Asus BW-12B1ST (iHBS112) + LGEBRA-S06?

Kushna · 01-08-2012

Hi all,

I got my first Blu-Ray Writer ASUS BW-12B1ST last week, did some research, and found out it's an iHBS112 rebadge.

Also bought a pack of Vinpower Optical Quantum 6x OQBDR06LT-25, which turned out to be LGEBRA-S06-000, which some people have some good results and some bad.

Been having issues since Day 1...

Tried ImgBurn, bundled Power2Go7, and Nero 10. Basically I was trying to back up some files to around 90% mark, and in all programs it burned fine on 4x. However, all failed eventually at around 60%-70% into verification. Verification is also painfully slow @ 1x-2x max.

Also tried crossflashing to iHBS112's PL05 out of desperation, and it still failed like the other attempts.

4 coasters so far out of 4 attempts

:
ImgBurn (Asus FW) - Disc unreadable afterwards
Power2Go7 (Asus FW) - Corrupted files (disc spinning but reading speed drops to 0MB/s)
Power2Go7 (PL05) - Corrupted files
Nero 10 (PL05) - Corrupted files

Right now I'm trying to determine whether it's the drive that may be bad, or just the media that's poor in quality, or maybe this drive/firmware combination doesn't like this particular type of media...

Any suggestions?

**vroom** · 01-08-2012

Hi Kushna and welcome.
You can try to burn an rewritable BD discs if you have one, if that fails that it's the drive, or you can also try some better media.

**deanwitty** · 02-08-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushna

Hi all,

I got my first Blu-Ray Writer ASUS BW-12B1ST last week, did some research, and found out it's an iHBS112 rebadge.

Also bought a pack of Vinpower Optical Quantum 6x OQBDR06LT-25, which turned out to be LGEBRA-S06-000, which some people have some good results and some bad.

Been having issues since Day 1...

Any suggestions?

Welcome to the forum

Don't use Vinpower/Optical Quantum BD-R. I'm sorry to hear that they are still packaging some of the lowest grade BD-R available to maximize their profits. I was forced to throw away several of their spindles when they were packaging some of the lowest quality PHILIPR04 BD-R's around. I've got a spindle of 6x S06 which also turned out to be very disappointing. The worst burning BD-R I've run across.

It's a shame you chose to gamble on one of the riskiest media brands for your first burns

. Two low cost options that should be much safer bets would be Smartblu 4x or Melody(Infomedia) 4x .

You may want to have a look at your Imgburn burn graphs to see if your computer is struggling in any way to burn the discs, but your problem is most likely due to the media.

Kushna · 02-08-2012

Thanks vroom and deanwitty!

The Optical Quantum came at a bundle price... and some of the reviews I've seen on the retailer site were decent (I'm thinking those are probably the batch that's of higher grade media comparing to this one)... just my luck

Long story short, I didn't get to test on BD-RE but managed to find some Verbatim 6x to try instead. 2 out of 2 attempts both burned and verified correctly. I'm happy and sad at the same time lol

Not too sure what I can do with the rest of the Vinpower spindle... Don't think it'll help if I contact them and give them a piece of my mind though

Maybe I'll play with these on an LG drive and see their performance... LGEBRA indicated an LG media, I suppose? I presume they'd work better on a machine of same brand

**Albert** · 02-08-2012

Indeed, it is an LG Electronics disc model.

You may try them with an LG, but don't get your hopes too high; the Asus/LiteOn should have equally good support. (If not, it would be a bit of a surprise.)

Good luck with your tests, though.

Also, you could try to give the Optical Quantum folks a bit of your mind. Maybe they could help rectify the situation, at least a bit. Even if they didn't, you would know you tried.

Kushna · 02-08-2012

Hi Albert!

Just tried with an LG burner GGW-H20L and it failed like any other attempts, 90% into verification. Unbelievable!

I think it's safe to assume it's highly likely a media issue... What do you guys usually do when running across some poor media spindles? Bite the bullet? I don't think retailers are willing to deal with blank media problems like this...

**deanwitty** · 02-08-2012

Glad to hear you succeeded with some good media. Doesn't sound like a hardware problem. No connection between your LG burner and those made in China S06 BD-R's unfortunately. I would certainly report a 100% failure rate with the media on 2 different burners to the seller

.

**Albert** · 02-08-2012

Indeed. I know Verbatim is quick to see a problem fixed, and I think I have seen other customer relations groups eager to resolve problems that are 100% failures, so just stick with it and you should get some sort of reply.

Kushna · 02-08-2012

I've sent something to Vinpower and they replied faster than I thought.

The rep first asked me the firmware versions of the drive and then is now asking me for ImgBurn logs.

Funny how they asked for the LG drive burn logs instead of the LiteOn;-)
I guess I'll see how it goes. Very interesting to see what I can get out of this. I should probably nag the retailer again as well.

**deanwitty** · 03-08-2012

Very glad to hear that you chose to make some noise about this

.

I hope you are able to get the seller to replace them with a different media.

Thanks for the heads-up about Optical Quantum packaging LG S06's now. I was afraid we would be seeing this, as it seems that more Chinese manufacturers are pushing them out now. Becoming more common in the Asian markets that I watch, and the samples I've tested have been really low quality. But they are dirt cheap, and apparently irresistible for their profit potential to companies like Vinpower/Optical Quantum.

Kushna · 04-08-2012

Managed to get a really flaky completed burn and verification when trying to generate the ImgBurn log. Even after verification 100% some files started failing to be read when I test them for CRC like 10 minutes later... It's almost if these discs degrade at a phenomenal rate.

But since I got a successful burn, I figure might as well get an ODC Disc Quality run. Here it is. Rather lousy result I should say...

PS Sorry for the Screenshot dimension. Been having difficulty using the Screenshot function in ODC. It always captured the file window leaving a huge white blank...

Here's the technical info from the scan:

Code:

      LDC       BIS     Jitter 
avg   1003.07   20.52   15.9% 
max   2310      59      18.3% 
Total 373645184 7643153  

Position 23281 MB 
Samples 372138 
Speed 4.15 X

Kushna · 04-08-2012

This is the ODC result from VERBATIMe media that burned successfully, just to verify that it's not my drive's scanning capability.

**deanwitty** · 04-08-2012

Try a screen capture with the floppy disc icon without the ODC window being maximized(click the "restore down" square icon). Save as .png file. If that fails, download FScapture 5.3, use the "capture active window" or "capture rectangle region" button and save as a png file. Again, you do not want to save with the program window maximized.

Is there any hub code visible on the S06 discs you have?

Kushna · 04-08-2012

Hub code: R3 G6D C1H1 1201150630

Stamper code: IR6LCMA-1104

Re did the scans and captured screenshots successfully: (1st: LGEBRA-S06; 2nd: VERBATIMe) Both burned @ 4x and scanned @ 4x.

**deanwitty** · 05-08-2012

Thanks. This is a wonderful example of just how valuable a scanning drive can be. You just know that there are many others who are buying those Optical Quantums and thinking "hey, I got a few coasters, but they were cheap so that's not too bad". Never realizing that the "successful" burns are so bad that they will likely be unreadable in a short time.

Look on the bright side. You're fortunate to have this experience right at the outset to avoid finding yourself in the unenviable position of others trusting their data to those Optical Quantums.

Kushna · 08-08-2012

An update with my dealings of this company. I brought it to their attention that this spindle is giving me 100% burns, and someone in the tech support was responding to me.

At first I was asked to confirm drive firmwares, then the person asked for ImgBurn logs. And after that the person asked for a 2x burn log (only works on the LG drive which does not belong to me; I have to borrow it to test). I let this one run as long as I can and 4.5 hours into verification and 1000 Unrecoverable errors later I have to cancel it at 97%.

At this point the person started asking me where I acquired it from. After checking I was informed that they cannot do anything because I did not buy the spindle from their "authorized resellers." I acquired it from a valid local computer store like Newegg, and they deny their liability as if they did not manufacture this spindle.

I have a suspicion even if I had acquired it from the authorized reseller, they would have another way to argue so they don't have to rectify the situation.

At this point it's 8 out 8 100% failed discs from Vinpower Optical Quantum OQBDR06LT-25, though I highly question the quality of ANY media manufactured by this company. YMMV but you've been informed.

**Albert** · 08-08-2012

I'm so sorry it didn't work out its you. Well, now you (and we) know the outcome and if anyone asks, we can report your encounter and make for well-informed consumers.

I hope you can still make the rest of the discs work, if only the first 80% of each one. :/

Kushna · 08-08-2012

Well I somewhat expected that. Been hoping I could prove myself wrong. They managed to exceed my expectations in a sense, especially the part they argue as if they didn't manufacture this crappy media because I didn't buy it from the authorized resellers. At least if they showed some effort I'd be less harsh commenting on the experience. That weak argument just to get rid of me is just outright ignorant. Really hope I can report to BBB or something.

That aside, I'd say 65% and before is the portion that's barely usable, despite the errors in scan. Though I don't know what data I can entrust with this kind of media.

**Albert** · 08-08-2012

If you do backups, you can use this media as a daily driver, the media you can scratch up & beat without ruining the pristine originals.

**deanwitty** · 09-08-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushna

An update with my dealings of this company. I brought it to their attention that this spindle is giving me 100% burns, and someone in the tech support was responding to me.

At first I was asked to confirm drive firmwares, then the person asked for ImgBurn logs. And after that the person asked for a 2x burn log (only works on the LG drive which does not belong to me; I have to borrow it to test). I let this one run as long as I can and 4.5 hours into verification and 1000 Unrecoverable errors later I have to cancel it at 97%.

At this point the person started asking me where I acquired it from. After checking I was informed that they cannot do anything because I did not buy the spindle from their "authorized resellers." I acquired it from a valid local computer store like Newegg, and they deny their liability as if they did not manufacture this spindle.

I have a suspicion even if I had acquired it from the authorized reseller, they would have another way to argue so they don't have to rectify the situation.

At this point it's 8 out 8 100% failed discs from Vinpower Optical Quantum OQBDR06LT-25, though I highly question the quality of ANY media manufactured by this company. YMMV but you've been informed.

I'm very sorry to hear that. I think you would be wise to avoid Optical Quantum media. And if your seller will not take them back, it would probably be best to toss them and not put yourself through the frustration of burning them 50% and finding them unreadable 6 months from now.
It is difficult enough for media manufacturers to stay profitable selling their own media. A company like Vinpower/Optical Quantum, who manufactures duplication equipment and not discs, buys the cheapest media they can find to allow them to price it competitively and still make a profit from it. More often than not, you will do better avoiding the middleman.

B0bert · 15-03-2013

I thought I'd update this thread since I have the same drive and media. The only difference is I'm running the older 1.02 firmware. I was a little concerned when I came across this thread and wasn't getting my hopes up . I picked up this media cheap at .24 cents a disc.

Attached below is the burn on my ASUS BW-12B1ST using LGEBRAS06 media (it is branded as Optical Quantum 6x, same part# as OP). I think this media is not bad at all, perhaps the OP got a bad batch or they have worked out the initial problems with this media by now. Burn was 4x

01-08-2012	#1
Kushna New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11	Asus BW-12B1ST (iHBS112) + LGEBRA-S06? Hi all, I got my first Blu-Ray Writer ASUS BW-12B1ST last week, did some research, and found out it's an iHBS112 rebadge. Also bought a pack of Vinpower Optical Quantum 6x OQBDR06LT-25, which turned out to be LGEBRA-S06-000, which some people have some good results and some bad. Been having issues since Day 1... Tried ImgBurn, bundled Power2Go7, and Nero 10. Basically I was trying to back up some files to around 90% mark, and in all programs it burned fine on 4x. However, all failed eventually at around 60%-70% into verification. Verification is also painfully slow @ 1x-2x max. Also tried crossflashing to iHBS112's PL05 out of desperation, and it still failed like the other attempts. 4 coasters so far out of 4 attempts : ImgBurn (Asus FW) - Disc unreadable afterwards Power2Go7 (Asus FW) - Corrupted files (disc spinning but reading speed drops to 0MB/s) Power2Go7 (PL05) - Corrupted files Nero 10 (PL05) - Corrupted files Right now I'm trying to determine whether it's the drive that may be bad, or just the media that's poor in quality, or maybe this drive/firmware combination doesn't like this particular type of media... Any suggestions?

01-08-2012	#2
vroom Administrator and Reviewer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .gr Posts: 7,492	Hi Kushna and welcome. You can try to burn an rewritable BD discs if you have one, if that fails that it's the drive, or you can also try some better media. __________________ You put me down, For the very last time, I hit the floor, But I got up on the count of nine, Goodbye, don't cry, When I'm gone.

02-08-2012	#7
deanwitty Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The 10th city outside the 2nd City, U.S. Posts: 2,698	Glad to hear you succeeded with some good media. Doesn't sound like a hardware problem. No connection between your LG burner and those made in China S06 BD-R's unfortunately. I would certainly report a 100% failure rate with the media on 2 different burners to the seller . __________________ Currently installed for testing: Lite-on DH20A4P-04(9P54) + Sony Optiarc AD-7200A(1.Z3) x2 "You want WHAT? OK, I can do that". + AD-7200S(1Z2) + AD-5280-CB-PLUS(1.Z7) + BenQ DW1650(BCIC) + BenQ DW1640(BSLB) x2 + Lite-on iHAS324-08 A(BL1H) + Asus DRW-24B1LT@iHAS424(ZLC1) + Asus DRW-24B1ST@iHAS324(BL1H) + Plextor PX-760A(1.03) + LG BD-RE WH10LS30(1.00) + Lite-on iHES208(8LOC) + Sammy SH-BO83L(SB01) + Pioneer BDR206(1.05) + Lite-on iHBS112-29(CLOK) + Pioneer BDR-205(1.12) + LG WH12LS39(1.00) + Lite-on iHBS212@Plextor PX-LB950SA(1.02)

03-08-2012	#10
deanwitty Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The 10th city outside the 2nd City, U.S. Posts: 2,698	Very glad to hear that you chose to make some noise about this . I hope you are able to get the seller to replace them with a different media. Thanks for the heads-up about Optical Quantum packaging LG S06's now. I was afraid we would be seeing this, as it seems that more Chinese manufacturers are pushing them out now. Becoming more common in the Asian markets that I watch, and the samples I've tested have been really low quality. But they are dirt cheap, and apparently irresistible for their profit potential to companies like Vinpower/Optical Quantum. __________________ Currently installed for testing: Lite-on DH20A4P-04(9P54) + Sony Optiarc AD-7200A(1.Z3) x2 "You want WHAT? OK, I can do that". + AD-7200S(1Z2) + AD-5280-CB-PLUS(1.Z7) + BenQ DW1650(BCIC) + BenQ DW1640(BSLB) x2 + Lite-on iHAS324-08 A(BL1H) + Asus DRW-24B1LT@iHAS424(ZLC1) + Asus DRW-24B1ST@iHAS324(BL1H) + Plextor PX-760A(1.03) + LG BD-RE WH10LS30(1.00) + Lite-on iHES208(8LOC) + Sammy SH-BO83L(SB01) + Pioneer BDR206(1.05) + Lite-on iHBS112-29(CLOK) + Pioneer BDR-205(1.12) + LG WH12LS39(1.00) + Lite-on iHBS212@Plextor PX-LB950SA(1.02)

04-08-2012	#13
deanwitty Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The 10th city outside the 2nd City, U.S. Posts: 2,698	Try a screen capture with the floppy disc icon without the ODC window being maximized(click the "restore down" square icon). Save as .png file. If that fails, download FScapture 5.3, use the "capture active window" or "capture rectangle region" button and save as a png file. Again, you do not want to save with the program window maximized. Is there any hub code visible on the S06 discs you have? __________________ Currently installed for testing: Lite-on DH20A4P-04(9P54) + Sony Optiarc AD-7200A(1.Z3) x2 "You want WHAT? OK, I can do that". + AD-7200S(1Z2) + AD-5280-CB-PLUS(1.Z7) + BenQ DW1650(BCIC) + BenQ DW1640(BSLB) x2 + Lite-on iHAS324-08 A(BL1H) + Asus DRW-24B1LT@iHAS424(ZLC1) + Asus DRW-24B1ST@iHAS324(BL1H) + Plextor PX-760A(1.03) + LG BD-RE WH10LS30(1.00) + Lite-on iHES208(8LOC) + Sammy SH-BO83L(SB01) + Pioneer BDR206(1.05) + Lite-on iHBS112-29(CLOK) + Pioneer BDR-205(1.12) + LG WH12LS39(1.00) + Lite-on iHBS212@Plextor PX-LB950SA(1.02)

Today
Mr. Adbot Register to remove me Join Date: Today Location: Myce HQ Posts: Zillions

Today
Adbot Always the best offers Join Date: Today Location: Myce HQ Posts: Zillions

02-08-2012	#5
Albert Senior Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: AL, USA Posts: 5,985	Indeed, it is an LG Electronics disc model. You may try them with an LG, but don't get your hopes too high; the Asus/LiteOn should have equally good support. (If not, it would be a bit of a surprise.) Good luck with your tests, though. Also, you could try to give the Optical Quantum folks a bit of your mind. Maybe they could help rectify the situation, at least a bit. Even if they didn't, you would know you tried.

05-08-2012	#15
deanwitty Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The 10th city outside the 2nd City, U.S. Posts: 2,698	Thanks. This is a wonderful example of just how valuable a scanning drive can be. You just know that there are many others who are buying those Optical Quantums and thinking "hey, I got a few coasters, but they were cheap so that's not too bad". Never realizing that the "successful" burns are so bad that they will likely be unreadable in a short time. Look on the bright side. You're fortunate to have this experience right at the outset to avoid finding yourself in the unenviable position of others trusting their data to those Optical Quantums. __________________ Currently installed for testing: Lite-on DH20A4P-04(9P54) + Sony Optiarc AD-7200A(1.Z3) x2 "You want WHAT? OK, I can do that". + AD-7200S(1Z2) + AD-5280-CB-PLUS(1.Z7) + BenQ DW1650(BCIC) + BenQ DW1640(BSLB) x2 + Lite-on iHAS324-08 A(BL1H) + Asus DRW-24B1LT@iHAS424(ZLC1) + Asus DRW-24B1ST@iHAS324(BL1H) + Plextor PX-760A(1.03) + LG BD-RE WH10LS30(1.00) + Lite-on iHES208(8LOC) + Sammy SH-BO83L(SB01) + Pioneer BDR206(1.05) + Lite-on iHBS112-29(CLOK) + Pioneer BDR-205(1.12) + LG WH12LS39(1.00) + Lite-on iHBS212@Plextor PX-LB950SA(1.02)

08-08-2012	#16
Kushna New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 11	Vinpower (Optical Quantum) = One of the Worst An update with my dealings of this company. I brought it to their attention that this spindle is giving me 100% burns, and someone in the tech support was responding to me. At first I was asked to confirm drive firmwares, then the person asked for ImgBurn logs. And after that the person asked for a 2x burn log (only works on the LG drive which does not belong to me; I have to borrow it to test). I let this one run as long as I can and 4.5 hours into verification and 1000 Unrecoverable errors later I have to cancel it at 97%. At this point the person started asking me where I acquired it from. After checking I was informed that they cannot do anything because I did not buy the spindle from their "authorized resellers." I acquired it from a valid local computer store like Newegg, and they deny their liability as if they did not manufacture this spindle. I have a suspicion even if I had acquired it from the authorized reseller, they would have another way to argue so they don't have to rectify the situation. At this point it's 8 out 8 100% failed discs from Vinpower Optical Quantum OQBDR06LT-25, though I highly question the quality of ANY media manufactured by this company. YMMV but you've been informed.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
iHBS112 Firmware	rulisky	Newbie Forum	7	5 Days Ago 20:15
ASUS BW-12B1ST any thoughts on this burner?	B0bert	CD, DVD and Blu-ray Writers	54	24-02-2013 17:28
ASUS BW-12B1ST rebadge of which model? how that would conditions BD-R burn quality	DoMDoM40	Asus / Pioneer Writer	42	06-03-2012 16:18
Asus BW-12B1ST 12x SATA Blu-ray Burner + 5x 25GB BD $50 at Newegg	Thunderbolt69	Bargain Basement	6	02-01-2012 00:49
Pioneer BDR S06 XLB	tonistein	Newbie Forum	4	30-05-2011 18:08