Benq 1655 or Pioneer 111 with Benq 1640 ?!

*minaelromany* · 02-10-2006

Hi

I am having a problem deciding what drive would I get as a second writer with my 1640 .
Forget the sig , I've already sold my Pio 110 , it was bad experience for me .
I've read reviews on both drives but still couldn't decide . I have the option to get either :

Benq 1655 Beige (Retail)

Or :

Asus DRW 1608P3 (Retail - Pioneer 111 OEM) and crossflash it to 111L .

I want the drive to have :

-The best writing quality with :
TY +R 8X (T02) media
Prodisc-made Verbatim 16X +R MCC 004 media
TY -R 16X (TYG03) media
HP CMC MAG E01 +R 8X media
Benq DAXON AZ2 +R 8X media

-Very good writing quality with Benq DAXON CD-R media (My Benq 1640 would write them but they would not work with my Creative CD-MP3 player !

)

-LightScribe would be a nice feature to have .(We have LS media here)
-LabelFlash would be a nice feature to have .(We don't have LF media here)
-DVD-RAM support would be another nice feature to have

What do you think ?

kassandro · 05-10-2006

I have both drives, the Pioneer DVR-111 and the BenQ 1655.
As far as MCC004 media are concerned, the BenQ is ahead of the Pio. PIE levels are somewhat higher for the Pio, otherwise there is no significant difference. This applies to discs made in Taiwan and made in India likewise, but I don't know how to decide whether the discs made in Taiwan are from Prodisc. The MCC004 discs made in India are clearly better.
I also burned a lot of DAXON AZ2 +R 8X media. Again the BenQ is slightly ahead of the Pio. The scan results of the BenQ 1655 and the BenQ 1620 are very similar for this kind of media. I also observed that the quality of these discs varies quite strongly from one cake box to another. However, within a single cake box the quality of these media is quite constant. My NEC 4550A writes these media even slightly better than the BenQ 1655.
Both, the BenQ 1655 and Pioneer DVR-111 are fairly cool DVD writers (compared with the BenQ 1620). The Pioneer DVR-111 writes more silently. It writes also faster than BenQ but slower than my NEC 4571A. While the tray slides out smoothly from the BenQ 1655 it slides out roughly from the Pioneer DVR-111.
For most other media the Pio is in front of the BenQ. Thus, since you already have a very similar BenQ 1640 I would recommend the Pioneer DVR-111.

*minaelromany* · 05-10-2006

Thank you very much for your comprehensive reply

So , my 1640 should be similar in performance with to the 1655 thus I should get a different drive ?
I was about to get the Asus (Pioneer 111) but the owner of the hardware store (a friend of mine btw) gave me a NEC 3570 to try , I crossflashed it to 4571 (same as yours) but haven't burnt anything with it yet .
I've read the reviews on both the NEC and Pioneer and te Pioneer seems alot better , what do you think ?

tzuyang · 09-10-2006

i am deciding about this question as well
Benq vs Pioneer
could anyone try out TY G01 DVD-R 4x ? i have a few of these. and at what speed could each of them write?
cheers!

*etp* · 09-10-2006

If you need a master then get the 111/first rate drive and can be crossflashed to a peanut butter sandwitch. The 1650/1655 is a great slave. Have both as well as the 1640 and 110 and 109. I think the 1640 is the best BQ made so far. Depends on your set up and price you pay. Get the cheapest and also consider some of the other fine 16X drives at Newegg.com. Some like the Liteon, Samsung, LG. I just need some cheap SATA drives at this point in time.

*minaelromany* · 09-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by etp

If you need a master then get the 111/first rate drive and can be crossflashed to a peanut butter sandwitch. The 1650/1655 is a great slave. Have both as well as the 1640 and 110 and 109. I think the 1640 is the best BQ made so far. Depends on your set up and price you pay. Get the cheapest and also consider some of the other fine 16X drives at Newegg.com. Some like the Liteon, Samsung, LG. I just need some cheap SATA drives at this point in time.

I can't order online , my only option is retail computer store here in Egypt .
We only have few models in the market :
Asus 1608P3S (Pioneer 111)
Benq 1655
NEC 3570
Samsung 162
LG 4167B

I already have the 1640 and from what I read here it is the best Benq ever , so I decided to go with the Pioneer 111 .
I've also had 108 , 109 and 110 before , 108 was the best then the 109 but the 110 was crap (for me at least compared to the 1640) .

02-10-2006	#1
minaelromany MyCE Resident Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT Posts: 2,323	Benq 1655 or Pioneer 111 with Benq 1640 ?! Hi I am having a problem deciding what drive would I get as a second writer with my 1640 . Forget the sig , I've already sold my Pio 110 , it was bad experience for me . I've read reviews on both drives but still couldn't decide . I have the option to get either : Benq 1655 Beige (Retail) Or : Asus DRW 1608P3 (Retail - Pioneer 111 OEM) and crossflash it to 111L . I want the drive to have : -The best writing quality with : TY +R 8X (T02) media Prodisc-made Verbatim 16X +R MCC 004 media TY -R 16X (TYG03) media HP CMC MAG E01 +R 8X media Benq DAXON AZ2 +R 8X media -Very good writing quality with Benq DAXON CD-R media (My Benq 1640 would write them but they would not work with my Creative CD-MP3 player ! ) -LightScribe would be a nice feature to have .(We have LS media here) -LabelFlash would be a nice feature to have .(We don't have LF media here) -DVD-RAM support would be another nice feature to have What do you think ? __________________ Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14 Asus Rampage III Extreme 6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire 3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital Seasonic X-850 NZXT Phantom Red Edition DVD Burners : Samsung 203B SB03 NEC Optiarc AD-7200S ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB LiteOn iHAS120 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media

05-10-2006	#2
kassandro CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 174	Re: Benq 1655 or Pioneer 111 with Benq 1640 ?! I have both drives, the Pioneer DVR-111 and the BenQ 1655. As far as MCC004 media are concerned, the BenQ is ahead of the Pio. PIE levels are somewhat higher for the Pio, otherwise there is no significant difference. This applies to discs made in Taiwan and made in India likewise, but I don't know how to decide whether the discs made in Taiwan are from Prodisc. The MCC004 discs made in India are clearly better. I also burned a lot of DAXON AZ2 +R 8X media. Again the BenQ is slightly ahead of the Pio. The scan results of the BenQ 1655 and the BenQ 1620 are very similar for this kind of media. I also observed that the quality of these discs varies quite strongly from one cake box to another. However, within a single cake box the quality of these media is quite constant. My NEC 4550A writes these media even slightly better than the BenQ 1655. Both, the BenQ 1655 and Pioneer DVR-111 are fairly cool DVD writers (compared with the BenQ 1620). The Pioneer DVR-111 writes more silently. It writes also faster than BenQ but slower than my NEC 4571A. While the tray slides out smoothly from the BenQ 1655 it slides out roughly from the Pioneer DVR-111. For most other media the Pio is in front of the BenQ. Thus, since you already have a very similar BenQ 1640 I would recommend the Pioneer DVR-111. __________________ BenQ 1620, 1655 LG H22N Liteon LH-18A1P NEC 4550A Pioneer DVR-111

05-10-2006	#3
minaelromany MyCE Resident Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: EGYPT Posts: 2,323	Re: Benq 1655 or Pioneer 111 with Benq 1640 ?! Thank you very much for your comprehensive reply So , my 1640 should be similar in performance with to the 1655 thus I should get a different drive ? I was about to get the Asus (Pioneer 111) but the owner of the hardware store (a friend of mine btw) gave me a NEC 3570 to try , I crossflashed it to 4571 (same as yours) but haven't burnt anything with it yet . I've read the reviews on both the NEC and Pioneer and te Pioneer seems alot better , what do you think ? __________________ Core i7 920 @4.25 with Noctua NH-D14 Asus Rampage III Extreme 6GB Triple Channel OCZ Blade DDR3 2025 9-9-9-24-1T HD6990+HD6970@950Mhz/6Ghz GDDR5! Tri-Fire 3 BenQ 2420HD 1080p 24" Widescreen LCD in Eyefinity OCZ Vertex 2 50GB SSD + 3x1.0TB WD Black+WD 1.0TB Green+640GB WD Blue X-Fi Titanium-Cambridge SoundWorks DTT 3500 Digital Seasonic X-850 NZXT Phantom Red Edition DVD Burners : Samsung 203B SB03 NEC Optiarc AD-7200S ASUS 1608P3S@Pioneer 111L 8.29 Sony 810A@Benq 1640 BSLB Retail Benq 1640 BSLB LiteOn iHAS120 Best Media : Panasonic TYG03 / Samsung Pleomax OPTODISC R16 / Verbatim MCC004 / CMC MAG E01 Boycott every faked/low quality media

09-10-2006	#4
tzuyang New on Forum Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 14	Re: Benq 1655 or Pioneer 111 with Benq 1640 ?! i am deciding about this question as well Benq vs Pioneer could anyone try out TY G01 DVD-R 4x ? i have a few of these. and at what speed could each of them write? cheers!

09-10-2006	#5
etp MyCE Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: fl Posts: 3,755	Re: Benq 1655 or Pioneer 111 with Benq 1640 ?! If you need a master then get the 111/first rate drive and can be crossflashed to a peanut butter sandwitch. The 1650/1655 is a great slave. Have both as well as the 1640 and 110 and 109. I think the 1640 is the best BQ made so far. Depends on your set up and price you pay. Get the cheapest and also consider some of the other fine 16X drives at Newegg.com. Some like the Liteon, Samsung, LG. I just need some cheap SATA drives at this point in time. __________________ Samsung 32/550, Samsung 55/8000, Samsung 52/850, LG GBW-H20L ,WH08LS20, PS3, SONY 350, TOSHIBA HD, HANNS 28.5/ HK7200 receiver/DELL 530s BD&9200, HP WEB printer, Sony Vaio 270

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