IDE > Serial ATA?

*VirusHack* · 22-10-2004

Hey Guys,
I wanted to ask, after speding over a year with a 40gb HDD im going to upgrade it to somthing bigger... My Q is it worth going to Serial ATA/RAID and how much would it cost (about)? I want around 120gb pos more. Also what has it got over IDE?

Thanks
VH

*rdgrimes* · 22-10-2004

SATA is the future, so it's always worth it to upgrade to future technology. Unless you will be buying high-end drives like Raptors, RAID will get you nothing that's noticable in every day use. RAID-1 is, however, very secure and redundancy is always a great idea.

Right now, 160GB drives are cheap and plentifull, generally your best value per GB. Don't skimp on entry-level drives, get the best that the drive makers offers. In the case of WD, that's the JB series for standard IDE drives. Like THIS . Or, the JD series for SATA, like this .
The Seagate drives are also well respected fro reliability and performance.

*VirusHack* · 22-10-2004

Hey
Thax fot the advice. My MB doesnt support SATA, what stort of "kits" are out there atm (and cost)?

VH

*rdgrimes* · 22-10-2004

Your only option is a PCI card controller, they come in a wide range of prices and features. I'm partial to the Promise Fastrack S150-TX2-Plus.

*VirusHack* · 22-10-2004

Hi,
How about setting up an O/S? is it just like using IDE or is it diff? Also how about this card:
Adaptec ASH-1205SA

With this drive:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 120GB SATA

Thanks
VH

*rdgrimes* · 22-10-2004

Any of the Barracuda drives will be fine. I don't know who makes the Adaptec cards, so I can't comment on them. I'd stick with Promise, but that's me.

*VirusHack* · 22-10-2004

How bout setting up it just like plug in, boot up and install you stuff or does XP need to be configured to run on SATA?

VH

*Mr. Brownstone* · 22-10-2004

Seeing as SATA 2 is on the horizon and youve got no onboard SATA ports id stick with IDE, the only real world benefit of SATA is that each drive is on its own channel therefore file transferring between each drive is faster, 'although IDE drives can be setup this way' but you will either has to stick your CD/DVD/RW on the same channel or purchase a PCI IDE Card, the whole transfer rate issue such as SATA at 150mbps and IDE at ATA100, ATA133 is not really an issue as hard drive speeds rarely hit anywhere near ATA100 speeds, maybe in short bursts but nowhere near that in normal file transfer

*rdgrimes* · 22-10-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirusHack

How bout setting up it just like plug in, boot up and install you stuff or does XP need to be configured to run on SATA?

VH

Depends on your motherboard and BIOS version. You may need to set it to boot to "SCSI". (boot sequence). Immediately after booting to your Windoze CD, you will also need to hit F6 and load the drivers for the PCI card. Or, you can also image the old drive to the new one with something like Drive Image. In that case you would need to load the card drivers prior to imaging.

*VirusHack* · 22-10-2004

I have a Gigabyte GA-7VAX with BIOS ver. F13. If/when I get a new drive i will do fresh install, and just back up my stuff to DVD/ my old drive.

VH

22-10-2004	#1
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22-10-2004	#2
rdgrimes Retired Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Deadwood Posts: 11,533	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? SATA is the future, so it's always worth it to upgrade to future technology. Unless you will be buying high-end drives like Raptors, RAID will get you nothing that's noticable in every day use. RAID-1 is, however, very secure and redundancy is always a great idea. Right now, 160GB drives are cheap and plentifull, generally your best value per GB. Don't skimp on entry-level drives, get the best that the drive makers offers. In the case of WD, that's the JB series for standard IDE drives. Like THIS . Or, the JD series for SATA, like this . The Seagate drives are also well respected fro reliability and performance.

22-10-2004	#3
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,022	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? Hey Thax fot the advice. My MB doesnt support SATA, what stort of "kits" are out there atm (and cost)? VH __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! Please use the forum. My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F4F) 6GB 'DOMINATOR'/XMS2 Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - System storage (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - Primary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) Western Digital RE2-GreenPower WD1000FYPS - Secondary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX OC 768MB PCI-E (301.42) Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24" DVI Monitor Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

22-10-2004	#4
rdgrimes Retired Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Deadwood Posts: 11,533	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? Your only option is a PCI card controller, they come in a wide range of prices and features. I'm partial to the Promise Fastrack S150-TX2-Plus.

22-10-2004	#5
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,022	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? Hi, How about setting up an O/S? is it just like using IDE or is it diff? Also how about this card: Adaptec ASH-1205SA With this drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 120GB SATA Thanks VH __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! Please use the forum. My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F4F) 6GB 'DOMINATOR'/XMS2 Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - System storage (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - Primary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) Western Digital RE2-GreenPower WD1000FYPS - Secondary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX OC 768MB PCI-E (301.42) Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24" DVI Monitor Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

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22-10-2004	#6
rdgrimes Retired Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Deadwood Posts: 11,533	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? Any of the Barracuda drives will be fine. I don't know who makes the Adaptec cards, so I can't comment on them. I'd stick with Promise, but that's me.

22-10-2004	#7
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,022	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? How bout setting up it just like plug in, boot up and install you stuff or does XP need to be configured to run on SATA? VH __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! Please use the forum. My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F4F) 6GB 'DOMINATOR'/XMS2 Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - System storage (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - Primary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) Western Digital RE2-GreenPower WD1000FYPS - Secondary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX OC 768MB PCI-E (301.42) Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24" DVI Monitor Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

22-10-2004	#8
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22-10-2004	#10
VirusHack CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,022	Re: IDE > Serial ATA? I have a Gigabyte GA-7VAX with BIOS ver. F13. If/when I get a new drive i will do fresh install, and just back up my stuff to DVD/ my old drive. VH __________________ Click HERE to join CDFreaks.com! Its free! Want to post? Read the forum rules and go right ahead! I do not provide help via PM/e-mail! Please use the forum. My rig: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Gaming Case 700W Jeantech 'Storm' PSU AMD Athlon 64 6400+ X2 'Black Edition' @ 3.2Ghz - Stock (Skt AM2) Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P (nVidia GeForce 6100 / nForce 430 chipset - Rev 1.0 - BIOS F4F) 6GB 'DOMINATOR'/XMS2 Corsair dual channel DDR2 RAM (PC2-6400/800Mhz) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - System storage (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ - Primary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 32MB Cache) Western Digital RE2-GreenPower WD1000FYPS - Secondary Archive (SATAII 7200 RPM 16Mb Cache) BenQ DW1620 (B7W9 - R2) BFG GeForce 8800GTX OC 768MB PCI-E (301.42) Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP 24" DVI Monitor Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard (Rev 1) Razer Lachesis Banshee Blue Gaming Mouse "He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past." - Kane

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