rolling56's C2D build pics

TM · 08-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

Sounds like a nice rig. Do you have any pics?

I took some pictures of my Shuttle PC. It is a lot smaller than yours, but it's a real fast machine and has everything I need.

I have only two HDs since I have a large RAID 5 NAS storage for my valued data and DVD RAM as backup for my NAS backup...

*Bob* · 08-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by th_mi

I took some pictures of my Shuttle PC. It is a lot smaller than yours, but it's a real fast machine and has everything I need.

I have only two HDs since I have a large RAID 5 NAS storage for my valued data and DVD RAM as backup for my NAS backup...

Nice

Thank you for the pics. I've never built a shuttle.

johnnydavidson · 10-07-2007

Me either. What are the advantages(if any) of building a shuttle? Just size? Good for PVR?

**alan1476** · 10-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

Nice

Thank you for the pics. I've never built a shuttle.

I have never seen a " Shuttle"

*Bob* · 10-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan1476

I have never seen a " Shuttle"

I've only seen pics of them. Never seen one someone built. th_mi's build looks like a very healthy one for this day and time

TM · 11-07-2007

I'd like to buy a small sized PC since a long time, because I do not need a PC with a big case, since I do not make a lot extensions over the PC life cycle. So why a large PC case. I still have a few MidiTower PC's (Pentium 3 Dual CPU systems), but in the next few weeks I'll retire 2 of this systems.

The positive point with the Shuttle PCs is in my opinion the good cooling concept. My Shuttle does not have any problems with temperature. I also have a MSI booksize PC and this form factor has more problems with cooling since the PC case has only a small height. The Shuttles have a real good quality and most of the systems have a performance comparable with a normal desktop PC. The Shuttle flagship the SD39 is not slower than a desktop PC with the same configuration and supports Core2Quad. My SD32 is a little bit "smaller" choice (the case is ~1/3 cheaper than the SD39 and it is fast enough for me, I do not need a C2Q).

My Shuttle has everything I need USB (every PC has this), FireWire 400, Gigabit LAN and HD sound. Since my demands to a sound card are not too high the onboard sound is perfect for me, but I could plug a PCI sound board in my Shuttle since the PCI slot is free. Currently I use the slot plate of the PCI slot for 2 additional USB ports. My shuttle has 8 USB ports, this is not bad for such a small PC.

*TCAS* · 11-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

TCAS they have a zipcode for another town close by. In Missouri it's just how they do it. If you go through a town with no population listed on the city limit sign then they have the same zipcode as a near by town.

It's still a town but treated like it's a rural route.

Thanks rolling that is good information to know, I was completely unaware of this situation.

al53A · 19-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by th_mi

I'd like to buy a small sized PC since a long time, because I do not need a PC with a big case, since I do not make a lot extensions over the PC life cycle. So why a large PC case. .

From what i remember reading the size of the case also relates to "thermal headroom" and airflow efficiency - additionally as large fans can be fitted their rotational speed can be lowered for the same airflow - as a result My DELL Dim.9200 (desktop) is as quiet as a lap top - you say ther are no heat issues with a shuttle but what about the sound?
It seems the mainly comparible Quiet computers are Macs - UNFORTUNATELY unless you are living in a permanently cold climate you'll be lucky to avoid various problematic overheating issues - look how many different generations of Macbook there have been in a couple of years for eg.. Of course new customers are generally unaware of this as Apple make M$ look positively philanthropist when its comes to propaganda,deceit and greed added to the fact the majority of Mac customers don't even really use a computer - its just bought for show

From your description its sounds more like having the limitations of a Laptop (tho cheaper i guess) little room for additional internal HDD , optical drives ,card reader,bigger more powerful Graphics card etc all of which would cost more (cf internal) if you wanted to buy them as externals and defeating the object of a small sized box.I agree it may be fine for your specific needs but i suspect its a niche product (?)

*debro* · 19-07-2007

I recall that dell, and I believe Acer had issues with laptops overheating and either bursting into flame or exploding under certain conditions.

And that was a separate issue to the exploding SONY batteries.

TM · 19-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by al53A

you say ther are no heat issues with a shuttle but what about the sound?

The SD32 is not very loud, the fan of the chipset it the loudest fan, that kan be read in a lot reviews about the SD32, and the reviews tell the truth. At the moment I do not have the time and the joy to exchange the fan, I read in a shuttle froum there are people changing the chipset fan and cooling device against a larger passive cooling device (I guess somethinf from Zalman!?) and the do not have any problems qwhen the chipset graphic is not used.

Quote:

Originally Posted by al53A

From your description its sounds more like having the limitations of a Laptop (tho cheaper i guess) little room for additional internal HDD , optical drives ,card reader,bigger more powerful Graphics card etc....

For me I do not see any limitations, I have 2 HDDs in it "only with 250GB size since I do not need larger HDDs. My data storage will be done to a 1TB NAS and additional backuped to DVD RAM.
since I have more than one PC I have the components I need external. I have one USB card reader, and a collection of optical drives. And for me the graphics card is powerful enough. A 7950GT with 512MB is engough for me. If I'd would like to have a 8800GTS or GTX or whatever needint 2 slots, I'd have bought a Shuttle SD39.

Quote:

Originally Posted by al53A

I agree it may be fine for your specific needs but i suspect its a niche product (?)

Sure it may be a nice product, I never said it is not. But Shuttles are so popular you can get Shuttles almost all over the world. The most positive thing of my Shuttle is you need only a small place for your PC, instead of the place for a big tower. For example I like rolling56 machine, it is cool and I like the silver case, looks really great, but I would never need 10 "slots" for 5.25 drives. If you need all your CD and DVD, and BD and HD DVD drives at the same time, it is perfect. But I do not need that, that is my reason for a Shuttle.

*Bob* · 28-07-2007

I added one of these as my free Ultra 600w started messing up on me. Very nice cabling

*Bob* · 17-08-2007

Well i'm almost finished with my new build. I'll have my 10th drive (Samsung 203B) to put in it on Monday and my PCI/IDE card will be here Tuesday so i'll post some pics next week. I have 9 drives in it now but only 6 are connected to the mobo.

*Bob* · 21-08-2007

Here's a sneak peak at tomorrows pics

This is why i need a black bezel for my Premium 2

and oem 1655 bezel (it has a 1640 black bezel on it

).

*Bob* · 22-08-2007

Well this is it for awhile. Everything is working no problems.

Glad i put that Seasonic 700W PSU in it

Not to cluttered up with everything that's in there

1. Plextor PX-760A
2. BenQ 1655 (with 1640 bezel on it

i have a bezel on order)
3. Plextor Premium 2
4. Plextor Premium
5. Lite-On LH-20A1P
6. Lite-On 160P6S
7. LG H-42N
8. LG H62L
9. Samsung S183L
10.Samsung S203B

TM · 22-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

Well this is it for awhile. Everything is working no problems.

Glad i put that Seasonic 700W PSU in it

Not to cluttered up with everything that's in there

1. Plextor PX-760A
2. BenQ 1655 (with 1640 bezel on it

i have a bezel on order)
3. Plextor Premium 2
4. Plextor Premium
5. Lite-On LH-20A1P
6. Lite-On 160P6S
7. LG H-42N
8. LG H62L
9. Samsung S183L
10.Samsung S203B

What a machine

700W PSU

The electricity bill

Is is correct 5 hard drives??? Wow

your disk space will last forever

A real great machine

*KTL* · 22-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

Well this is it for awhile. Everything is working no problems.

Can you post a shot of all the drives as seen in CD-DVD Speed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TM

Is is correct 5 hard drives???

It's only 3 physical drives in the cage next to the PSU, probably 2 extra partitions.

*maineman* · 22-08-2007

[Edit]
Sorry...double post.

*Blodulv* · 22-08-2007

damn...10 drives...crazy setup

*Bob* · 22-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by TM

What a machine

700W PSU

The electricity bill

Is is correct 5 hard drives??? Wow

your disk space will last forever

A real great machine

Thanks.
3 HDD's one is in 3 partitions. 720 gigs total. Not sure if the electric bill is higher or not.

*Bob* · 22-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL

Can you post a shot of all the drives as seen in CD-DVD Speed?

It's only 3 physical drives in the cage next to the PSU, probably 2 extra partitions.

CD Speed will not show all my drives

Not sure why it will show 8 of them but all my other programs show all of them. Anyone know how to fix it? I posted my problem so Erik will see it

DVDFab Platinum shows all of them though.

Yes 3 HDD's

*jamescooley1* · 22-08-2007

Mighty nice rig Bob, LOL you are my hero

*Bob* · 22-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamescooley1

Mighty nice rig Bob, LOL you are my hero

lol thanks Jim. It's nice to have most all my drives just an arms length away. All 15 of my drives are in a case and ready to go to work for me

I'm going to try to burn 2 DL's at the same time from .iso files i made last night

*KTL* · 22-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolling56

CD Speed will not show all my drives

Not sure why it will show 8 of them but all my other programs show all of them. Anyone know how to fix it? I posted my problem so Erik will see it

The reason I asked was because I had the same problem before when CD-DVD Speed wouldn't see all of my 10 drives, whereas InfoTool showed them. I deduced it to chipset limitation and BIOS versions on the Silicon Image 680A-based PCI-IDE cards. With the nForce3 250Gb motherboard, all 10 drives would only been seen when 8 were on 2 PCI-IDE cards and 2 on onboard primary channel ONLY. Any other combinations would NOT work. I tried the same configuration on a nForce4 motherboad, it did NOT work, only 8 were seen, irregardless of setup.

With the current setup (4 on PCI-IDE card and 4 onboard), everything works fine. However, if the Pioneer 112D is paired up with the 111D on the same channel on the PCI-IDE card, neither drive is seen. Paired the 111D with the Optiarc 7170A, it's fine. This is using the latest non-RAID BIOS and driver.

So you may have to play with drives' configuration a bit.

*Bob* · 22-08-2007

Well i only have 1 IDE channel on my mobo so this is what i guess i'm stuck with. It's the last (bottom) PCI slot that is not listed in CD Speed. I get an option when booting up to configure the cards.

So Erik Deppe is going to tell me the same thing?

zevia · 22-08-2007

Very nice setup rolling.

10-07-2007	#128
johnnydavidson MyCE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 352	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics Me either. What are the advantages(if any) of building a shuttle? Just size? Good for PVR? __________________ 5 AMD and 1 Intel and rising

11-07-2007	#131
TM MyCE Resident Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 583	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics I'd like to buy a small sized PC since a long time, because I do not need a PC with a big case, since I do not make a lot extensions over the PC life cycle. So why a large PC case. I still have a few MidiTower PC's (Pentium 3 Dual CPU systems), but in the next few weeks I'll retire 2 of this systems. The positive point with the Shuttle PCs is in my opinion the good cooling concept. My Shuttle does not have any problems with temperature. I also have a MSI booksize PC and this form factor has more problems with cooling since the PC case has only a small height. The Shuttles have a real good quality and most of the systems have a performance comparable with a normal desktop PC. The Shuttle flagship the SD39 is not slower than a desktop PC with the same configuration and supports Core2Quad. My SD32 is a little bit "smaller" choice (the case is ~1/3 cheaper than the SD39 and it is fast enough for me, I do not need a C2Q). My Shuttle has everything I need USB (every PC has this), FireWire 400, Gigabit LAN and HD sound. Since my demands to a sound card are not too high the onboard sound is perfect for me, but I could plug a PCI sound board in my Shuttle since the PCI slot is free. Currently I use the slot plate of the PCI slot for 2 additional USB ports. My shuttle has 8 USB ports, this is not bad for such a small PC. __________________ Still own a bunch of Plextor, NEC and Pioneer burner But I alo have a SureFire LX2, Backup, E2L, U2, A2L-WH, .... and a few more

19-07-2007	#134
debro Blown to smitherines Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Between the CDFreaks Orange and Blue Portals Posts: 13,338	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics I recall that dell, and I believe Acer had issues with laptops overheating and either bursting into flame or exploding under certain conditions. And that was a separate issue to the exploding SONY batteries. __________________ / ----- I remember when all this will happen again -----/ You will be baked ... and there will be cake ... you monster. Click here to still be alive! Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. --Terry Pratchett Primary PC: 1.4Ghz Quad Core Cortex A9, 2048MB Ram, Mali 400 video, 32GB Primary, 64Gb Secondary, 802.11N 2.4/5Ghz, 1280x800@10.1" with one years supply of Jelly Beans Secondary PC: i7-Q720@1.6Ghz, 4GB, 500GB Hybrid HDD, Win7 x64 BusPre, Ati HD5470M-1GB, backlit keyboard. Tertiary PC: Amd Phenom II 945, 4GB DDR2, 120GB Vertex 2, AMD HD7850(OC) 2GB , Win8 Pro, 24" 1920x1200, cordless keyboard + mouse + gaming mouse.

28-07-2007	#136
Bob Resident lunatic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 17,882	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics I added one of these as my free Ultra 600w started messing up on me. Very nice cabling __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My Not So New Anymore Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

17-08-2007	#137
Bob Resident lunatic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 17,882	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics Well i'm almost finished with my new build. I'll have my 10th drive (Samsung 203B) to put in it on Monday and my PCI/IDE card will be here Tuesday so i'll post some pics next week. I have 9 drives in it now but only 6 are connected to the mobo. __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My Not So New Anymore Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

22-08-2007	#142
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22-08-2007	#143
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22-08-2007	#146
jamescooley1 MyCE Resident Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rock and Roll Capital of Planet Earth-Detroit Mi. Posts: 8,945	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics Mighty nice rig Bob, LOL you are my hero

22-08-2007	#149
Bob Resident lunatic Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for my zigzags ~ I come from the no place and i go to the no where Posts: 17,882	Re: rolling56's C2D build pics Well i only have 1 IDE channel on my mobo so this is what i guess i'm stuck with. It's the last (bottom) PCI slot that is not listed in CD Speed. I get an option when booting up to configure the cards. So Erik Deppe is going to tell me the same thing? __________________ "You've got a hole in your soul if you don't dig the Blues" .....My Not So New Anymore Build is Finished. Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com Keith Richards ~ "If You Want The Last Laugh........Join The Rolling Stones"

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