Old 12-11-2004   #1
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Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Emprex 16X DVD writer
I saw this at Frys' Electronics last week.
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Code:
Emprex:
Outpost #: 4246484
DRW1016IM? Internal 16X DVD+/-RW Double Layer 8.5GB DVD+/-RW Drive

Appears to be a 16X BTC drive.

Code:
    * Interface E-IDE/ATAPI , MMC compliant
    * Disc Data Capacity (CD) 74min/650MB, 80min/700MB
    * (DVD) Double Layer 8.5GB, Single layer 4.7GB
    * Supported Media for Writing DVD+R DL, DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW, DVD-RW, CD-R, CD-RW
    * Writing Format DVD+R DL, DVD+/-R, DVD+/-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-VideoCD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-Extra, CD-I, Mixed-Mode CD, Video CD, Photo CD, CD-TEXT, Bootable CD, CD-R, CD-RW, Multi-Session
    * Writing Methods Track at Once, Disc at Once, Session at Once, Multi-Session, Packet Writing(Variable & Fixed) , Multi-track Reservation
    * Writing speed (DVD+/-R) max. 16x ,(DVD+R DL) 4x
    * (DVD+RW) max. 8x , (DVD-RW) max. 4x
    * (CD-R) max. 48x, (CD-RW) max. 24x
    * Reading Speed (DVD+/-R) max. 8x, (DVD+/-RW) max. 8x
    * (CD-R) max. 48x, (CD-RW) max. 32x
    * (CD-ROM) max. 48x, (DVD-ROM) max. 16x
    * Data Transfer Rate Max. 66MB/sec
    * Access time (DVD) 160 ms (16X)
    * (CD) 130 ms (48X)
    * Data Buffer 2MB
    * Disc Loading Tray loader, dust sealed
    * Dimensions (WxHxD) 148.6 x 41.8 x 193.3 mm
    * Weight 1 Kg
    * Mounting method Horizontal
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Old 16-11-2004   #2
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

Ok this is definitely a BTC.
Model number on the drive sticker is 1016IM.
Also, the stickers on the drive look exactly like the stickers I have seen on other BTC drives.
Manufactured in China.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

Interesting write descriptors. 1X writing available on 16X media ??

Code:
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-004-000]
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Disc & Book Type :       [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name :      [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID :        [MCC]
Media Type ID :          [004]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]
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** INFO : An Empty Writable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Drive = DVDRW IDE 16X [FW A179]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW DVD-R DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:MCC-004-000]
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 22160 KBPS (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #2 = 19390 KBPS (14.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #3 = 16620 KBPS (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #4 = 13850 KBPS (10.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #5 = 11080 KBPS ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #6 =  8310 KBPS ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #7 =  5540 KBPS ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #8 =  3324 KBPS ( 2.40x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #9 =  1385 KBPS ( 1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
Descriptor #1 = 22160 KBPS (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #2 = 19390 KBPS (14.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #3 = 16620 KBPS (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #4 = 13850 KBPS (10.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #5 = 11080 KBPS ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #6 =  8310 KBPS ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #7 =  5540 KBPS ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
Descriptor #8 =  2770 KBPS ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] - [Invalid Entry]
Descriptor #9 =  1385 KBPS ( 1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] 
** WARNING : Drive May Have Returned Incorrect Descriptors
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** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 07 4d 43 43 00 00  00 00 00 30 30 34 00 38   ...MCC.....004.8
0020 : 23 54 37 11 02 3c 6e 02  84 68 15 15 0b 0b 08 08   #T7..<n..h......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 25 61 1a  05 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01   ..88.%a...#.....
0050 : 00 00 02 25 61 1a 05 2e  23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00   ...%a...#.......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 44 61 3c  24 14 0c 0c 01 20 00 00   ..Tp.Da<$.... ..
0070 : 00 00 02 5d 62 42 24 14  0c 0c 01 20 00 00 00 35   ...]bB$.... ...5
0080 : 03 00 54 df 02 44 61 3c  24 14 0c 0c 01 20 00 00   ..T..Da<$.... ..
0090 : 00 00 02 bc 66 58 24 14  0c 0c 01 20 00 00 00 9e   ....fX$.... ....
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

I updated the firmware to A07F.

Then I ran an MCC 004 create data disc test.
Started burning at 16X CAV, but then dropped to 12X CLV for the last portion of the disc.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

I ran some tests to determine supported write speeds on various DVD+R media.
DVD+R supported speeds:
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MCC004                  16X
CMCMAGM01                8X
PHILIPSC16              16X
RITEKR04                16X
YUDEN000T02              8X
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

Any results on writing quality?
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

PI/PIF scan on the MCC004 disc that was burned on this BTC drive:
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

Can you burn a DVD+RW at 8x?
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer

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Can you burn a DVD+RW at 8x?
I would expect to need one of the new 8X certified DVD+RWs for this, but I'll test with various 4X DVD+RW types tonight.
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Verbatim 8x DVD+RW media going to be expensive. Perhaps US$3 initially. 470GB for US$300. Just a little cheaper than Hitachi 400GB HDD.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Did I miss something. Which BTC drive can write 8x DVD+RW?
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

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Did I miss something. Which BTC drive can write 8x DVD+RW?
this one


The scan looks much better after dropping to 12x speed, will be interesting to see more results. I hope you post some more results here.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Transfer rate test on the above MCC004 disc.
Only 8X CAV read for recordables? bleh! Should be 16X like the NEC 3500!
Especially with the excellent reading capabilities of this drive.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Only 8X maximum write on both TYG02 and SONY08D1 DVD-R media.
16X DVD-R? on what?
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Only 8X maximum write on both TYG02 and SONY08D1 DVD-R media.
16X DVD-R? on what?
Why, on the side of the box of course...
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Wow, it actually beat LiteOn in that MCC004 test.

Then again, dropping to 12x helped.
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LOL! Aren't BTC and LO the last companies using MediaTek chipsets for their DVD burners?
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LOL! Aren't BTC and LO the last companies using MediaTek chipsets for their DVD burners?
Both use MTK but they are not the same companies.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

I am currently adding support for the BTC 1016 drive to my MediaCodeSpeedEdit tool. There is a problem with the -RW tables, the media code table is one entry shorter than the speed id table. It would be fine if someone having this drive and a DVD-RW disk could contact me by PM to figure this out.


Code:
Firmware: DVDRW   IDE 16X         A07F
Bootcode: 
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DVD+RDL supported media types: 4
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MKM      001-000 2.4x
PHILIPS  CD2-000 2.4x
PRODISC  D01-000 2.4x
RITEK    D01-000 2.4x

DVD+R supported media types: 93
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         001-000 4x
AML      001-000 4x
AML      002-000 8x,6x,4x
BEALL P0 001-000 2.4x
BeAll000 P40-000 4x
BeAll000 P80-000 4x
BeAll000 PG0-000 8x,6x,4x
CMC MAG  E01-000 8x,6x,4x
CMC MAG  F01-000 4x,2.4x
CMC MAG  F01-001 4x
CMC MAG  M01-000 8x,6x,4x
CMC MAG  R01-000 2.4x
DAXON    AZ1-001 4x
DAXON    AZ2-000 8x,6x,4x
DAXON    AZ3-000 8x,6x,4x
DDDessau V20-000 4x
DDDessau V30-000 4x
DDT 01   002-001 4x
DT-D02   02 -000 4x,2.4x
GSC502   002-000 4x
GSC503   H01-000 8x,6x,4x
INFODISC R10-002 4x
INFODISC R20-000 8x,6x,4x
INFOME   R20-000 8x,6x,4x
INFOME   R30-000 8x,6x,4x
IS01     001-000 4x
ISSM     001-000 4x
LD       001-000 2.4x
LD       A02-000 4x
LD       M04-000 8x,6x,4x
LD       S03-000 8x,6x,4x
LONGTEN  002-000 4x
LONGTEN  002-000 4x
MAM      M02-000 8x,6x,4x
MAM4XG01 001-000 4x
MAXELL   002-000 8x,6x,4x
MBIPG101 R03-000 4x,2.4x
MBIPG101 R04-001 8x,6x,4x
MBIPG101 R05-001 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
MCC      001-000 2.4x
MCC      002-000 4x
MCC      003-000 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
MCC      003-000 8x,6x,4x
MCC      004-000 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
MJC      003-000 4x
MPOMEDIA 040-000 4x,2.4x
MPOMEDIA 080-000 8x,6x,4x
MUST     002-000 4x
MUST     006-002 8x,6x,4x
MUST 002    -002 4x,2.4x
NANYA    CHX-000 4x
NANYA    CLX-000 4x
NANYA    RJB-000 4x
NSD      R40-000 8x,6x,4x
OPTODISC OP2-000 2.4x
OPTODISC OR4-000 4x
OPTODISC OR8-000 8x,6x,4x
PHILIPS  C08-000 8x,6x,4x
PHILIPS  C16-001 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
POMSA001 0R -000 4x
POMSC001 002-000 4x
POS      R01-000 8x,6x,4x
POS      R05-000 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
PRODISC  R01-001 2.4x
PRODISC  R02-000 4x
PRODISC  R03-003 8x,6x,4x
PRODISC  R04-004 8x,6x,4x
Philips  081-000 8x,6x,4x
Plasmon1 C01-000 8x,6x,4x
RICOHJPN R00-001 2.4x
RICOHJPN R01-002 4x,2.4x
RICOHJPN R02-003 8x,6x,4x
RITEK    M02-001 4x
RITEK    R01-001 2.4x
RITEK    R02-001 4x,2.4x
RITEK    R03-001 8x,6x,4x
RITEK    R04-001 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
SKYMEDIA R03-000 4x
SONY     D01-000 4x,2.4x
SONY     D11-000 8x,6x,4x
SONY     D21-000 16x,12x,8x,6x,4x,2.4x,1x
TDK      001-000 4x,2.4x
TDK      002-000 8x,6x,4x
TDK      003-000 8x,6x,4x
ULTRAN   202-000 8x,6x,4x
VDSPMSAB 001-001 4x
VDSPMSAB 002-001 4x
VIVA     002-000 8x,6x,4x
WFKA11   111-000 4x,2.4x
WINGSHIN 001-049 4x
YUDEN000 T01-000 4x,2.4x
YUDEN000 T01-001 4x
YUDEN000 T02-000 8x,6x,4x

DVD+RW supported media types: 27
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CMC MAG  W01-000 2.4x
CMC MAG  W02-000 4x,2.4x
DAXON    D42-000 4x,2.4x
INFODISC A01-001 2.4x
INFODISC A10-001 4x,2.4x
MBIPG101 W03-000 2.4x
MBIPG101 W04-000 4x,2.4x
MCC      A01-001 2.4x
MKM      A02-000 4x,2.4x
MKM      A03-000 4x,2.4x,1x
NANYA    DRW-000 4x,2.4x
NANYASC  DRW-001 2.4x
OPTODISC OP1-001 2.4x
OPTODISC OP4-001 4x,2.4x
PHILIPS  001-049 2.4x
PHILIPS  010-001 2.4x
PHILIPS  041-000 4x,2.4x
PHILIPS  RW8-000 4x,2.4x,1x
PRODISC  W01-000 2.4x
PRODISC  W02-000 4x,2.4x
RICOHJPN W01-000 2.4x
RICOHJPN W11-001 4x,2.4x
RITEK    001-001 2.4x
RITEK    004-048 4x,2.4x
SENTINEL W01-000 2.4x
SENTINEL W02-000 4x,2.4x
SONY     S11-000 4x,2.4x

DVD-R supported media types: 101
----------------------------------
4M SYS 202C1    4x
AML             4x
AN32            4x
BeAll G00001    2x
BeAll G40001    4x
BeAll G80001    4x
CMC MAG.        2x
CMC MAG. AE1    8x,6x,4x
CMC MAG. AF1    4x
DATA TRACK      4x
DAXON004        4x
DAXON008        8x,6x,4x
DAXON008S       8x,6x,4x
DDT01           4x
DKMZ01          8x,6x,4x
DKM_01          4x
Dvsn-80         8x,6x,4x
EDM 01          4x
ENGAGE 01       8x,6x,4x
FORNEX101       4x
FUJIFILM02      4x
FUJIFILM03      8x,6x,4x
GSC001          4x
GSC002          4x
GSC003          8x,6x,4x
GSC004          8x,6x,4x
INFODISC-R01    4x
INFODISC-R20    4x
INFOMEDIAR20    8x,6x,4x
INFOSMART01     4x
INFOSMART01     8x,6x,4x
ISSM     01     4x
KDTVVV          4x
LEADDATA S03    8x,6x,4x
LONGTEN 001     4x
LONGTEN 003     8x,6x,4x
LONGTEN 009     4x
MAM4XG01        4x
MAM4XG02        4x
MAM8XG01        4x
MBI             2x
MBI 01RG20      4x
MBI 03RG30      8x,6x,4x
MCC 00RG200     2x
MCC 01RG20      4x,2x
MCC 02RG20      8x,6x,4x
MCI4XG01        4x
ME 153          4x
MJC ME          8x,6x,4x
MUST 001        4x
MUST 003        8x,6x,4x
MXL RG01        2x
MXL RG02        8x,6x,4x
MXL RG03        8x,6x,4x
NAN             8x,6x,4x
ONIDTECH        4x
OPTODISCK001    2x
OPTODISCK001    4x
OPTODISCR004    4x
OPTODISCR008    8x,6x,4x
POMS3A          8x,6x,4x
POMSI002        8x,6x,4x
POSG04          4x
POSG06          8x,6x,4x
PRINCO          2x
PRINCO          4x
PRINCO8X02      8x,6x,4x
PRODISCG02      2x
PVC001001       2x
PVCR001002      4x,2x,1x
Plasmon1A       8x,6x,4x
ProdiscF01      8x,6x,4x
ProdiscS03      4x
ProdiscS04      8x,6x,4x
RITEKG03        2x
RITEKG04        4x
RITEKG04        4x
RITEKG05        8x,6x,4x
RITEKG06        8x,6x,4x
RITEKM02        4x
SKC Co.,Ltd.    2x
SONY            2x
SONY04D1        4x
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

...so, what is the final opinion here? As some may know, the BF Staples IO Magic drive is sometimes being delivered with the BTC 1016IM drive. Most people are just returning it. However, I am wondering just how good/bad the drive is. Is it possible that they need to flash to the latest BTC firmware to fix all of the errors they are seeing with the media?

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Old 30-11-2004   #21
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Latest firmware always helps
I personally have no "final" opinion on the drive.
I would need to test further to form any conclusions.
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Old 30-11-2004   #22
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Thank you...I hope the drive I get is the BenQ!

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Latest firmware always helps
I personally have no "final" opinion on the drive.
I would need to test further to form any conclusions.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

As you can see I have been playing with my Emprex drive and got the results below from a disk I burnt on it. Now this means nothing to me, can some explain it to me and is it good or bad?

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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

Accroding to the test result, I think it's the good one.
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Re: Emprex 16X DVD writer (BTC 1016IM)

I build & repair computers and have 4 networked in our home. I will NEVER EVER by anything with BTC or Emprex on it again. Emprex DVD-ROM drives from Fry's refused to update their firmware. 4 GB Microdrive overheats so that you cannot even xfer a large file. After using BTC/Emprex DVD writer, then switching to a BenQ, WOW!!! I had no idea how badly the BTC & Emprex were doing. I have come to the conclusion that there is a very good reason Fry's can sell BTC/Emprex stuff so cheap, because it IS cheap. Save your money and get something/anything else.
So far I am happy with our:
Sony DVD-Rom DDU1612
Lite-On DVD-Rom 166S
Lite-On CD Writer 52723S
BenQ DVD Writer 1640

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