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| D-Sub or DVI. Is there a real difference? You guys are reliable hardware experts so I am throwing out the question here. I have both D-Sub and DVI on my graphics card and am hungry for a flat screen. The problem is just when I find one that is almost pefect in other specs., it is missing DVI connections. Should I wait for the price to drop again ( I don't really need to move now)? Is DVI worth more, all other things considered? Is there any other specification that is most importand between refresh, contrast, or brightness? Will 8ms, 700:1, and 300 cd/m2 enough for Far Cry type gaming? Thanks again.
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| Re: D-Sub or DVI. Is there a real difference? What DVI do you mean? DVI is better, IMO.
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| Re: D-Sub or DVI. Is there a real difference? It's the old analog vs digital argument. IMO, DVI is the only way to go. With my Dell 1905FP, if I use the dsub connection text appears fuzzy. Definitely not as sharp as with the DVI connection. I suppose this could be subjective, ultimately your eyes will tell you which is better. In theory the digital connection will always provide the 'better' connection. When using the digital connection, none of the analog adjustments are available, and shouldn't be needed as the signal is as good as it gets. |
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| Re: D-Sub or DVI. Is there a real difference? Quote:
Brightness about 300 cd/m2 is typical -> brightness higher than 300cd/m2 is really only needed if you intend to play games in full/direct sunlight. The quality of DVI/HDMI digital signal versus ye-olde RGB DSub is remarkably similar to the comparison of DVD versus VHS .... it's a no contest. DVI/HDMI digital stomps all over analogue. 'nuff said. Of course, you can get DVI analogue, but there's no real point. 1000ms/8ms = 125Hz refresh rate .. it's enough, but 5 years ago, back when I played alot of FPS games, I was considering the 6ms screens with DVI, I'd be surprised if there hasn't been considerable progress since then. However, I settled on an expensive ($1000) 24" LCD instead with 8ms response, which is adequate. Anything without DVI is ancient, and not worthy of your cash, and definitely not compatible with bluray. The last few video cards I've purchased didn't even come with the old 15pin DSUB, they came with HDMI, DVI and Display Port only. To get ye-olde VGA DSUB connection, I had to dig out an old analogue DVI/VGA adapter. Buying a monitor now, which only has analogue input is just pure silly. Leave it for the poor and ignorant people.
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| Re: D-Sub or DVI. Is there a real difference? Yo Debro- Do you frequently answer threads that are over five years old?
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| Re: D-Sub or DVI. Is there a real difference? Beleive it or not Samsung makes a monitor with just D-sub and HDMI , no DVI input. Its worthless to me.
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I'm now considering grabbing a pitchfork, and a piece of straw to chew, and joining an unruly mob for one of these new, fandangled, witchhunts.
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HDMI is a valid alternative to DVI, they are video signal compatible, except that HDMI can also carry sound/comms/Control Signalling. While ATI cards did have a DVI with sound out, it's a hack job. HDCP won't affect consumers. It's just an encrypted link. At any rate, HDCP was broken recently anyway
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A lot of the monitor manufacturers are now moving to HDMI sockets instead of DVI as these support both standards. DVI is electrically compatible with HDMI so no signal conversion is required and there's no loss of quality. Wombler
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I knew this when I ordered it and simply didn't care, because I knew it made no difference. But it came with a DVI to HDMI cable, which is nice considering that my Nvidia video card doesn't have an HDMI jack. As stated above: HDMI has extra conductors for Audio and remote signals, but for video a simple adapter OR an HDMI-to-DVI cable will work perfectly AD | |
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