Unable to shrink Ren & Stimpy Lost episodes with DVD Shrink

I finally picked up Ren & Stimpy the lost episodes and they ripped fine (using dvd fab), but they won't compress in DVD Shrink. When I first opened them (it happens with both discs) it starts the quick scan but as soon as it finishes I get a pop up titled "Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library" which says;

Runtime Error!
Program: C:\Program Files (x86)\DVD Shrink\DVD Shrink 3.2.exe
abnormal program termination

I am running xp 64, but I've never come across this error before. I tried vob blanker (for the hell of it) which of course did nothing. Any suggestions on what I should try? Or should I resign myself to using dual layer discs (I have some on hand so its not a huge deal, but I'd rather not use them if I don't have to).

Try reinstalling DVDShrink.

Or you could:

Start using DVDRebuilder instead of DVDShrink. DVDRB is offered as freeware, but you can pay a small fee and upgrade it to the Pro version.

Try ripping the DVD with another program such as AnyDVD, RipIt4Me or DVD95CopyPro. There have been a few reports lately with DVDFab not producing compliant rips.

Or use FixVTS on the ripped disk

The fact is that Shrink does not calculate episodic discs very well, I did it with a Payware program, DVDFAB Platnium. Try the free trial and see if it works.

I'll try that out and see if it works.

Tried that after VOB Blanker, no dice.

I'm too cheap to buy the program so I'd rather not know if it works .

I have not tried doing it with RipIT4Me (even though I have it installed). I guess I figured it was a shrink issue, not a rip issue.

I said try the " Free Trial", you can delete it at no cost if you dont want it. There is no obligation to buy this program if you dont want to.

This is not true. Its initial algorithm is the same for all video. If the rip is good, then DVD Shrink's initial analysis will be accurate.

Regards

Wouldn't the ripping engine be the same in both DVDFab HD and DVDFab Platinum?

I'm guessing it is either a dud disc or a bad rip.

Maybe its not true for you, but I have had problems with episodic discs and Shrink even when it was updated. You have another answer, I would love to hear it, because this has happened to me a dozen or more times.

No. I don't believe the free decrypter shrinks, I dont use it so I could be wrong, but I dont think I am.

I believe you are right, considering the C++ runtime error you received.

If you have Ripit4me installed you might want to give it a go in the future. It’s a wonderful app, just not updated anymore.

I am sure you know that DVDFab has a free version of their decrypter (ripper) that you can find at dvdidle.com, its updated for all the new releases as soon as the authors find a solution.

Currently, I don’t believe that you would need to use either FixVts or VobBlanker after the rip when using DVDFab Decrypter.

Unless of course you wanted to blank some title sets with VobBlanker.
Which of course, is where the fun really is:

Are you running Dual Core?

I have never had a problem with episodic dvds using Shrink, so I guess I agree with Blutach. And Ive done many of them.

With episodic dvds, I do the whole disk. Maybe that's our difference ??

I have ran a load of episodic Dvds through RipIt4Me & Dvd Shrink hasn't kicked any back as yet, (full Dvd Rip). I figure if Dvd Shrink opens it I am in like flint. Now I am not saying that there aren't any other programs out there that can't do the same, just relaying my own personal experience. BTW in case anybody cares I am up to the fs on the episodic backups, Season 8 of 10 of a real friendly TV show & then I have to move on to h & listen to "Book Em Danno".

The free version does not compress but I was talking about the ripping engine :P. He is using DVD Shrink for compression. That's why I asked why use Platinum is they (the ripping part) is the same in both.

Currently, my advice is to try a different ripper and/or check if the disc is bad.

Hi Alan,

Without wishing to hijack the thread, this is what dvdshrink (the person) had to say when explaining how the initial analysis worked:

Quote:

DVD Shrink checks the VMG_V_ADMAP and so knows exactly how many vobus are in the VOBS file, and where each one begins. Then it checks the C_POSIT table for each cell in each title. The C_POSIT table contains a list of all the cell and vob_id's that are used by that title. Then it checks the C_ADT and for each cell and vob_id creates a list of every vobu that is used by that title. Then it checks the V_ADMAP again, and if there are more vobus in the V_ADMAP than accounted for by all titles, the unaccounted vobus go into "Unreferenced Material" folder.

As you can see, the table-building/cross-checking is totally independent of the VTS - DVD Shrink cares not what the main movie is or what an extra is, or whether the DVD is episodic or not.

The whole thing depends on the DVD's structure and this in turn, depends on the ripping performance - errors/irregularities in these key IFO tables may produce the varied output you have observed. However, it is untrue to say it does not calculate episodic DVDs very well.

As a matter of practice, I cross check the sizes between DVD Shrink and DVD Rebuilder and the space for video matches - even on episodic DVDs.

Regards

Yes, I'm running an athlong 64 X2 (4200).

What happens if you launch Dvd Shrink, then open up Task Manager, right click on Dvd Shrink, then set the affinity to one core or the other not both, then carry on as you normally would?

No difference, but to be honest I didn't think there would be since no other disc has given me this problem.

Did you try RipIt4Me yet or even the newly updated DvdFab HD Decrypter?

Not yet, I'll try this weekend, when I have more time to try stuff.