Need help making a Backup CD for Rosetta Stone Language

philamber

^ Does your original language cd work?

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kcautodoc

Hi all, I have been trying to do something similar and have not had success. Here is the deal.
Rosetta Stone Italian 1&2 Version 2.1.4.1A
SafeDisk 4 per A-Ray

Goal is to get the program onto my tablet and not have to use the CD at all. I have the extra battery in instead of the CD/DVD.

I tried Alcohol 120 and CD Clone
The Virtual Drive Program I am using is the Microsoft VirtualCDRom control Panel.

On 120 set for Safe 2/3/4 I got the program to start but then I was told to insert the correct disk. On 2/3/4 EMF I got nothing. With CD Clone I can't start up the program from the virtual drive and a copied CD (which doesn't really help me either, doesn't work either.

Do I have my settings wrong? I'm a noob at this. What else should I try? Any other setting suggestions or virtual drive program suggestions. I have been treating this original disk like gold and I would like to just put the thing away and not worry about it.

Thanks,
Richard

kcautodoc

Another question. Does anyone know if the application disk has to be loaded on the same drive the program is running on?

kcautodoc

I got it! Thanks for the help guys. I know I didn't get a response here but I kept reading and searching. bee offered some help and thank you bee.

First the hardware.
Acer 2010 laptop 1.5 Pentium M
DVD-RAM Matshita UJ-820S / WC2723S VOM403J SCSI cdrom (device manager label)

Rosetta application software already installed Version 2.1.4.1A (disc) Version 2.1.4A (on screen)
First A-Ray says it looks like Safedisc 4
Then Alcohol 120'd the Language disc on Safedisk 2/3/4 at 4mb/s
Then, Daemon Tools 4.08HE (set safedisc emulation) and YASU
Mounted the program after running YASU and it worked.

Then I transfered the iso, YASU, and winxpvirtualcdcontrolpanel_21 (microsofts virtual drive program) to my ASUS R1f tablet via a USB flash (the tablet is not online or on the network) and it works here without Daemon but still needs YASU

It also worked on the Acer with CureROM but Avast kept yelling at me about a Trojan so I went the YASU route.

I had a lot of trouble at first. I kept making iso's and ccd's (I tried CloneCD too) and tried to make an mds but non of 'em worked. I think the problem was that any emulation or virtual drive needs the YASU or CureROM. I guess the virtual drive hides the fact that the file is a copy and the YASU hides the virtual drive/emulator program from the copy finding its being run by a virtual driver/emulator program.

I guess the next step is having a program that hides the program that hides the virtual drive program from the copy that is looking to see if there is a program hiding the virtual drive program that is hiding the fact that the copy is a copy.

That's my attempt at making things seem more complicated than they really are. It took me about 1 full day of working on this to get it and a lot of it was spent waiting on the iso files to burn.

Thanks CDFreaks!

Yea

help_is_here

I managed to use the image to load in virtual drive and use the software without copying onto a disk.
Heres how I did it.
Insert CD in drive. Open Alochohol 120%. Click on Image Making Wizard or whatever. Select Safe Disk 2/3 in the drop down menu. Make the image at 1x speed. Dont worry about the errors. This will take some time. Maybe 30 mins.

After image is ready: (The following info is thanks to Pres-sean)
Click on Recroding in Options, click on Emulation and
Check "Ignore Media Type and
Check "Launch CD/DVD Mager without Ignore Media Type function".
Uncheck "RMPS"

Click on Extra Emulation and check "BAD Sectors Emulation".
Uncheck "Sub-Channel Data Fixed and Emulation"
Uncheck "Laser Lock Emulation"

Get an exe file called sd4hide.exe. Google it and you will find it. After image is ready, run sd4hide.exe. Its a small program runs in a small window. Now Load the image in Alchohol's Virtual drive. The the program window show up, Click on HIDE in sd4hide window. Then click on Start in the program. The program will work just like it does with the cd in the drive. I dont know what Restore button in Sd4hide is for. I didnt need to restore it.

I did not need Daemon, or any other program. I just used Alchohol 120% version 1.9.2.

I figured out all this with the help of this forum and I used a mix of different suggestions from different users. Thanks to all of you.

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Adrilindozao

The correct don't is Safedisc 2/3/4 EFM Writer?

DrAW45

I have tried everything here and still can't get Rosetta Stone backed up. Does anyone have any other suggestion?

aj1112

anyone know what the dor structure should look like for the farsi Languag Pack, rosetta stone???

eternity3

We are registered owners of the original program, and after many hours reading, re-reading, and trying numerous solutions to copy a 2007 language edition disk, I wanted to report an error and a solution that I found. I have used Alchohol120, deamontools, sdexe, and cdclone all to no avail, because of the following error.

When I make a CD using the method described here:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=140075

I get the following error:

"1. Error: Please insert the language CD."

then after pressing OK I get:

"2. Director Player Error: Property Not Found. # activity index. Script Error Continue, YES/NO?"

Then the program aborts.

Because of this error I tried all kinds of things. The problem for this error is NOT the disk, but the firewall! (I am using Zone Alarm Security Suite). The solution is to disable the firewall, then run the disk copied with CDClone. to confirm this is a firewall error, at times, even the original disk will not run.

I can confirm that the procedure used with CDclone, does work for me. I am not running Alchohol, SDEXE, or deamontools. (Also, don't install Alchol120, SDEXE and Deamontools if you can help it, they changed the configurations on two of my machines and I had to revalidate Windows XP and MSword. You should be able to do this ONLY with CDCLONE). I made the CD using ONLY CDclone, as described in the link above, and I used a 4x rewritable CD, and on a SATA LITEON DVD/CD drive.

Hope this will help someone else and save someone hours of problems!

tandymb

I am looking to buy rosetta stone spanish latin america. I will use Paypal.

kalas

Visit their website if they accept paypal http://www.rosettastone.com/

sonny1000

thanks so much for the solution. It worked for me. Now I can use this burned backup CD on any computer which has Daemon Tools installed with all Emulation Options turned On. I did exactly as he says backed up using Alcohol 120% using solwest speed, safedisk 2/3/4 option and skipped reading errors and fast skip blocks. The used alcohol 120% to burn the cd with slowest speed 8X, checked off Raw Dao, safe disk 2/3/4, bad setctor emulation and ignore media type.
I have a "_NEC_DVD_RW" which i used for this.

svldvc

sorry to bring up dead post...but can anyone help me and tell me how to burn the Image file to a CD or a DVD?? And what program do i use??

I used Alcohol 120% to make the image in mdf* or something like that and i used the SafeDisc 2/3

then I mounted the Image with Daemon Tools Pro as a fake drive

And now how do i burn it as a CD or DVD so that Rosetta Stone will not detect that its a burn copy??

PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

TheScarFace

OK! Listen everybody I don't care what language you're using, if you want to backup your Rs cds then do the following:
It's pretty clear to everyone by now that the protection used is safedisc 2/3 and you're bound to get reading errors and have problems making a backup unless you have the right hardware and the right settings which can vary so let's not get into that. My solution is this
1- make an iso image of the languge cd using whatever works. I'd like to use magic iso maker cause in my opinion it does magic.
2- install a software that can make a virtual Drive. I prefer alchohol and deamon tools.
3- mount the image you created in step 1
4- use a safedisk hiding software like YASU or sd4hide and activate it.
5- start learning.
keep your original cds somewhere safe and use the image file. this is much easier than using the original cd. you can keep the image mounted and then all you have to do is activate the Sd hider. It's that easy.
If you insist on making a backup CD then just write the image file on a cd. I mean the image file itself. and then put that one somewhere safe too.
hope this helps!

sterlu

Hi everyone,

I'm seriously pissed at Rosetta. We have two Rosettas V. 1 at home, and the first thing this f***ing software tells me that I need to uninstall these for V. 2 to run. Which is a) idiotic and b) not true, both run just fine along each other on two machines I tried it on.

Next I find out I can't make a backup of the language CD. With a CD that is supposed to be stuck into a drive and taken out again hundreds of times as a part of normal use, this is incredibly asinine. I'm aware that they seem to have solved this in V. 3 (which can store the language data on up to two hard disks), but how they could ever think this was a good idea ist beyond me.

But that's not all! In Version 1, to type in another language, you simply used Windows' own mechanism for switching keyboard layouts. In V. 2, if you want to type french, you're supposed to switch to the US keyboard (!) so the software can emulate an AZERTY keyboard layout. Have you ever used one of these? They switched the A and Q, the W and Z, the M and comma, for heaven's sake! Why can't I use a canadian or swiss keyboard, both of which are commonly used to type french and make a h*ll of a lot more sense to anyone used to QWERTY or QWERTZ?

So I called their support hotline, which was reasonably friendly, but more or less clueless. After a lot of asking other staff, this is what they basically told me:

- No, you can't copy the CD. If it scratches and you bought it at rosettastone.com, they will replace it for six months, after that the replacement cost you a fee. If you bought it anywhere else, well, you're screwed. So if you buy a V. 2 Rosetta (some languages are presently not available in V. 3), be sure to buy there and not at amazon, and to scratch it right before the six months run out to get a fresh CD.

- They don't really care about users of Version 1 anymore. After all, it's really old software that was developed in the nineties. Well, too bad for you if you bought it in 2003 like I did, because soon after that they released Version 2, after which all older customers seem to be supposed to just stop working with a software they just paid ~ 200 Euros for!

- The keyboard thing? Well, learn to live with it. It's the same in Version 3. Only now they use a different layout - not only different than AZERTY, but seemingly different than any french-speaking keyboard in use anywhere on the planet. Don't expect to become a french touch-typer this way.

I'm pissed. I was really enthusiastic about this software, but I don't think I will ever buy anything from them again. If I do, I'll certainly get a used V. 1 on ebay or someting. That version was buggy, sure, but these were bugs I could live with.

s.

sterlu

OK, rant over. I tried several of the tricks mentioned in this thread, so far to no avail:

- Alcohol: I get the autorun screen, then a Macromedia projector error.

- CloneCD: Even with the emulation software in "hidden" mode, Rosetta detects it and tells me to turn it off.

- MagicISO: I made an UIF image and downloaded the Daemon Tools. But the YASU home page seems to be down and I can't find sd4hide anywhere. Any hints on where to get something that'll work?

Thanks,

s.

sterlu

Answering myself again:

1. Don't make an UIF image, but ISO

2. It runs just fine without any further cloaking software. (It probably helped that I activated "Emulations" > "SafeDisc" in Daemon's context menu in the system tray)

Bonus: It's a lot faster than when your run it from the CD and the slight "lag" at the start of many audio tracks, which used to swallow the first syllables sometimes, is also gone.

Thanks, this thread really helped me a lot!

s.

cdfreakgeek13

The language discs are so simple to burn. Simply get a free trial of Ashampoo burning studio, click copy a CD/DVD/Blu-ray Disc and follow the simple instructions. This is the easiest way I have found. However I can not manage to burn the application disc so if somebody knows a simple way how please tell me.

cdfreakgeek13

^this method works for the application to sorry for the mistake

scottinaz

Ashampoo isn't working for me. I just received my replacement cd's from Rosetta Stone today. Since this is the third time they have replaced them for me, I doubt they will do it again. So I'm trying to make a backup. I tried the Ashampoo burning suite and it copied the application cd just fine. When I inserted the language cd it isn't able to read all the sectors on either the language 1 cd or the language 2 cd.

roma247

OK, folks, after having read every post from the past 3 or 4 years on this topic, here is my summary:

1. Anyone trying to backup their Rosetta Stone language CD with a version of SafeDisc beyond 2/3 is pretty much out of luck. I would guess that this includes anyone whose version was created after about 2006/7 and most certainly anyone with version 3...at least until someone in the future figures out a work around for it. So before posting further, please check the date (or copy protection version) of your software.

2. There is an extremely simple way of solving the problem for those with a version created before 2007 or so. It's already been posted above, with the date stamp 24-01-2007. Download Clone CD. Follow the directions posted up there for how to copy it correctly (it's been a while since I've done it...and why repost information that is already in this thread?).

3. Make sure, when you are done, to go to the lower right hand corner of your monitor (where your clock is) where you see the little icon of a sheep. Right-click it, check "Hide CDR Media". Done.

This worked for me, and I don't have one of the CD burners listed in the famous list of SafeDisc busters. So if it doesn't work for you, Please see #1 above.

Good Luck.

Oxyballids

Hello, I am also trying to burn a copy of Rosetta Stone. Of course it is not going to be as simple to burn as pictures or a downloaded song using a standard burning software/program, come on its copyrighted. Now, I do have a program that burns copyrighted DVD movies, though that is all it burns. It does or will not allow me to burn the Rosetta Stone However, I used this program to burn a copy of Microsoft Office 07 and it worked perfectly. Yet, when I try and burn anything else other than a movie it gives me an error message stating something to the fact that the item in the drive is not a movie, and it will not burn it. I thought burning a copy of this would be as simple as burning a copy of a DVD movie copyrighted or otherwise using this software, like I have done many times before. Please, can anyone help me with my problem and tell me how to burn both a copy of a computer program/software in general as well as specifically the Rosetta Stone software. Thank you very much to anyone who can help me with this matter.


Sincerely,
Jennifer

Terramex

@Oxyballids
Method A - mounting a disc image in a virtual drive

• install Alcohol 52%, open Image Making Wizard and create an image using the Safedisc 2/3/4 datatype (in case it's a DVD the Safedisc datatype)
• mount that image in the virtual drive of Alcohol 52%
• open the A.C.I.D wizard and cloak your virtual drive (maybe that last step isn't needed)

Method B - burning an emulated copy to CD/DVD

• install Alcohol 120%, open Image Making wizard and create an image using the Safedisc 2/3/4 datatype (in case it's a DVD the Safedisc datatype)
• open Image Burning Wizard, select your image and burn it with the Safedisc 2/3/4 datatype (in case it's a DVD the Safedisc datatype)
• in Alcohol's Options -> Emulation, tick RMPS *

* you can also uninstall Alcohol 120% and use the RMPS emulation of Alcohol 52% or DAEMON Tools lite instead

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roma247

Oxyballids,

I am no expert, and I don't mind helping others where I have had some success, but there are several questions that need to be asked in order to provide you with some assistance.

1. Did you actually READ any of this LONG thread full of different solutions to your problem?

2. Did you TRY any of those solutions to see if they worked BEFORE posting your question?

3. What version of Rosetta Stone are you trying to copy? Which program did you use to try burning it? These are important bits of information, as you might know if you read my post, which is right above yours.

4. If your version of Rosetta Stone is pre-2006/7, following the extremely easy steps in my post will fix your problem very easily. Try it.

5. If your version of Rosetta Stone is post 2007, so far very few people have had any success in copying them because of the type of copy protection used. (I base this not on firsthand experience, but on READING ALL OF THE POSTS ON THE SUBJECT.)

6. Either way, if anyone is going to be able to give you good advice, you will need to provide the information above. Again, you would likely know that already if you had READ SOME OF THE POSTS IN THIS THREAD BEFORE ASKING YOUR QUESTION.

...Not that I'm annoyed or anything, but the reason why these threads get so ridiculously long and difficult to navigate is because people don't want to take the time to actually read any of it, they want to just post their question and have somebody answer it for them. Seriously, folks.

AL!

Try using AnyDVD or Alcohol 120%.
Both of these burning programs will do the job.
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