Old 11-06-2009   #1
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How to backup the sims 3

I have A Pioneer DVD-RW (DL) (DVR-115D(1.0)

I have bought the sims 3 and i have made a backup copy with Alcohol 120%
Under the Make Image Wizard Option

I selected SecuRom for the datatype.
Skip Read Errors - Unticked.
Data Position Measurement Precision - Set to high
Save in a folder with in the alcohol 120% folder.
when it asked me for the DPM Measuring speed I have tryed 16x and maximum.
All the games copies fine and I able to mount this image with alcohol and play the game with out any problems what so ever.

but when I come to burn the game I get an error saying "somthing is wrong with the recording procedure!.

Burning Wizard Options.

datatype - SecuRom
RMPS - Ticked
Buffer Underrun Technology - Tick
Write Speed Set to 4x

it seems to start the RMPS writing engine, loads the memory buffer to 100% and the goes to start to burn the image but then fails.

can some help me please

TIA pete
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Old 23-06-2009   #2
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

Sims 3 isn't protected at all. It just has an simple DVD check.
Just burn without RMPS and it should work fine.
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

I've tried to back up my copy of Sims 3 using latest version of imgburn on Server 2008 x64 with TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D burner with latest firmware update. Copied the .iso/image at 1x speed the second time. Book set DVD-R DL

How do I get a DL DVD backup burned that passes the disc check of the game?

Can imgburn handle 'DVD Check'?

If not, what will?

Two coasters so far

Sims 3 DVD authentication failure log:
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Wed Jul 01 01:13:40 2009, DVDAUTH_RESULT_SUCCESS, O:, TSSTcorpCD/DVDW SH-S182D, TRINITY, Windows Vista [6.0.6002/2], DVD-ROM, Recordable, OTP, 2, 0x30000, 0xfcffef, 0x1926cf, silver media, , [0: 0: 0: 0: 0], Wed Jul 01 01:13:40 2009, 0 seconds, DVDAUTH_RESULT_FAILED_GOLD_DETECTED
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

My imgburn log FWIW

Code:
I 22:37:38 ImgBurn Version 2.4.4.0 started!
I 22:37:38 Microsoft Windows Server 2008, Standard x64 Edition (6.0, Build 6002 : Service Pack 2)
I 22:37:38 Total Physical Memory: 8,386,812 KB  -  Available: 5,049,260 KB
I 22:37:38 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:37:38 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:37:38 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM!
I 22:39:55 Operation Started!
I 22:39:55 Source File: X:\Sims3.mds
I 22:39:55 Source File Sectors: 2,903,440 (MODE1/2048)
I 22:39:55 Source File Size: 5,946,245,120 bytes
I 22:39:55 Source File Volume Identifier: Sims3
I 22:39:55 Source File Volume Set Identifier: 49F914D100000168
I 22:39:55 Source File Implementation Identifier: EZB UltraISO
I 22:39:55 Source File File System(s): UDF (1.02)
I 22:39:55 Destination Device: [2:0:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D SB07 (O:) (ATA)
I 22:39:55 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 4x, 6x)
I 22:39:55 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 22:39:55 Write Mode: DVD
I 22:39:55 Write Type: DAO
I 22:39:55 Write Speed: MAX
I 22:39:55 Link Size: Auto
I 22:39:55 Lock Volume: Yes
I 22:39:55 Test Mode: No
I 22:39:55 OPC: No
I 22:39:55 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 22:39:56 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROM
I 22:39:56 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,451,728
I 22:39:56 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 22:40:36 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
I 22:40:37 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 22:40:37 Writing LeadIn...
I 22:40:40 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2903439)
I 22:40:40 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2903439)
I 22:40:40 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1451727)
I 22:47:45 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1451728 - 2903439)
I 22:54:53 Synchronising Cache...
I 22:54:55 Closing Track...
I 22:54:57 Finalising Disc...
I 22:55:29 Exporting Graph Data...
I 22:55:29 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CD-DVDW_SH-S182D_SB07_TUESDAY-JUNE-30-2009_10-39_PM_RITEK-S04-66_MAX.ibg
I 22:55:29 Export Successfully Completed!
I 22:55:29 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:33
I 22:55:29 Average Write Rate: 6,807 KB/s (4.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,365 KB/s (6.0x)
I 22:55:29 Cycling Tray before Verify...
W 22:55:37 Waiting for device to become ready...
I 22:56:03 Device Ready!
I 22:56:06 Operation Started!
I 22:56:06 Source Device: [2:0:0] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D SB07 (O:) (ATA)
I 22:56:06 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 4x, 6x)
I 22:56:06 Image File: X:\Sims3.mds
I 22:56:06 Image File Sectors: 2,903,440 (MODE1/2048)
I 22:56:06 Image File Size: 5,946,245,120 bytes
I 22:56:06 Image File Volume Identifier: Sims3
I 22:56:06 Image File Volume Set Identifier: 49F914D100000168
I 22:56:06 Image File Implementation Identifier: EZB UltraISO
I 22:56:06 Image File File System(s): UDF (1.02)
I 22:56:06 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
I 22:56:06 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 2903439)
I 22:56:06 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 2903439)
I 22:56:06 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1451727)
I 23:02:51 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1451728 - 2903439)
W 23:09:11 Failed to Read Sector 2494272 - Reason: Timeout on Logical Unit
W 23:09:11 Sector 2494272 maps to File: \GameData\Shared\Packages\FullBuild0.package
W 23:24:30 Retrying (1)...
I 23:24:30 Verifying Sectors...
I 23:30:26 Exporting Graph Data...
I 23:30:27 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CD-DVDW_SH-S182D_SB07_TUESDAY-JUNE-30-2009_10-39_PM_RITEK-S04-66_MAX.ibg
I 23:30:27 Export Successfully Completed!
I 23:30:27 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:34:20
I 23:30:27 Average Verify Rate: 2,818 KB/s (2.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 9,967 KB/s (7.2x)
I 23:30:48 Close Request Acknowledged
I 23:30:48 Closing Down...
I 23:30:48 Shutting down SPTI...
I 23:30:48 ImgBurn closed!
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Old 01-07-2009   #5
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

@audioaficionado
I've just sacrificed 2 DL blanks as well

First one with ImgBurn just like you + i activated the 'Ignore media type' option in Alcohol 120%
-> doesn't work

Second (working) one i read & wrote with the Safedisc profile of Alcohol 120% (i know it isn't Safedisc, but the settings are ok that way). Before you insert such copy you have to activate the RMPS emulation of Alcohol or DAEMON Tools.


P.S.: i know earlier i said to not use RMPS, but in another context, and RMPS has more than that one feature of emulating the SecuROM signature. For Sims 3 you need it to really make it look like a DVD-ROM, and that works with e.g. the Safedisc profile.

P.P.S.: if you don't want to spend a third blank you can also start the Sims 3 in Alcohol's/DAEMON Tools' virtual drive.
This also works with a Mini Image (holding at least the first 2503 sectors, maybe less).


EDIT:
haven't looked properly at your log before . Maybe it's furthermore a problem with the burner/media combination.
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

Thanx for the prompt response Terramex

I'll try the Alcohol 120% virtual drive image first to see if it can be copied well enough to pass EA's DVD check algorithm before I commit another expensive DL blank.

I'll post back with the results.
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

I should have tried burning before claiming it's just a "simple" DVD-Check.
Didn't expect it to look for the disc type that thorough.

Sorry for the coasters
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

NP, I made those coasters before I came here for some help. Should have come here first

I created the fake drive, mounted the .mds & .mdf and I was able to play Sims 3 without issue.

Now I have to roll the dice on another DL blank. Heck, I might as well because buying another Sims 3 game disk would pay for lots of coaster attempts.
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

The only way I can get the DL DVD to work is to emulate RMPS during the copy and burn process and have either Daemon tools or Alcohol installed with RMPS enabled. Otherwise I can't produce a DVD that passes the DVD Check.

So the easiest way is to just install Daemon Tools and mount that image I created in Alcohol.

I wish there was a way to create an exact copy on DVD that works like the factory disc.

Any other suggestions?
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I wish there was a way to create an exact copy on DVD that works like the factory disc.

I wish for the same! Could any of you guys give some good suggestions? I don't mind paying (just this time) for some commercial package, but I only want to know if I'm buying the right one.

A friend of mine suggested Nero, but after some Googling around I also found AnyDVD to be related? Or is there some free program that also does the trick?
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

There is no way to burn an exact copy of a copy protected game dvd that will work like the original without some form of emulation as a result of the inability of dvd burners to burn in raw mode.
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

Since I started a thread in the wrong forum, I'm asking the question again here - soorry for being so n00bish

Hi!

I have purchased a legal version of the game Sims 3, but because it was quite pricy I would like to make a backup copy.

I don't know the technical details about the Sims 3 Copy Protection - I'm just trying to copy and back up Sims 3 .

I have several other games, so I would not mind investing in some sort of (commercial) sofware.

Problem is: I don't know which one to buy?


I have heard of Nero, DVDFab, AnyDVD - but which one is the right solution for me? Or do I need something else?

I already have a PC with DVD Burner, so that should be okay right?
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

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Nero isn't capable of backing up most modern protection schemes.

DVDFab + AnyDVD are not suitable for backing up software but their purpose is to remove movie copy protections.

As already mentioned in this thread you can either create a disc image of your Sims 3 DVD and mount that in a virtual drive (e.g. using Alcohol or DAEMON Tools Pro), or you can burn an emulated physical backup to a double layer DVD.

Latter can be achieved by reading and writing with the Safedisc datatype of Alcohol 120%.
Before loading the backup you need to activate the RMPS emulation option - have a look here.

P.S.:
if you don't want to burn DVD backups but only use virtual discs the free edition of Alcohol 52% is enough for your needs
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

I know this post is a bit old (found it via google search) but I wanted to suggest to both of you to use GameJackal Pro. It's insanely easy to use and I never have to use discs or disc images Hasn't failed on a single game yet, although I haven't tried Sims 3. However, if it works for every game I have so far (I have a decent amount), why not that one as well?

As well, Alcohol 120% is great for backing up games. I use it when I decide that I want an actual backup on top of using GameJackal. So far though I haven only made one backup. I really don't see the point since GameJackal works great. And it doesn't use huge image files.

Like I said I only suggest this because I am a big gamer and get sick and tired of scratched discs or even inserting discs period. But I also hate consuming all of my hard drive to save three CD's or one DVD for each game. I put a lot of money in what I got and I want it to work the way I choose. Not what the disc will tell me I can do.

Hope this helps!
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Re: How to backup the sims 3

actually its a media check, simple cdcheck and dmi check (thus, if you made a copy, u can't burn it as the dmi check would always fail...)
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