Clonedvd mobile 1.1.2.0

Version 1.1.2.0: 2006 10 25
- New: ability to batch-process multiple titles into distinct files
- New: possibility to create a separate file for each chapter within
a title.
- New: Device list on initial page rearranged hierarchically
- New: added support for Palm TX
- updated Apple iPod profile (5. Gen) to support 640x480 resolution
- added profile for Creative Labs ZEN Vision W (widescreen version)
- Fix: Non Dolby-Digital 6-channel sound (for example Linear PCM,
DTS, Dolby Pro-Logic) could be distorted
- several small fixes and improvements
- Updated languages

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Have to check this out when I get home, hopellly the PSP template offers in sync sound and the Batch options works well, I mainly use this for TV DVD's and they really need to be able to do multiple episodes.

Need help!!! Downloaded update to 1120 and now it won't work. Getting Microsft message on error- must shut down, Report/ No report.

DVD Clone Mobile worked great with Zen isison M until now??

And once again it would be nice to see a version that works without the sound/video being out of sync. I have tested the identical DVD on other software with no problems.

It would also be nice to see a screen cropping function, I have a few DVD's that show overscan.

And also a 2 pass option.

I just tried to use the iPod 5th gen hires. option.
I made the 640 x 480 at max. video quality.
2 gig file that plays fine on the laptop with quicktime.
I added the file to iTunes with add file to library and it added file.
I fixed the name, year and other tag info.
The file plays fine from the laptop iTunes into a new quicktime window.
Everything should work.
When I connect the iPod, the sync tells me that it can not add the video.
"Graceland" was not copied to the iPod "iPod" because it cannot be played on this iPod.
The iPod is the 80gig Ver. 1.2, so it should work.
What did I do wrong?
Thanks for the help

Hello,

As a test, I took a 3 min. music video from a DVD and used 1.1.2.0

I made the following files:

Using iPod Video;
320 x 240 x max. video quality = 33, 24,115KB
512 x 384 x max. video quailty = 33, 55,487KB

Using iPod Video 5. gen (hires);
320 x 240 x max. video quality = 33, 24,115KB
512 x 384 x max. video quality = 33, 55,487KB
640 x 480 x max. video quality = 33, 85,326KB

The 80GB iPod took all the videos except for the 640 x 480?

It looks like the same method is being used for the 320x240 and
the 512 x 384. The same file size and the same visual quality to me.
The 640 x 480 plays fine with quicktime, just will not load into the iPod?

I will try the new 1.1.2.1 and see if it helps.

Hello,

Ok, I used 1.1.2.1 and did 640x480.

640 x 480 x max. video quality = 33, deinterlaced 85,326KB
640 x 480 x max. video quality = 33, interlaced, 68,686KB .

The 80GB iPod took the 640 x 480 interlaced. but not the deinterlaced?

Any ideas?

Enrique

My guess is, that your settings slightly overshot the max. allowed video bitrate.
640x480 with quality setting 33 will - depending on the actual FPS - result in 2,5 up to nearly 3 Mbps. The iPod accepts up to 2.5Mbps.
You can approximate the actual value by dividing the filesize by the length of the movie and then subtracting the audio bitrate (128 kbps).

Please also note: if you're only watching your videos directly on the iPods screen, there is absolutely no point in creating resolutions larger than 320x240. You won't gain anything at all.
This is only useful, when attaching the iPod to a TV.

We'll try to add an automatic bitrate-limit that makes sure, that this can't happen.

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Last edited by Peervh; 02-11-2006 at 19:36. Reason: Add info

The Option to set Bitrate would be very welcome, as would a cropping optin.

The bitrate can already be set using the quality-slider, though it's currently not possible to easily derive the actual resulting bitrate from it.
The next release will display the resulting apx. video-bitrate. Also it will automatically limit the video bitrate to the maximum defined by the device's specifications (if known).
But be careful about raising these values to the limit. Apple states that the iPod can handle up to 2500 kbps, but this doesn't mean that this will always be a smooth run. You may experience more or less "jumping" on some devices, when you're reaching the limit.
You're only safe, if you stay "well below", especially with devices supporting multitasking.

We're approaching christmas, so maybe some of your wishes will eventually come true

Welcome to the CDF Forum Peervh, I don't think I have seen anyother Slysoft support member beside James here for awhile. It is certainly nice to have you here. If I can be of any assistance let me know.

Thanks

Judging from great help you're providing to our customers here, you very much are of assistance, already.

And we appreciate you Peerh! Thanks for participating.

Yeah thanks for the Help, I mostly use it with the Generic Divx option, even thou I have a Zen M I use the files on my PC as well. Cropping would definately be nice as it would use the maximum Bits on the image and not waste them on the Black Bars. Tow other questions any chance for a two pass option ? and would such an option yield a better image? Also any hope for an option to encode to WMV? I Know MS can be sticky with this format, but since they've opened up the option for the 360, there are no good/fast encoding options out there for the format. I'd love to have Clonemobile support encding for the 360.

About the two pass: it's on the list, but probably not in the next release. I did some experiments and personally I have to admit: I have difficulty noticing the difference between 1 and 2 passes. If I take a very close look at certain scenes, there seem to be just a little bit less artefacts. But this could have also been wishful thinking (might also depend on the video-source).

WMV: we're working on this. Trouble is, that most mobile devices out there, that play WMV, also want the WMA-audio-codec. And that remains to be implemented...

The cropping: just wait for the next release. I'm sure, you'll be happy with the zoom-option, that's more useful than a crop.

But as already mentioned in another thread: it is a wide spread misbelief, that the black bars really have a noticeable impact on filesize and/or quality.

Since this is a very persistent issue, I'd like to give you a simple mind-game that might make it more plausible: the bars you see in a cinemascope video with a 16:9 encoding - reencoded to 640x360 are of size: 640x44.
Create a black bar of this size with some graphics program, save it as jpeg (this comes close to certain techniques in mpeg).
I did it: that bar was poor 702 bytes in size. Compared to an average 640x360 picture stored with the same quality settings: apx. 50kB, the bars (2x702 bytes) use less than 3% of that size.

Now here is where it gets interesting: the above is only meaningful for I-Frames (aka key-frames). Those are the only frames in the video, that are stored with their full information.
The vast majority of frames (typically 14 times as many as I-Frames) in the video stream are P-Frames. They basically encode the differences between the other frames. Now what is the difference between a black bar and a black bar?
Yep, right: so P-frames contain nearly no information about the black bars at all.

So, please, people, stop worrying about black bars, you can sleep safe and sound at night, there are no evil bytes out there, only good ones, and many of them come from SlySoft

I have a Live EZIO DVD that has overscan showing at the top, it would be nice to be able to crop to remove these.

And as it is a darkish, smokey atmosphere it would be better done with 2 passes.

Well the 360 would most definately need the audio in wma format. I think a two pass would help. The other software I mostly use is AutoGK, if I do a one pass quality based encode at 85%, the quality is on par with what I see in Clonemobile at about a 28 slider,same resolution, the one main difference is file size the AutoGK file of the same source might be 465 meg and the clonemobile file would be 985 meg. Quality would be similar. Autogk is using xvid and obviously clonemobile is using Mencoder, but the file sizes should'nt be so grossly exagerated no ?

Two pass is definitely on the list. Someday...
Thanks for the AutoGK-Info, I'll take a look at it. Roughly twice the size seems unbelievable. Of course, CloneDVD could produce XviD as well (which is known to be a bit better in quality than DivX).

How would it do this can an .ini file be tweaked?

I am attempting to get CLONE DVD MOBILE to work with my device. I need video 320x240 at 20 fps with mpeg-4 with audio at mpeg-1

It seems that no matter what I try it uses 24 fps and the audio is wrong.

Thanks for your help. The device is a SCANPORT Sp500 Note the scanports website shows 24 fps. The samples are 20 FPS

Joe

I hope you have updated to the new 1.1.4.0.

Oh yes, I am using the newest version. Any suggestions?

Joe