Silicon Image Sil 3512 SATA Controller

maorsela · 25-02-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mciahel

Hi,Okay. Since this card has an external connector, you might play with the jumpers. If I remember correctly, then only two of the three existing ports can be used. There should be a jumper that determines if the external or the internal port is active.

But at least you were able to flash the non-Raid Bios onto the card, if I have seen that correctly.

Btw you can attach screenshots directly - see my signature for details

Michael

P.S.: My own card is a Delock 70096, which is available in some european countries. It comes with Raid Bios, so I had to flash it.

Thanks again, I will check the card to see if there are any jumpers on it.

I also didn't need the Raid feature so it was really nice to be able to flash to non-raid

trukos · 16-03-2009

Hi, please can someone tell me if this card is bootable, here is what im gonna buy http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...TA150R&cat=CCD

I want to use it with XP on single mode hard drive.

Hope you could help me guys.

Thanks!

*zebadee* · 16-03-2009

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Originally Posted by trukos

Hi, please can someone tell me if this card is bootable, here is what im gonna buy http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?inv...TA150R&cat=CCD

I want to use it with XP on single mode hard drive.

Hope you could help me guys.

Thanks!

Hi

Welcome on board.
The card is bootable, but you need to make sure your motherboard BIOs will allow this too.

trukos · 16-03-2009

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Originally Posted by zebadee

Hi

Welcome on board.
The card is bootable, but you need to make sure your motherboard BIOs will allow this too.

Thank you, that was fast jejej...

Well my mobo is a old one, bios has this boot options: HDD 0 to 4, USB floppy, USB hdd, etc. SCSI, CDROM but not external PCI card. I Hope with SCSI boot, this will work.

zebadee thank you for the answer

**mciahel** · 16-03-2009

Hi,

SCSI boot should do the trick

Michael

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trukos · 16-03-2009

WOOOW, this was realy faaast jajaja...

I`ll try and let you know guys.

I, liked this forum.

Thanks!

trukos · 17-03-2009

Well i just install the card, but it freeze during boot (dos) when i conect a sata hdd. if I disconect the hdd works fine, windows recognize it as sataRaid controler even instas XP drivers.

But until now no luck to start with a drive conected.

Any help?

Thanks

**mciahel** · 17-03-2009

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by trukos

Well i just install the card, but it freeze during boot (dos) when i conect a sata hdd. if I disconect the hdd works fine, windows recognize it as sataRaid controler even instas XP drivers.

But until now no luck to start with a drive conected.

just for clarification:
Your operating system is installed on another HDD? Also, make sure, the boot sequence in Bios is set to boot from your OS HDD at first, and exclude the controller from the boot sequence for now.
Then try again, please.

Michael

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trukos · 17-03-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mciahel

Hi,just for clarification:
Your operating system is installed on another HDD? Also, make sure, the boot sequence in Bios is set to boot from your OS HDD at first, and exclude the controller from the boot sequence for now.
Then try again, please.

Michael

Thank you, mciahel.
But I just change the pci card to another slot, and the bios did not hang up during booting.

Booting perfect.

Thanks again

0pt1x · 01-04-2009

I will be getting a card like the Masscool XWT-RC061 soon and wonder if Silicon Image's reference to the BIOS for an e-PAD design refers to an external port as such cards have? If so, then the BIOS is b4384e.bin for Base or r4384e for RAID. However, I understand that if boot function is not required then the BIOS can simply be erased with the DOS utility UpdFlash.exe without specifying a BIN file -thus saving an unnecessary boot delay.

Note that the UpdFlash.exe utility is to be used from DOS (i.e. boot floppy), not a Window as I see some were trying. DOS utilities are generally more reliable than their Windows counterparts -in this case SiFlashTool. Also, the driver version is to be matched with the BIOS version and type.

Another issue that users may have been experiencing is which ports are active -i.e. only two of the three ports are useable and given no jumpers it must be automatic. Presumably when the external is used then a certain internal is deactivated -otherwise leaving the two internals active for RAID purposes. Again, the BIOS (Base, e-Pad or RAID) may play a part in how this works but in any case look for labels near the ports.

Also, while my mainboard's CMOS Setup does have boot device priority for various HDD0, HDD1, SCSI, floppy, and so on, there is another section where the priority can be specified between detected HDD's and an add-in card. Some such settings may only be visible when entering the advanced menu with CTRL+F1.

I hope this helps and someone can answer my question about e-PAD and the xXXXXe.bin BIOSs.

maorsela · 01-04-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by trukos

Well i just install the card, but it freeze during boot (dos) when i conect a sata hdd. if I disconect the hdd works fine, windows recognize it as sataRaid controler even instas XP drivers.

But until now no luck to start with a drive conected.

Any help?

Thanks

This happened to me as well, I returned the card for a replacement and all is well.

There was no jumper on the card that disables the esata port, the port was just defective.

0pt1x · 02-04-2009

I discovered that e-Pad refers only to the chip design (unrelated to external ports) and specifically to Exposed Pad type of Thin Profile Quad Flat Pack. It is stated in various documents that the 3512 is "available" in such TQFP with e-Pad and that the e-Pad must be soldered to the PCB. That, along with pictures from other manufacturers suggests that while the Pad is exposed it is on the underside. So how are we to know which particular card has an e-Pad chip package or not and thus which BIOS to use (e suffix or not)?

**mciahel** · 02-04-2009

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0pt1x

(...) However, I understand that if boot function is not required then the BIOS can simply be erased with the DOS utility UpdFlash.exe without specifying a BIN file -thus saving an unnecessary boot delay.

This is very interesting, since my 3512 card prevents my system from booting USB devices.
At the moment, I'd guess erasing the card Bios would render the card useless. I am wrong with that assumption?

Michael

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_chef_ · 02-04-2009

Yes, sadly...

0pt1x · 02-04-2009

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Originally Posted by mciahel

Hi,This is very interesting, since my 3512 card prevents my system from booting USB devices.
At the moment, I'd guess erasing the card Bios would render the card useless. I am wrong with that assumption?

Michael

I suppose you have consulted the mainboard manual for advanced boot priority options? Erasing the BIOS should be a harmless (it is easy enough to reflash afterall) but if you like, I will try it when I get my card and follow up.

**mciahel** · 03-04-2009

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0pt1x

I suppose you have consulted the mainboard manual for advanced boot priority options?

Yes, I did. I guess, there is some motherboard Bios bug

WONTFIX since my motherboard is no longer in production.

Quote:

Erasing the BIOS should be a harmless (it is easy enough to reflash afterall) but if you like, I will try it when I get my card and follow up.

Very interesting. Keep us posted

Michael

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**mciahel** · 03-04-2009

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Originally Posted by 0pt1x

I (...) wonder if Silicon Image's reference to the BIOS for an e-PAD design refers to an external port as such cards have?

seems, the epad design is not related to external ports:

Quote:

The SiI3512ECTU128 is packaged in a 128 pin TQFP with an exposed metal pad (5.385mm x 5.385mm) on the
package designed to improve signal quality by having a low inductance ground connection.

You can download the data sheet from SiI Knowledge base (http://12.24.47.40/display/2n/kb/art...?aid=11160&s=1 - PDF document)

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0pt1x · 03-04-2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mciahel

seems, the epad design is not related to external ports:

You can download the data sheet from SiI Knowledge base (http://12.24.47.40/display/2n/kb/art...?aid=11160&s=1 - PDF document)

Yes, I realize that now (please see post 37). So, perhaps the part number printed on the chip shows whether an ePad package or not?

SiI3512ECTU128 (E for ePad?)
SiI3512CTU128
SiI3512CT128

*Dartman* · 19-04-2009

Thanks for all the info guys. I was just given a Adaptec 1210sa raid card and with this info it looks like I MIGHT be able to use this card with optical drives if I reflash it to the base bios.
I have a Via 6421a I got working after much putzing around with ports and many different drives to find 2 that play well together. It also has a IDE port that seems to function but if it keeps making me nuts with slow boot ups and like that I might try this card so I'm bookmarking the Sil site and downloaded the bios and drivers for later.
I got the 6421a working in Win7 by the way but it was very picky about what ports and drives would actually work together, most vista drivers seem to work fine if anyone is thinking of trying it out.

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