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Blank DVD Media Tests Discuss, AML DVD+R at Blank Media forum; Lite-ON 851S GS0C Media Information Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO Media code/Manufacturer ID AML 001 Media Product Revision Number 00h Free Blocks 405405696 Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB) Book Type DVD+R Media Type DVD+R Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x

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Assass1N (New on Forum)
Posts: 26
Posted: 22-04-2004
Lite-ON 851S GS0C
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID AML 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Hey gotta paste here my tests with Esperazna DVD+R 4x burned
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Assass1N (New on Forum)
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Posted: 22-04-2004
Lite-On 851S
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID AML 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Same Esperanza DVD+R but burned at 2.4x
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Posts: 11
Posted: 04-09-2004
NEC 2500A, FW 1.07 v2 beta5, 4.32GB movie.
Code:
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:AML-001-000]
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Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [AML]
Manufacturer Name :      [Unknown Manufacturer ID]
Media Type ID :          [001]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Full media code:
Code:
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 41 4d 4c 00 00  00 00 00 30 30 31 00 38   ...AML.....001.8
0020 : 23 54 37 13 02 4a 71 02  90 66 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a   #T7..Jq..f......
0030 : 01 1c 1e 0b 0c 12 12 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
Sold as Esperanza (slim case), manufactured by AML Techology. Scanned with Lite-on 451S@832S FW VS0B at 4x CLV, PI/PIF sum of 8 ECC.
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Posts: 11
Posted: 04-09-2004
NEC 2500A, FW 1.07 v2 beta5, 4.32GB movie.
Code:
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:AML-001-000]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [AML]
Manufacturer Name :      [Unknown Manufacturer ID]
Media Type ID :          [001]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
Full media code:
Code:
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 41 4d 4c 00 00  00 00 00 30 30 31 00 38   ...AML.....001.8
0020 : 23 54 37 13 02 4a 71 02  90 66 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a   #T7..Jq..f......
0030 : 01 1c 1e 0b 0c 12 12 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
Sold as Esperanza (slim case), manufactured by AML Techology. Scanned with Lite-on 451S@832S FW VS0B at 4x CLV, PI/PIF sum of 8 ECC.
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bugmenot2 (Bugmenot account)
Posts: 55
Posted: 31-10-2004
AML001 sold as SKY DVD+R 4X
Burned on: Sony DW-U18A @ Liteon 832S (FW CG3B) at 4X
Burning program: growisofs 5.21 (Linux 2.6.8, Debian sid)

About 4.4GB of data (just left 2MB of free space).
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File Type: png MP305_AML001.png (8.7 KB, 892 views)
File Type: png MP305_AML001-2.png (9.3 KB, 886 views)

Last edited by bugmenot2; 31-10-2004 at 08:37. Reason: Added a graph
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bugmenot (Bugmenot account)
Posts: 35
Posted: 31-10-2004
AML001 sold as SKY DVD+R 4X
Burned on: Sony DW-U18A @ Liteon 832S (FW CG3B) at 8X (real average speed: 4.91X)
Burning program: growisofs 5.21 (Linux 2.6.8, Debian sid)

About 4.4GB of data (just left 20MB of free space).
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File Type: png MP304_AML001.png (9.0 KB, 886 views)
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gravesg (New on Forum)
Posts: 1
Posted: 11-01-2005
lol i didn't do the whole test thing but i found these in Compusa cheap cheap wonderin if they are any good at all
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CanuckGod (CD Freaks Member)
Posts: 197
Posted: 14-01-2005
Depends on your drive... I got about 40 or so e3works branded discs back about the end of 2003, I found the discs still play well over a good year after I burned them on my Liteon 411 (although I burned them at 2.4x rather than 4x, seemed to work with more DVD players). The same discs would probably burn nicely at 4x on my NEC ND-3500 burner (if I had any left I'd test for you) - they're probably better than Princo or AN31 or the really cheap types, but top quality they sure ain't (hence the cheap cheap ).
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Optical Drives:
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 18-03-2005
8x AML-002-00
sold as generic HQ DVD+R....
burned at 6x on SOHW-1673s
scanned at 4x
pretty crappy.
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SOHW-1673S_JS02_17-March-2005_03_24.png (25.9 KB, 689 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 18-03-2005
at 8x
Code:
Disc Type                           	DVD+R                
Book Type                           	DVD+R
Manufacturer                        	AML Technology
Media ID                            	AML002
Protection System                   	None
Region                              	1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity                            	4.38 GB
Free Size                           	4.38 GB
Free Blocks                         	2295104
Number of Layers                    	1
Linear Density                      	0.267 um/bit
Track Density                       	0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed                  	4.8x
Maximum Write Speed                 	8.0x
Current Write Speed                 	8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1	8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 2	6.0x CLV
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SOHW-1673S_JS02_17-March-2005_22_35.png (25.9 KB, 686 views)
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Posts: 25
Posted: 26-03-2005
Sold as Intenso 4x.
Burned 2,4x Benq DW800a.
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File Type: png Benq_DW800A_B2L7_26-March-2005_18_55_Intenso x2,4.png (41.2 KB, 661 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 29-03-2005
same media as above, burned 8x as plextor 716A
wow, except for the horrendoous PIE levels, I'm rather impressed....
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scoobiedoobie (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 3,163
Posted: 20-10-2005
Sold at The Tech Geek (thetechgeek.com) as 8x AML +R, AML 002 media code. Burns fair on some burners, very well on my Benq 1640. Good cheapo media, depending on your burner.



8x on NEC 2500, FW herrie's 1.07v2b5:




2.4x burn on Benq 822 FW B3LC, set to 8x but it burned at 2.4x instead:




8x burn on Benq 1640 FW BSLB:




Transfer rate test of the Benq 1640 burn:
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SleepyBum (CD Freaks Rookie)
Posts: 33
Posted: 30-11-2005
8x AML 002 (000)
Sold as NeXXTech 8x DVD+R 50pk, Made in Hong Kong
Bought at Circuit City on Black Friday
Burned at 8x on BenQ 1640 BSMB
Scaned at 4x

Code:
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : n/a
 Disc Status      : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 8C FF 00 00 00 00 - .........%......
0010 - 00 00 00 41 4D 4C 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 32 00 38 - ...AML.....002.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7..Nr..c......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
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File Type: png BENQ____DVD_DD_DW1640_BSMB_29-November-2005_23_582.png (35.8 KB, 477 views)
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Posts: 743
Posted: 24-01-2006
Disc type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : AML 002 (000)

Mr. DVD

DVD+R

Written on an LG GSA 4176b (DL12) (up to 2.7gb) and continued the multisession disc with a BenQ 1620 (B7W9) until the end.

Scanned on a BenQ 1620
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File Type: png BENQ____DVD_DD_DW1620_B7W9_24-January-2006_21_15.png (40.2 KB, 413 views)
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LG GSA-H55L
Samsung S203N
BenQ DW 1650
Liteon 165P6S......Retired...
LG GSA-H22N V1.01.... Retired...
LG GSA-4167b DJ13.....Retired and sold
BenQ DW 1620 B7W9.....Retired and sold
AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA
Intel Core2Duo E6420
2x OCZ GOLD GX-XT 1GB PC2-5300 (2GB Total)
Gainward BLISS 7800GS+ Golden Sample
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JayC30 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 2,140
Posted: 25-01-2006
Also sold as MR DVD (AML 002), burnt and scanned on Philips1628P1 (Q2.2), which means no PIF as it can't be done on this drive. These are from one written at 4x, scanned at 8x. Booktype set to ROM.
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Posted: 25-01-2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayC30
Also sold as MR DVD (AML 002), burnt and scanned on Philips1628P1 (Q2.2), which means no PIF as it can't be done on this drive. These are from one written at 4x, scanned at 8x. Booktype set to ROM.
Hey JayC30, Why not cross-flash to a BenQ 1640?

The firmware is updated quicker than phillips and you could also do full quality scans of your discs. Nothing can really be shown from just PIE results.
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LG GSA-H55L
Samsung S203N
BenQ DW 1650
Liteon 165P6S......Retired...
LG GSA-H22N V1.01.... Retired...
LG GSA-4167b DJ13.....Retired and sold
BenQ DW 1620 B7W9.....Retired and sold
AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA
Intel Core2Duo E6420
2x OCZ GOLD GX-XT 1GB PC2-5300 (2GB Total)
Gainward BLISS 7800GS+ Golden Sample
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Posted: 30-01-2006
Quote:
Originally Posted by chancooluk
Hey JayC30, Why not cross-flash to a BenQ 1640?

The firmware is updated quicker than phillips and you could also do full quality scans of your discs. Nothing can really be shown from just PIE results.
Forgot I even posted here. Simple answers are knowledge (I don't understand how to do it, therefore not going to risk it at the moment) and warranty as the drive is part of a complete system. Oh well no more scanning for me then until warranty expires.
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Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
not sure where to put this, so I'll put it here. Here are some scans of some cheap media burns by various drives. They are burned at max as determined by the drive. My thinking is that average joe sees a good deal on a bunch of dvds, and will grab it; knowing good media from bad isn't knowledge that is out in the general media. So I've always wondered which drive to recommend to people who might not know anything about computers, but is always looking to cheap out. so without further adieu, here are the results with AML media

Liteon 165P6S; drive limited burn to 6x CLV; supports 4x-8x
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_00_13.png (72.4 KB, 379 views)
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Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
1635s
Code:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:     : DVD+R
 Book Type      : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:  :  unknown
 MID            : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:  : 6 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity : n/a
drive burned at 8x
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_00_34.png (72.0 KB, 372 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
PX-716A

Code:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 4 X
 Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Closed
got up to 8x, powerrec kicked in to reduce to 6x at the end
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_01_01.png (71.4 KB, 374 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
1673s@1693s KC4B
Code:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 6 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Closed
the scan didn't finish, I assume that the burn was completely messed up after that point since it took a long time for any drive to recognize the DVD
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_02_15.png (69.2 KB, 368 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
NEC 3550
Code:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD+R
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : 4.38 GB
                  : 4482 MB
                  : 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Empty
Attached Images
File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_02_59.png (72.1 KB, 367 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
Benq DW1655
Code:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD+R
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : 4.38 GB
                  : 4482 MB
                  : 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Empty
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File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_03_36.png (72.2 KB, 363 views)
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seeker010 (CDFreaks Resident)
Posts: 671
Posted: 31-01-2006
LG 4167B
Code:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD+R
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 4 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : 4.38 GB
                  : 4482 MB
                  : 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Empty
Attached Images
File Type: png LITE-ON_DVDRW_SHW-1635S_YS0W_31-January-2006_05_08.png (72.1 KB, 360 views)
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