Profiles for BW5

Here are some unofficial profiles for BW5

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I made them theoretical , and since we all know theres a differense between theory and practise, they may not work.
But feel free to try them out

For some games to work, you'll need to install BW5Tweaker v1.5.5 which you'll find here

Just post any feedback you might have

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Last edited by genjai; 14-03-2004 at 21:03.

thnx,
i shall try them.

thanks a lot genjai,

I'll try them, that's what I looked for

Thanks, genjai for your work

But I miss the "Tages"-profile...
(***I was joking***)

Remembering what Lapinou wrote on 01-12-03:

we did tages support since years ( motoracer 3 ) but it is not available to the public. we let clonecd does it, as they are the best

I still hope the reading engine for Tages will once be published.

yes .. and I am still waiting for the competitors

to be honest, part of the development team was in his yearly vacation, we will be back to work, but first on copytodvd 3.

btw, the problem has never been in reading

btw:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....ges+subchannel

Tanith: Do you really come from the site "tagesprotection.com"?

He/she has been provided with a "custom user title" as is the custom with authors, developers, spammers, industry employees, general nuisances, idiots, complete fools and 'interesting' members. He/she claims to be a Tages Protection employee hence the custom user title.

We don't dislike protectionists, in fact AtomicX as an example is a very welcome member here, but we dislike teasing and secrecy above all.

Our logs show that employees from all walks of life, including Macrovison and Securom, visit here.

Don't make a big deal out of it as I know you won't. Circumspect comments and questions are OK and are a part of forum life - it makes things interesting, doesn't it

I've just updated the profiles.
I have added some new profiles and I also hope the topology quality made of securom protected games will improve

thnx again

Thanks for your good work genjai!

Hello Genjai,

Do you know how we could still do the complete topology dump.

VSO seems to have introduced a new "Fast Topology dump" which
restrict the range [0..120000]

13/03/2004 3:21:40 PM info BWT 5 file contains topology data: Quality 100%
13/03/2004 3:21:40 PM info Topology extraction completed in 01:18
13/03/2004 3:21:40 PM info Topology extracted. Quality 100%
13/03/2004 3:20:22 PM info Fast Topology: Max speed selected, x40 returned by device
13/03/2004 3:20:22 PM info New fast topology method used. Range [0..120000]
13/03/2004 3:20:22 PM info Topology extraction started
13/03/2004 3:20:21 PM info Extraction successful in 03:12


(Older blindwrite version didn't have this range restriction!!)
(Normally i was doing 0..250000)


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Yesterday, I even tried with TopologyMethod=1, and the range wasn't better and i also had few "hicups"...

13/03/2004 3:53:37 PM warning Topology extraction failed
13/03/2004 3:53:37 PM error Slow Topology method has failed. Try another method
13/03/2004 3:53:37 PM error Topology: Exception Message (RefSector) above last sector (C:\Workplace\BW5\U_BW5ReadEngine.pas, line 2023)
13/03/2004 3:53:35 PM info Topology: x8 Read required, x8 selected
13/03/2004 3:53:35 PM info Slow topology method used. Range [0..120000]
13/03/2004 3:53:35 PM info Topology extraction started


13/03/2004 2:12:41 PM info ******************** Report session closed *********************
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info Loaded copy profile Automatic
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info Using Patin-Couffin driver Version 1.21, Internal revision 21
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info Autoplay driver active. Version 5
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info ParamStr 0 = "C:\Program Files\vso\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info User default language : 4105 (0x1009h) - English (Canadian)
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info System default language : 4105 (0x1009h) - English (Canadian)
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info Version 5.1.5.132
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info Title : BlindWrite 5.1.5.132
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info ExeName : "C:\Program Files\vso\BlindWrite5\BW.exe"
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
13/03/2004 2:12:20 PM info ******************** Report session started ********************


=> I noticed that you just implemented the TopologyMethod=1 into your newest profiler.. I hope it wont break the compatibility over some drives..

Cheers!

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Last edited by webbertrix; 15-03-2004 at 03:31.

hey weebertrix,

1=enabled 0=disabled -1=automatic, what are the other options? I think I saw also 2=?
and what's about compatibility with ohter drives? you mean the ones who can't read topology?

thanks for your answers

@kalas

[TopologyMethod]
-1 = Automatic (default=FAST Topology)
0 = *New* FAST topology (NO speed control)
1 = *New* SLOW topology (WITH speed control)


The New SLOW topology doesn't seems to work over all drives or it's bogus!!

Example:
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error Slow Topology method has failed. Try another method
error Topology: Exception Message (RefSector) above last sector (C:\Workplace\BW5\U_BW5ReadEngine.pas, line 2023)

(So it's risky to use it into securom default profile..)

Also, neither method allow to setup a topology extraction range.
(It's seems to be always 0..120000)


So for now on, i will use the standalone BWA Builder!

thanks for your quick reply weebertrix,

I'm a little bit confused now
So there are no standard parameters for the BW5 profiles, for example 'subfordata=0' I thought that reading the subchannels for data is disabled. In this case you can't compare it with '0 = *New* FAST topology (NO speed control)' it's not disableing something it sets another speed. I hope I described my problem that you got my point. If not ask me

how i can change or turn off the topology range?

and how i can add a bwa-file without the tweaker?

@kalas

The new "fast topology" set the range/speed automaticly.
(The user doesnt have any control on this behavior)

The new "slow topology" let you to specify a speed
(example : topologyspeed=1411) but not a range !!

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subdata extraction has nothing to with topology extraction.
(please do not confuse different type of extraction)

@alpha011

It's a new "extraction way" implemented with the newer blindwrite 5.1.x versions..


If you dont like it, presently there's only two choice :
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- Rollback to previous blindwrite 5.0.x versions
- Use standalone bwa builder with tweaker... (this is what im currently doing)


=> I already complained about this to VSO !


(They said the Fast topology is more "compatible" than the older technique and that's why they implemented it...)

(But, sadly they are removing half of the topology density peaks information)

(Current Securom implementation maybe doesn't look RIGHT NOW at the second density part, but any software patch updates could change this behavior..)

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Last edited by webbertrix; 15-03-2004 at 20:47.

yes i agree with u, thx :-(

Strange, is someone else having problems with the new topology mode?

I havent found a way to select the topology range yet, sorry

@genjai


Well,

This new "SLOW TOPOLOGY" option is undocumented, and only part of your newer profiles

(not even bwtweaker support it!!)

So if not too much people using your profiles (or maybe only using older ones) almost nobody could possibly notice it..

Made two profiles just for SafeDisc 2-3.15 Download
tested them with the following games:
(reading and burning with plextor premium fw 1.05)

Battlefield Vietnam
Battlefield 1942 + all Add Ons
Rainbow Six Raven Shield + Athena Sword Add On
Crazy Taxi 3
IL 2 Forgotten Battles + Ace Expansion Pack
LOTR Return of the King

They are all tested on a 'clean machine',
so no emulation running and they worked fine.
Hopefully they will also work for you,
if not sorry about that

p.s. AD=autoplay disabled, your idea genjai

Thanks for the profiles kalas, i'll test them out.

One thing though - i use a liteon drive to backup safedisc and I know that in the past "enhance weak sectors" has not been required, but every profile i see has this option enabled. Is it still not necessary for liteon drives with the latest safedisc versions, or is it now needed to make a successful backup with a liteon?

I have been unable to make a successful backup of PoP with a ltr-48125w but have always had "enhance weak sectors" off.

Thanks

Hi CD 1986,
That's really a good question and believe me I thought about this too. I don't really know today why to enable ews but it worked fine with BW5, so kept it enabled. When I'm using BW 4.5.7 I would never enable ews for SafeDisc 2.xx protected games. So I can't really help you, but probably more skilled members can give us the answer
Try it with your litey and see if it works. Would be nice if you can give me some feedback about this. Feel free to PM me

I attempted to backup BF Vietnam today, and got some results that I thought I would share with you all.

Using Blindwrite 5.1.6.132, a Toshiba DVD reader, and an Asus 1610a burner, I made a backup copy of BFV using Genjai's profiles.

I used a Verbatim CDRW first. This disc did not work in my Toshiba or Liteon 166 DVD drives.

Then I burned a Memorex CDR which was actually a CMC Magnetics disc. This CD would work on the Toshiba, but not on the Liteon, or my Pioneer DVR-106.

Next, I had another "generic" CMC Magnetics CDR (got 100 for free). This disc would not play on and DVD or CDR drive.

I am kinda bumming out that I have 200 CMC discs here now, but the price was REAL cheap.

So, I think that your CDR media is a factor also in your backing up success.

My next step is to get some good qualiry media and see if I can make a disc that works in all my readers.