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Old Posted: 26-05-2004
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Is it possible to "convert" a +R drive (HP 200i and HP 300c = Philips?) to a +/-R drive via a firmware hack? I would be even happy with a -R drive.
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Old Posted: 26-05-2004
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It is possible if your manufacturer has released such a firmware update. I do not think urs can be tho Unless maybe someone has made a patch

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Old Posted: 26-05-2004
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It is possible with some DVD+R/+RW drives but not with the rest, at least not yet.
Old Posted: 27-05-2004
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A firmware cannot add - capabilities to a + drive unless this drive was built
from the start to burn - also (ie with a dedicated chipset). Regarding these
2 drives, even if they were able to burn - discs there's very little chance
HP will ever tell you how to do it.
Old Posted: 27-05-2004
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Originally Posted by darklock
Is it possible to "convert" a +R drive (HP 200i and HP 300c = Philips?) to a +/-R drive via a firmware hack? I would be even happy with a -R drive.
I think +R is a bit better compared to -R.
So if you have the choice of having only one, +R would be the way to go....

Is there a reason why you say that you want to make it just -R ( if you can't make it dual that is )?
Just curious ...
Old Posted: 27-05-2004
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I think +R is only better than -R if you are able to change the booktype of the written disc. I know too many people who are not able to play DVD+R that don't have their booktype changed on their standalone players.
Old Posted: 27-05-2004
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I think +R is only better than -R if you are able to change the booktype of the written disc. I know too many people who are not able to play DVD+R that don't have their booktype changed on their standalone players.
Liggy:

I thought +R had other advantages as well ( better error correction/checking for one ... )

Is it true - Or am I dreaming ?!?!
Old Posted: 27-05-2004
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I was originally interested in +/- R, but would have settled for -R since my Panasonic standalone can only read -R discs.
BTW - the HP 200 is a Ricoh, and the HP 300 is a Philips. Haven't seen any firmwares on the usual links which would convert it over....
Old Posted: 28-05-2004
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I was originally interested in +/- R, but would have settled for -R since my Panasonic standalone can only read -R discs.
BTW - the HP 200 is a Ricoh....
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I think +R is only better than -R if you are able to change the booktype of the written disc.
Liggy , gave you a god answer...bitsetting.

- All Ricoh/Philips drives ie. your HP, can use Ricoh/Nero booktype bitsetting.
- All DVD-players accept DVD-ROM booktyped DVD+R´s.
- Easy and painless...

BTW, DVD-R´s are normally cheapo, useless, bad media!
Old Posted: 28-05-2004
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Hmm, I tried setting the +R to DVD-ROM on using my BTC 1004IM (I was burning CompUSA +R media = Optodisc) and it still would not play in my Panasonic RV30

I'll have to give it a shot with the HP DVD writers.
Old Posted: 30-05-2004
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Just an update...the HP 300c burned the DVD+R automatically with a booktype of DVD-ROM. It plays perfect in my Panasonic standalone (RV30)

This is awesome! Now I have to figure out why my BTC 1004IM was not able to do the same. I had set the booktype to DVD-ROM but it would not play in the Panasonic standalone. Same type of media (Optodisc 2x +R).

Thanks for the advice! Now I have to figure out what to do with the Ritek 4x G04 -R media I have.....
Old Posted: 01-06-2004
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yes it is possible.

My NuTech DDW-081 was a + only drive and now it is a + & - drive with the firmware of DDW-082
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Old Posted: 01-06-2004
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Blah. Again, if BenQ and NuTech drives are now able to burn - it only means
they were built to do so from the start, ie with specific hardware. A firmware
update alone cannot bring + or - capabilities to a single format drive, so your
example proves nothing for an HP drive (and even less for other brands).
Old Posted: 01-06-2004
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Listen to spath! First the HP DVD Writer dvd200i/e is an OEM Ricoh MP-5125A drive which was never designed for -R writing and never will. The good news there is a new firmware upgrade for this drive on rpc1.org, ver 1.72. I'm in shock that any new firmware at all has been released for that 2.4X drive. You may want do download it and be happy. I'm not familiar with the HP 300C, it appears to be an OEM Philips of some sort, almost certainly the same story there. The bottom line as has been repeated twice before is that if the drive was not designed to write -R from inception in hardware; then no firmware upgrade can make that happen! Drives like the LiteOn 401S were designed with -R abilities from the start and thus at some risk can be upgraded.
Old Posted: 05-06-2004
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The 200i can't be made into a DVD-R Drive, I have one.
It can burn +R discs with a DVD-ROM header though which is the source of many compatibility issues with DVD+R if that's what you're worried about. If you just wanted to use cheap DVD-R media, forget it, won't happen.
Old Posted: 05-06-2004
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Thanks for the replies. Yes a HP 200i is a Ricoh M5125A, and the HP 300c is a Philips DVD8301/44. Both are able to burn +R as DVD-ROM which works great.

Now I need to figure out what to do with the 90+ Ritek G04 -R blanks I have....

I could use them in my BTC 1004@1008 I suppose.....
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