD-R and DVD-RW.
So why people don't choose DVD-R or DVD-RW instead "+"? I am a newbie too.
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So why people don't choose DVD-R or DVD-RW instead "+"? I am a newbie too.
Well, + is a better format in my opinion. and a + disc written with "DVD-ROM" book type is more compatible than a DVD-R disc too - at least to my experience.
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Well, + is a better format in my opinion. and a + disc written with "DVD-ROM" book type is more compatible than a DVD-R disc too - at least to my experience.
Frankly, I thought about the DVD-Rom being more compatible and people buying "+" for that reason but still don't understand how can you tell "+" is better? Do they have less error rate, better picture quality on movies (doubt you can tell though), etc?
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Copied 1:1 from 107v2 Beta 4. I didn't change anything, so maybe you have a bad disc?
Ill try another mate but i tried a Ritek R01 and that came out rubbish as well, both are great using V2 beta 4. i have now run out of other media to try apart from these 2 so i think i may have a duff drive, i bought mine within a week of it coming to the UK market so its a very early one.
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So why people don't choose DVD-R or DVD-RW instead "+"?
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Can bitsetting make DVD+R more compatible than DVD-R?

A great debate continues over which is the "most compatible" recordable DVD format -
DVD+R or DVD-R?

Most studies seem to show that under "normal conditions" the two formats are about equal and that something like 80-90% of modern DVD players can handle them, if the DVD's are encoded and burned properly . DVD-RW and DVD+RW generally have lower compatiblity rates and really should only be used for internal purposes such as previewing DVD projects on players you know can handle RW DVD's.

But, DVD+R is able take advantage of the not-so-well known "bitsetting," also called "bit setting," "bit mode compatibility," "compatiblity bitsetting" and probably some names I haven't heard of yet.

Whatever you call it, bitsetting is a process that changes the identity of a DVD+R disk as seen by DVD players .
DVD-R disks have information embedded in them which identifies them to players as DVD-R.
Replicated DVD's (ones that have been stamped rather than burned) are identified as DVD-ROM.
DVD+R disks have no such embedded identity and, using certain DVD burners, it is possible to make the DVD+R disks identify themselves as DVD-ROM .

Certain older DVD players will not load DVD-R or DVD+R disks at all because those formats did not even exist when the player's firmware was written. However, by changing the bitsetting on a DVD+R to DVD-ROM, those players should be able to load and play the DVD+R.

HP DVD+R drives were among the first on the market with an option to change the bitsetting mode. Since then, other brands have been released with firmware that will allow the mode to be changed. Bitsetting does not appear to work on any of the so-called "dual format" DVD burners that can handle DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW.

Of course, no matter whether you use DVD+R without or without DVD-ROM bisetting mode or whether you use DVD-R, the compatibility of your burned DVD's is dependent upon other factors. The brand of DVD+R or -R you use can make a big difference . Maxell brand has tested very well as have TDK, Verbatim and Mitsui (now MAM-A). Other brands have also received favorable user reports, but some brands consistently fail 50% or more of the time. Often these are "no name" brands that sell for far less than the better known brands.
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I Have Piles (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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Ill try another mate but i tried a Ritek R01 and that came out rubbish as well, both are great using V2 beta 4. i have now run out of other media to try apart from these 2 so i think i may have a duff drive, i bought mine within a week of it coming to the UK market so its a very early one.
Now i am lost, reflashed the drive tried the same discs again and they are brilliant this time Just one of those things i guess.
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Herrie (Firmware Patcher)
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Posted: 23-05-2004
Ehm RITEK R01 is crap anyway I believe Do you have KProbe do perform some tests? Maybe we can speed them up to 4x or something
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dimskom (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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RITEK R01 , i think it's not on the market already
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Thank you BoSkin!
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konsolen (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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has anybody probs to read back DVD+rw??

iam the only one??

with the org. hp vers. i have no probs.
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has anybody probs to read back DVD+rw??

iam the only one??

with the org. hp vers. i have no probs.
Konsolen, posting the same question with every firmware version released on several forums is getting annoying. As said before: DVD+RW has random problems at 4x!

Next time you'll ask you'll get an official warning!
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konsolen (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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if i get no answer of my question.
if i have probs with dvd+rw why i cant ask??

back to 1.08 no probs to read back!
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would it be safe to flash from a previous beta firmware of yours to this one?
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would it be safe to flash from a previous beta firmware of yours to this one?
Yes!
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