Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD

arif1979 · 14-10-2006

Well, after researching several sites, it appears HD-DVD is supported by more companies than Blu-ray. I hope this isn't true as Blu-ray does seem like a better media from what I can tell (definitely from a storage amount standpoint: 50GB dual layer, 25GB single). However, I also read that supposedly HD-DVD is true HD whereas Blu-ray doesn't achieve true HD readings but very close...assuming one has a true HD TV as well as HD box.

I'm also posting a poll as to which format you intend to upgrade to once it is signficantly cheaper.

*DrageMester* · 15-10-2006

* * Added a fourth poll option: I don't know or haven't decided yet * *

arif1979 · 15-10-2006

Nice addition :-)

*minaelromany* · 15-10-2006

I prefer Blu-Ray just for storage capacity and the Blue color of media vs red for HD-DVD

**geno888** · 15-10-2006

I haven't decided yet. I'm still waiting for further developments

**Arachne** · 15-10-2006

Yep, I voted "haven't decided yet" - we'll see when things change a bit, i.e. prices of drives etc.

**geno888** · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachne

Yep, I voted "haven't decided yet" - we'll see when things change a bit, i.e. prices of drives etc.

You're waiting to see first scans here in the forum

*FidelC* · 15-10-2006

There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable.
..undesided..

**Arachne** · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by FidelC

There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable.
..undesided..

YES!!!

@Geno - scans, moi?

**geno888** · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachne

YES!!!

@Geno - scans, moi?

ehm.. let me think.... YESSSS

*DrageMester* · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by FidelC

There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable.

It's a nice suggestion.
I'll add such an option if arif1979 agrees.

arif1979 · 15-10-2006

I think the number of poll options is currently enough.

**Arachne** · 15-10-2006

Well, anyone choosing to wait til the media can be backed up can post in the thread, as myself and FidelC have done, I guess.

*minaelromany* · 15-10-2006

We should vote for the storage technology that is reliable with no degradation and with maximum durability that would hold our precious data safe forever

**Arachne** · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by minaelromany

We should vote for the storage technology that is reliable with no degradation and with maximum durability that would hold our precious data safe forever

Got a crystal ball on you?

**geno888** · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arachne

Got a crystal ball on you?

/me suggests Arachne to check where minaelromany comes from

pyramids still contains a lot of intormation after thousands of years

but what a burner it will be necessary to write data on stones

*minaelromany* · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by geno888

/me suggests Arachne to check where minaelromany comes from

pyramids still contains a lot of intormation after thousands of years

but what a burner it will be necessary to write data on stones

LOL@Arachne

Seriously though : don't you think that OD manufacturers should do some more effort to get durable storage discs that would realy end our problems ?

I myself have encountered numerous data loss from (HDDs , CDs and DVDs) and would realy like a solution

Is it realy hard for manufacturers to make a disc that is unbreakable , scratch proof and can hold data forever ?

Oh , maybe wishful thinking , but I like dreaming

*Qyngali* · 15-10-2006

Holographic?

Out of the available options I picked neither, but only because the fair use option was.. not an option.

*camellote* · 15-10-2006

Reloading Beta vs. VHs?

zevia · 15-10-2006

I chose Blu-ray because I already have the drive (Panasonic) and plenty of leftover BD-RE media from the reviews (thank to the senders).

*ForeverLearning* · 15-10-2006

I'm just sticking to DVD. I don't see the point of switching unless you have a HD TV.

*CJ2* · 15-10-2006

I expect it to take quite a while until we know what we get so i stock dvdr media and wait

*dakhaas* · 15-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by arif1979

Well, after researching several sites, it appears HD-DVD is supported by more companies than Blu-ray.

Not true at the moment.Keep in mind the following.
HD-DVD likes to list different devisions of the same parent companny as different compannies.
Also if you compare HD-DVD-R support list vs Blu Ray support list then blu ray still lists more compannies even if you don't pick out the different devisions.

Quote:

I hope this isn't true as Blu-ray does seem like a better media from what I can tell (definitely from a storage amount standpoint: 50GB dual layer, 25GB single). However, I also read that supposedly HD-DVD is true HD whereas Blu-ray doesn't achieve true HD readings but very close...assuming one has a true HD TV as well as HD box.

Untrue again.

Maybe we should start a FAQ on HD-DVD and BLu RAY and all known errors and rumours that are out there.!

*DrageMester* · 15-10-2006

* * One unproductive argument of six posts deleted * *

Let's keep a mutually respectful tone in here, please!

bear17 · 15-10-2006

Am I mistaken? I thought that HD-DVD was alot further ahead of Blu-ray in terms of ready to go. I have seen Blu-ray been pushed out ahead of time. It is trying, in my opinion, to beat HD-DVD to market. I think that this might cause problems if they have rushed it. Blu-ray is great technology but it leaves less room for error that HD-DVD.

View Poll Results: Which DVD format will you upgrade to when the price is reasonable?
HD-DVD	16	16.00%
Blu-ray	37	37.00%
Neither, I'll stick to DVD+/-R formats	13	13.00%
I don't know or haven't decided yet	34	34.00%
Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

14-10-2006	#1
arif1979 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD Well, after researching several sites, it appears HD-DVD is supported by more companies than Blu-ray. I hope this isn't true as Blu-ray does seem like a better media from what I can tell (definitely from a storage amount standpoint: 50GB dual layer, 25GB single). However, I also read that supposedly HD-DVD is true HD whereas Blu-ray doesn't achieve true HD readings but very close...assuming one has a true HD TV as well as HD box. I'm also posting a poll as to which format you intend to upgrade to once it is signficantly cheaper. __________________ AnyDVD 6.5.5.9 CloneDVD2 2.9.2.2 Nero 7 Ultra Media: Sony 16x DVD-R DVD Player: Toshiba RS-TX20 DVD Shrink 3.2 DVD Burner: LiteOn Internal 1653S Firmware CS0T

15-10-2006	#2
DrageMester Retired Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Honah Lee Posts: 19,887	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD * * Added a fourth poll option: I don't know or haven't decided yet * *

15-10-2006	#3
arif1979 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD Nice addition :-) __________________ AnyDVD 6.5.5.9 CloneDVD2 2.9.2.2 Nero 7 Ultra Media: Sony 16x DVD-R DVD Player: Toshiba RS-TX20 DVD Shrink 3.2 DVD Burner: LiteOn Internal 1653S Firmware CS0T

15-10-2006	#4
minaelromany MyCE Resident Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT Posts: 2,323	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD I prefer Blu-Ray just for storage capacity and the Blue color of media vs red for HD-DVD __________________ Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14 Asus Rampage III Extreme 6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire 3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital Seasonic X-850 NZXT Phantom Red Edition DVD Burners : Samsung 203B SB03 NEC Optiarc AD-7200S ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB LiteOn iHAS120 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media

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15-10-2006	#5
geno888 Senior Moderator, Editor and Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Italy Posts: 29,213	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD I haven't decided yet. I'm still waiting for further developments

15-10-2006	#6
Arachne Senior Administrator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tabby Towers, West of England Posts: 33,774	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD Yep, I voted "haven't decided yet" - we'll see when things change a bit, i.e. prices of drives etc. __________________ Current drives: Samsung SE-S084C (TS02) + Samsung SH-S223F (SB03 RPC1 + other goodies) + TSST (Samsung) TS-H653F (DW10) + Samsung SH-S203N (SB02 RPC1 + other goodies) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B + Pioneer DVR-115D My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join MyCE.com and be part of our friendly community! Smile...people will wonder what you're up to

15-10-2006	#8
FidelC CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2005 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 987	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD There should be an option "whichever one is first made Fair Use", i.e. backupable. ..undesided..

15-10-2006	#12
arif1979 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 156	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD I think the number of poll options is currently enough. __________________ AnyDVD 6.5.5.9 CloneDVD2 2.9.2.2 Nero 7 Ultra Media: Sony 16x DVD-R DVD Player: Toshiba RS-TX20 DVD Shrink 3.2 DVD Burner: LiteOn Internal 1653S Firmware CS0T

15-10-2006	#13
Arachne Senior Administrator & Reviewer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tabby Towers, West of England Posts: 33,774	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD Well, anyone choosing to wait til the media can be backed up can post in the thread, as myself and FidelC have done, I guess. __________________ Current drives: Samsung SE-S084C (TS02) + Samsung SH-S223F (SB03 RPC1 + other goodies) + TSST (Samsung) TS-H653F (DW10) + Samsung SH-S203N (SB02 RPC1 + other goodies) + Optiarc AD-5170S (1.12) + Litey LH-20A1H (LL0D) + Samsung SH-S182D (SB06 RPC1) x2 + LG E10N (JE07) + BenQ DW1650 (BCDC) + BenQ DW1640@164B (BEFB) + LG 4167B (DL13 TDB) + NEC ND-4551A (1.Z2) + LG GCE-8520B (1.00) + LiteOn SOHR-5239S (2S0B) Retired: LiteOn LDW-851@SOHW-832 + LiteOn SOHW-1693S + LG 4163B + Pioneer DVR-115D My Review PCs How to delete your upper and lower filters : How to check/enable DMA by Womble Click here to join MyCE.com and be part of our friendly community! Smile...people will wonder what you're up to

15-10-2006	#14
minaelromany MyCE Resident Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT Posts: 2,323	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD We should vote for the storage technology that is reliable with no degradation and with maximum durability that would hold our precious data safe forever __________________ Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14 Asus Rampage III Extreme 6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire 3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital Seasonic X-850 NZXT Phantom Red Edition DVD Burners : Samsung 203B SB03 NEC Optiarc AD-7200S ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB LiteOn iHAS120 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media

15-10-2006	#18
Qyngali CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: No(r)way Posts: 684	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD Holographic? Out of the available options I picked neither, but only because the fair use option was.. not an option. __________________ A computer program will always do what you tell it to do, but rarely what you want it to do.

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15-10-2006	#22
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15-10-2006	#20
zevia Retired Senior Administrator and Review Coordinator USA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 10,476	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD I chose Blu-ray because I already have the drive (Panasonic) and plenty of leftover BD-RE media from the reviews (thank to the senders). __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray \| LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

15-10-2006	#21
ForeverLearning CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 528	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD I'm just sticking to DVD. I don't see the point of switching unless you have a HD TV.

15-10-2006	#24
DrageMester Retired Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Honah Lee Posts: 19,887	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD * * One unproductive argument of six posts deleted * * Let's keep a mutually respectful tone in here, please!

15-10-2006	#25
bear17 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 207	Re: Blu-Ray Vs HD-DVD Am I mistaken? I thought that HD-DVD was alot further ahead of Blu-ray in terms of ready to go. I have seen Blu-ray been pushed out ahead of time. It is trying, in my opinion, to beat HD-DVD to market. I think that this might cause problems if they have rushed it. Blu-ray is great technology but it leaves less room for error that HD-DVD.

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