BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide

zevia · 27-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by pulsation

Hopefully the experts here can help me out. I am attempting to take a HD-DVD movie, which has already been split into five .TS files, and convert them into a Blu-Ray compatible format that can be watched on my PS3.

I read that this is doable but the procedures are very long so I haven't try it yet. But I'm interested in knowing how you convert HD DVD to Blu-ray TS files.

Quote:

Are all the streams necessary to hear the soundtrack?

I don't think so. In many cases I only select one audio stream (PCM or even DD) and it works. But the source file are from blu-ray's .m2ts.

Maybe worth a try:
- Can you playback the .ts file on your PC and does the audio work?
- how about demuxing the DD audio stream to an ac3 file and playback, can you hear the audio?

*_chef_* · 27-11-2007

I would try with mediaplayerclassic, this also works for my dvb-s1/2 pvr recordings.

pulsation · 27-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zevia

I read that this is doable but the procedures are very long so I haven't try it yet. But I'm interested in knowing how you convert HD DVD to Blu-ray TS files.

I don't think so. In many cases I only select one audio stream (PCM or even DD) and it works. But the source file are from blu-ray's .m2ts.

Maybe worth a try:
- Can you playback the .ts file on your PC and does the audio work?
- how about demuxing the DD audio stream to an ac3 file and playback, can you hear the audio?

The .ts files play perfectly with the latest version of PowerDVD. I get flawless audio and video. So I know the problem is either in remuxing the file to a blu-ray format or actually burning the DVD-R disc.

*CDan* · 27-11-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by pulsation

Hopefully the experts here can help me out. I am attempting to take a HD-DVD movie, which has already been split into five .TS files, and convert them into a Blu-Ray compatible format that can be watched on my PS3.

LOL, I want to figure out how to do the opposite. Rip BD video and convert to format that will play on my HD-DVD player.

*_chef_* · 28-11-2007

CDan, maybe you could use some WinonCD version which is able to burn HD-DVD and HD-DVD on DVD....

ajaxr · 02-12-2007

I've followed all the steps from the guide and managed to burn the blu-ray rip on the dvd. It plays flawless on the pc. On the other hand, the ps3 (fw 2.1) recognizes the the dvd as AVCHD dvd-rw but the playback is full of artifacts.
Anybody has any idea?
Thanks.

*_chef_* · 02-12-2007

Which media have you used? Did you do a quality scan?

*SamuriHL* · 02-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajaxr

I've followed all the steps from the guide and managed to burn the blu-ray rip on the dvd. It plays flawless on the pc. On the other hand, the ps3 (fw 2.1) recognizes the the dvd as AVCHD dvd-rw but the playback is full of artifacts.
Anybody has any idea?
Thanks.

What title is it? If it's a BD+ protected title this is exactly the kind of thing you'll see.

ajaxr · 03-12-2007

I used a cheap media but the result was the same when I played the m2ts file on the ps3 using an external hd.
The bd was live free or die hard. I used anydvd hd to save it on the hard disk and it doesn't show any artifact when I play it on the pc.
I did the same process with a mpeg-2 bd (little man) and it plays flawless on both the computer and the ps3.
I also played the 1 min cars m2ts file on the ps3 and it showed a few artifacts for less then a second, the rest of the clip was perfect (59 sec).
Thanks for the replies.

*SamuriHL* · 03-12-2007

Live Free or Die Hard has BD+ protection on it. So while you can play it in PowerDVD Ultra after ripping it with AnyDVD HD, the BD+ protection isn't removed so you can't process the m2ts. Hopefully Slysoft will get a true solution for BD+ titles out sometime soon.

zevia · 03-12-2007

Thanks for confirming SamuriHL. Yes BD+ title (ie Fantastic 4, Live Free or Die Hard) is a problem right now, even burning on BD-R/RE will show artifacts/pixelate every 2-3 seconds.

*SamuriHL* · 03-12-2007

Yea, I don't understand the BD-R/RE issue at all. It plays from a BD-R/RE in PowerDVD Ultra from what I've read (I don't have any burners for HD media myself) but it won't play on the PS3 which is odd. Like I said, Slysoft appears to be working on it and should have a more permanent fix at some point that'll remove it altogether. I can understand why they don't like BD, but, that's another topic in and of itself. In any case, this very sweet method of backup will work on all non-BD+ protected titles.

zevia · 03-12-2007

SamuriHL, I can confirm that with BD+ movies, playback from harddrive or BD-R/RE on PC is not 100% fine, no artifacts but more like skipping or pauses every few seconds.

ajaxr · 03-12-2007

the live free or die hard bd rip did freeze a lot on my pc, but it showed no artifacts so I thought the problem was with my old video card which I'm upgrading soon. So I guess the problem is realy this bd+ protection.
thanks guys

*SamuriHL* · 03-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zevia

SamuriHL, I can confirm that with BD+ movies, playback from harddrive or BD-R/RE on PC is not 100% fine, no artifacts but more like skipping or pauses every few seconds.

Fascinating. The only BD+ title I have right now is FF:RotSS and that plays just fine for me. I'm sure I'll run into this issue as I buy future Fox titles.

stef73 · 05-12-2007

i know this is random but what i want to do is use something that will join .m2ts files together. i dont want to put them onto dvd like here, what i need is to put them onto bd-re when i rip the bluray to the hdd with dvdfab hd ive got all the files and folders so when i use tsremux i need to be able to put more than one m2ts stream in the bd structure it makes if that makes any sense please help im new to this and have been trying alsorts all week so any and all help would be greatly appreciated tia.

*MegaDETH* · 08-12-2007

Just converted Underworld Evolution over to DVD last nigh.

Worked like a charm!

*SamuriHL* · 09-12-2007

So, I'm just now getting around to trying a variation on this theme. Here's what I'm attempting:

-Ripped the ISO from the PS3 to my external NTFS formatted hard drive.
-Opened the m2ts with tsremux and selected the AVC video stream and 2 of the audio tracks.
-Set it to Blu-ray output to create a new Blu-ray file structure of just the main movie and a couple audio tracks

Once that's done my plan is to use Nero 8 to make an ISO image of the newly created file structure on the hard drive. The point of this? I want to create a smaller, movie only ISO image of my Blu-ray disc to store on my HTPC.

NOTE: Currently this process will *NOT* work on BD+ protected discs as I'm sure we're all aware. At some point I am hopeful that Slysoft will eliminate that problem for us, as well.

Anyway, I'll post back tomorrow to let you know if this concept will work. (I can't see why it wouldn't...it's the same process as originally posted except splitting and burning to DVD). The big question is how small can I make the 37 gig m2ts stream using this process. I'm guessing it should be quite a bit smaller, however, I DID keep the lossless audio. I probably won't do that in the future because I don't have equipment that can utilize that anyway.

zevia · 09-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

The big question is how small can I make the 37 gig m2ts stream using this process. I'm guessing it should be quite a bit smaller, however, I DID keep the lossless audio. I probably won't do that in the future because I don't have equipment that can utilize that anyway.

The lossless PCM or DTS-HD can be really big, around 4-6GB for a long 2-3hrs movie, so if you uncheck PCM and choose only one of the DD, you can save a lot.

*SamuriHL* · 11-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by zevia

The lossless PCM or DTS-HD can be really big, around 4-6GB for a long 2-3hrs movie, so if you uncheck PCM and choose only one of the DD, you can save a lot.

Yes indeed. I chose the TrueHD track and the AVC video stream and created a new Blu-ray structure out of that. I created an ISO using Nero 8 Blu-ray setting. When I mount the image in Daemon Tools and try to play it back it plays for about 3 seconds and completely locks up PowerDVD. sigh. So, my experiment did not succeed and I'm not sure where the problem lies just yet. Very frustrating.

zevia · 11-12-2007

I supposed that you don't have a blu-ray player or PS3 to test, SamuriHL?

Edit: What title is it if you don't mind, maybe I can try it out.

*SamuriHL* · 11-12-2007

I have a PS3 which is how I rip my movies in the first place. However, since I don't have any way of burning media then I can't really do much to test it other than mount the ISO and play it in PowerDVD. That's exactly my goal anyway so if it doesn't work there it's not good to me even if it did work on the PS3. I'll attempt it again and see what I can come up with. I know...split it and burn it to DVD, right?

sigh...I wanted to avoid doing that.

zevia · 11-12-2007

Do you have an external harddrive with USB2 by any chance? Or a big (1-2GB) USB stick. I once tried tsremux and cancel after I see the m2ts around 500mb, then copy the m2ts to the usb stick, plug it in and playback on the ps3. Works for "testing" before burning.

*SamuriHL* · 11-12-2007

It can play the m2ts file directly?!?!?! I didn't know that. Well then. I'll have to try that.

zevia · 11-12-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

It can play the m2ts file directly?!?!?!

On PS3, yes it can, both .m2ts and .ts files!

In my experience, if you plug in USB stick (or USB external harddrive), it wont recognize it as BDMV or AVCHD discs, so you need to "browse all" and it will show the files. Click on one of them and voila!

27-11-2007	#27
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide I would try with mediaplayerclassic, this also works for my dvb-s1/2 pvr recordings. __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

28-11-2007	#30
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide CDan, maybe you could use some WinonCD version which is able to burn HD-DVD and HD-DVD on DVD.... __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

02-12-2007	#31
ajaxr New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide I've followed all the steps from the guide and managed to burn the blu-ray rip on the dvd. It plays flawless on the pc. On the other hand, the ps3 (fw 2.1) recognizes the the dvd as AVCHD dvd-rw but the playback is full of artifacts. Anybody has any idea? Thanks.

02-12-2007	#32
_chef_ MyCE Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: @FX labs .de ...playing LLAMATRON :-] Posts: 30,613	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide Which media have you used? Did you do a quality scan? __________________ Enable DMA with micrAp$0ft Enable DMA free at your will busTRACE => Upper/Lower Filters Util DevCon *HOW TO ... Delete the Upper & Lower Filters!* If you expect help then please use the powerful SEARCH. Try ThreatFire I am looking for DVD-R for Authoring & HD DVD media. Please PM me if you can help me. Vamos Tribbles! V-a-m-o-s!!

03-12-2007	#34
ajaxr New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide I used a cheap media but the result was the same when I played the m2ts file on the ps3 using an external hd. The bd was live free or die hard. I used anydvd hd to save it on the hard disk and it doesn't show any artifact when I play it on the pc. I did the same process with a mpeg-2 bd (little man) and it plays flawless on both the computer and the ps3. I also played the 1 min cars m2ts file on the ps3 and it showed a few artifacts for less then a second, the rest of the clip was perfect (59 sec). Thanks for the replies.

03-12-2007	#35
SamuriHL MyCE Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,900	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide Live Free or Die Hard has BD+ protection on it. So while you can play it in PowerDVD Ultra after ripping it with AnyDVD HD, the BD+ protection isn't removed so you can't process the m2ts. Hopefully Slysoft will get a true solution for BD+ titles out sometime soon. __________________ -Sony VAIO FW Series running Windows 7 ["There can be only one!"]

03-12-2007	#36
zevia Retired Senior Administrator and Review Coordinator USA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 10,476	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide Thanks for confirming SamuriHL. Yes BD+ title (ie Fantastic 4, Live Free or Die Hard) is a problem right now, even burning on BD-R/RE will show artifacts/pixelate every 2-3 seconds. __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray \| LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

03-12-2007	#37
SamuriHL MyCE Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,900	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide Yea, I don't understand the BD-R/RE issue at all. It plays from a BD-R/RE in PowerDVD Ultra from what I've read (I don't have any burners for HD media myself) but it won't play on the PS3 which is odd. Like I said, Slysoft appears to be working on it and should have a more permanent fix at some point that'll remove it altogether. I can understand why they don't like BD, but, that's another topic in and of itself. In any case, this very sweet method of backup will work on all non-BD+ protected titles. __________________ -Sony VAIO FW Series running Windows 7 ["There can be only one!"]

03-12-2007	#38
zevia Retired Senior Administrator and Review Coordinator USA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 10,476	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide SamuriHL, I can confirm that with BD+ movies, playback from harddrive or BD-R/RE on PC is not 100% fine, no artifacts but more like skipping or pauses every few seconds. __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray \| LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

05-12-2007	#41
stef73 New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 12	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide i know this is random but what i want to do is use something that will join .m2ts files together. i dont want to put them onto dvd like here, what i need is to put them onto bd-re when i rip the bluray to the hdd with dvdfab hd ive got all the files and folders so when i use tsremux i need to be able to put more than one m2ts stream in the bd structure it makes if that makes any sense please help im new to this and have been trying alsorts all week so any and all help would be greatly appreciated tia.

08-12-2007	#42
MegaDETH Retired Senior Moderator and Senior Reviewer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Watertown Posts: 4,873	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide Just converted Underworld Evolution over to DVD last nigh. Worked like a charm!

09-12-2007	#43
SamuriHL MyCE Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,900	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide So, I'm just now getting around to trying a variation on this theme. Here's what I'm attempting: -Ripped the ISO from the PS3 to my external NTFS formatted hard drive. -Opened the m2ts with tsremux and selected the AVC video stream and 2 of the audio tracks. -Set it to Blu-ray output to create a new Blu-ray file structure of just the main movie and a couple audio tracks Once that's done my plan is to use Nero 8 to make an ISO image of the newly created file structure on the hard drive. The point of this? I want to create a smaller, movie only ISO image of my Blu-ray disc to store on my HTPC. NOTE: Currently this process will NOT work on BD+ protected discs as I'm sure we're all aware. At some point I am hopeful that Slysoft will eliminate that problem for us, as well. Anyway, I'll post back tomorrow to let you know if this concept will work. (I can't see why it wouldn't...it's the same process as originally posted except splitting and burning to DVD). The big question is how small can I make the 37 gig m2ts stream using this process. I'm guessing it should be quite a bit smaller, however, I DID keep the lossless audio. I probably won't do that in the future because I don't have equipment that can utilize that anyway. __________________ -Sony VAIO FW Series running Windows 7 ["There can be only one!"]

11-12-2007	#46
zevia Retired Senior Administrator and Review Coordinator USA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 10,476	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide I supposed that you don't have a blu-ray player or PS3 to test, SamuriHL? Edit: What title is it if you don't mind, maybe I can try it out. __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray \| LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

11-12-2007	#48
zevia Retired Senior Administrator and Review Coordinator USA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: USA Posts: 10,476	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide Do you have an external harddrive with USB2 by any chance? Or a big (1-2GB) USB stick. I once tried tsremux and cancel after I see the m2ts around 500mb, then copy the m2ts to the usb stick, plug it in and playback on the ps3. Works for "testing" before burning. __________________ Click here to join CDFreaks.com Join CDFreaks Distributed Computing Team, have fun while helping to save some lives! My review PC & Specs & Media Blu-ray to DVD guide Forum Rules \| Blu-ray UDF Driver BenQ/Philips FAQ and tools: BQFlasher, MCSE, WOPC Tool, WinDWFlash LG BE06LU11 Blu-ray \| LG GGW-H10N Blu-ray/HD-DVD \| LG GBW-H10N Blu-ray \| Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray

11-12-2007	#49
SamuriHL MyCE Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,900	Re: BD2DVD: Blu-ray to DVD guide It can play the m2ts file directly?!?!?! I didn't know that. Well then. I'll have to try that. __________________ -Sony VAIO FW Series running Windows 7 ["There can be only one!"]

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