Wanted: virtual DVD burner

**mciahel** · 29-04-2010

Hi,

I am confronted with the ugly job to create recovery discs from a laptop without an optical drive.

Well, I could simply grab one of my external writers, throw in some quality blanks and go ahead. The problem is: These "Create Recovery Disc" applications don't have any options to control the burn parameters. They will always attempt a maximum speed burn. And such is not good at all with a modern USB connected DVD writer which will try 20x with TY or MCC media and is strangulated by the USB interface.

I could avoid this dilemma if there existed a piece of software that installs itself as DVD writer which then creates (ISO) image files instead of coastering blank disks. These ISO images can then be written to disc under controlled parameters.

Anyone aware of such a software? I forgot to mention, it must support Win7 64-bit.
Free solutions are preferred, commercial software should have at least a fully functional, (time limited) trial.

Thanks in advance,
Michael

*~Jethro~* · 29-04-2010

Tried Imgburn?

**mciahel** · 30-04-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Jethro~

Tried Imgburn?

ImgBurn (and all other burning software) is not what I need here.
The "virtual Burner" I am looking for must be recognised and accessed by other software ("Create Recovery Disc" application) as DVD writer.

What I forgot to mention in my initial post: I am also looking for a Win7-64 compatible virtual CD/DVD ROM software that is at least invasive as possible. Support for copy protection is not required. This should rule out Deamon Tools.

Michael

**Kerry56** · 30-04-2010

Perhaps Virtual CD v10? Here is the download link: http://www.virtualcd-online.com/vcd/...nload.cfm?lg=0

*Bob* · 30-04-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by mciahel

They will always attempt a maximum speed burn.

My experience is they burn at the lowest speed..........

*kg_evilboy* · 30-04-2010

If you have some patience on your hands, an alternative would be using RW media, and then recopying it to R media.
Or if you have some 8x discs left, you might wish to sacrifice those.

**mciahel** · 30-04-2010

Hi all

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerry56

Perhaps Virtual CD v10?

Thanks - this looks promising

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

My experience is they burn at the lowest speed..........

The last I had seen (on a eMachines laptop) seemed to try the fastest. But maybe your experience was from the recovery process of another computer brand. I'll have to do with the Acer recovery "solution".

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg_evilboy

If you have some patience on your hands, an alternative would be using RW media, and then recopying it to R media.

Not a bad idea

I have some 4x +RW Verbies lying around.

Quote:

Or if you have some 8x discs left, you might wish to sacrifice those.

I am not sure if I want to sacrifice my MiS MCC003 for that job

Especially since most modern writers will overspeed them to 12x

which is my personal sanity level for USB connected drives.

Since I don't have the laptop yet, I am still open to more useful suggestions of course

Michael

*DrageMester* · 30-04-2010

In addition to the suggestions already mentioned, if you have a Pioneer DVR-116/216, you could use the Optimal Writing Speed Utility to prevent the burner from burning at too high a speed.

**mciahel** · 30-04-2010

Unfortunately, the only Pioneer I have is a 112L which is installed in an external enclosure.

Michael

**Terramex** · 01-05-2010

A less bloated alternative for Virtual CD 10 would be Phantom Drive.

**mciahel** · 02-05-2010

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terramex

A less bloated alternative for Virtual CD 10 would be Phantom Drive.

Interesting, especially since it is from the same company as VirtualCD

Thanks,
Michael

*Bob* · 02-05-2010

Just use low speed media or MCSE and a strat swap. Not sure what the big deal is......

*cholla* · 02-05-2010

I don't know of any software that does what you want .
I have VirtualCloneDrive by ElaborateBytes/Slysoft but it works like other virtual drives.
What you are looking for is a " writable virtual DVD disc " that can be mounted in a virtual drive & written to as an .iso.
That way the speed wouldn't matter because it would really be to a hard drive.
If anyone knows how to do that I would be interested in learning too.

*DrageMester* · 02-05-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholla

I don't know of any software that does what you want .
[...]
If anyone knows how to do that I would be interested in learning too.

Read posts #4 and #10.

*cholla* · 02-05-2010

My bad I should have checked the links in posts #4 and #10.
I thought they were just virtual drives like VirtualCloneDrive.
I would of course prefer freeware .
I couldn't find a price for Virtual CD v10 for a single computer home (private use).
The only prices were for Business & Education users.

**Terramex** · 02-05-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholla

I would of course prefer freeware .

The only one i know is KernSafe Total Mounter.
Limited capabilities ...and IMO pretty buggy

**mciahel** · 02-05-2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholla

I thought they were just virtual drives like VirtualCloneDrive

I need something totally different

Quote:

I would of course prefer freeware .

Me too. But for my purpose, a time limited, fully working trial should be good enough

Quote:

I couldn't find a price for Virtual CD v10 for a single computer home (private use).

http://www.virtualcd-online.com/vcd/...ll&curr=dollar
34,95 USD for the full version (single user)
Phantom Drive, which I expect to have the same core software is cheaper: 19,95 USD, http://www.phantom-drive.com/onlineshop/shop.cfm?lg=0

Michael

**vroom** · 02-05-2010

What kind of backup do you want to do?
OS or just some file backup?
Usually most laptops have a backup software, wasn't that good for backup?

**mciahel** · 02-05-2010

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by vroom

What kind of backup do you want to do?
OS or just some file backup?
Usually most laptops have a backup software, wasn't that good for backup?

as already stated in my initial post, I intend to create a set of recovery discs using the "Create Recovery Disc" application provided by the computer manufacturer.
In that very post, I also described the problems I expect if I simply connect one of my external burners and feed it with quality blank media

Michael

*cholla* · 03-05-2010

Let us know if you try one of the above & how well it works or doesn't work.

**mciahel** · 03-05-2010

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by cholla

Let us know if you try one of the above & how well it works or doesn't work.

will do. Picked up the new laptop today

Seems I go the DVD+RW route for the initial set. (I was so sure I'd have a couple of 8x Sony DVD+R, but I can't find them

). If the recovery software allows creating another set of discs, I will try Phantom Drive.

Edit: Acer's "Create Recovery Disc" tool allows creation of more than one set of recovery discs. "Phantom Drive" does a nice job here; it takes about 4 minutes for creating the disc image plus verification.

Highly recommended.

Michael

SpawnHappyJake · 06-01-2011

Kk y'all, I tried KernSafe TotalMounter in Windows XP Media Center Edition (basically Professional Edition) Service Pack 3. It's a no-go. Sorry. I was super-stoked about it. I chose the RW drive under mount, it asked me where to save the resultant iso, after I hit "save" and it instantly made the iso (didn't wait for me to burn to it). iTunes didn't say I inserted a blank disc, nor did any autorun/ autoplay nor anything like that. That was my first sign of a fail. I navigate to "My Computer" and click on my new CD drive (checked with Disk Manager first to see which letter it was). I got a pop-up saying that Windows couldn't open the drive, it might be corrupted, blah blah blah. I opened iTunes, and it saw no blank disc. I brought up an iso-burning program, and it didn't even see the drive as an option to burn to. Shoot.

*Mr. Belvedere* · 06-01-2011

http://www.ztekware.com/

http://www.noteburner.com/

**mciahel** · 06-01-2011

1. The first one does not qualify since a virtual DVD writer for Win7 64bit has been searched for.
2. The second doesn't quality either, plus it's the typical spamvertised crap
3. The initial question has been answered months ago.

Michael

*Mr. Belvedere* · 06-01-2011

/me is sorry.

29-04-2010	#2
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29-04-2010	#1
mciahel Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 17,048	Wanted: virtual DVD burner Hi, I am confronted with the ugly job to create recovery discs from a laptop without an optical drive. Well, I could simply grab one of my external writers, throw in some quality blanks and go ahead. The problem is: These "Create Recovery Disc" applications don't have any options to control the burn parameters. They will always attempt a maximum speed burn. And such is not good at all with a modern USB connected DVD writer which will try 20x with TY or MCC media and is strangulated by the USB interface. I could avoid this dilemma if there existed a piece of software that installs itself as DVD writer which then creates (ISO) image files instead of coastering blank disks. These ISO images can then be written to disc under controlled parameters. Anyone aware of such a software? I forgot to mention, it must support Win7 64-bit. Free solutions are preferred, commercial software should have at least a fully functional, (time limited) trial. Thanks in advance, Michael __________________ Mini-FAQ for Samsung DVD writers * HOWTO Flash Firmware of a Samsung (TSST) DVD writer How to attach disc quality scans

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30-04-2010	#4
Kerry56 Administrator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: West Texas Posts: 14,410	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner Perhaps Virtual CD v10? Here is the download link: http://www.virtualcd-online.com/vcd/...nload.cfm?lg=0 __________________ Basic Guide for BD Rebuilder BD Rebuilder Guide for MP4 or MKV conversion AVStoDVD Guide

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Terramex Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 814	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner A less bloated alternative for Virtual CD 10 would be Phantom Drive. __________________ BenQ EW164B & DW1640, LG GSA-5163D, GH20NS & LS15, Optiarc AD-7243S, 5280S-CB-PLUS, Plextor PX-755SA, PX-B940SA@Pioneer BDR-205, Liteon iHBS112-37

02-05-2010	#13
cholla MyCE Resident Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Amarillo ,Texas Posts: 5,349	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner I don't know of any software that does what you want . I have VirtualCloneDrive by ElaborateBytes/Slysoft but it works like other virtual drives. What you are looking for is a " writable virtual DVD disc " that can be mounted in a virtual drive & written to as an .iso. That way the speed wouldn't matter because it would really be to a hard drive. If anyone knows how to do that I would be interested in learning too.

02-05-2010	#15
cholla MyCE Resident Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Amarillo ,Texas Posts: 5,349	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner My bad I should have checked the links in posts #4 and #10. I thought they were just virtual drives like VirtualCloneDrive. I would of course prefer freeware . I couldn't find a price for Virtual CD v10 for a single computer home (private use). The only prices were for Business & Education users.

02-05-2010	#18
vroom Administrator and Reviewer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .gr Posts: 7,482	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner What kind of backup do you want to do? OS or just some file backup? Usually most laptops have a backup software, wasn't that good for backup? __________________ You put me down, For the very last time, I hit the floor, But I got up on the count of nine, Goodbye, don't cry, When I'm gone.

03-05-2010	#20
cholla MyCE Resident Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Amarillo ,Texas Posts: 5,349	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner Let us know if you try one of the above & how well it works or doesn't work.

06-01-2011	#22
SpawnHappyJake New Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 6	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner Kk y'all, I tried KernSafe TotalMounter in Windows XP Media Center Edition (basically Professional Edition) Service Pack 3. It's a no-go. Sorry. I was super-stoked about it. I chose the RW drive under mount, it asked me where to save the resultant iso, after I hit "save" and it instantly made the iso (didn't wait for me to burn to it). iTunes didn't say I inserted a blank disc, nor did any autorun/ autoplay nor anything like that. That was my first sign of a fail. I navigate to "My Computer" and click on my new CD drive (checked with Disk Manager first to see which letter it was). I got a pop-up saying that Windows couldn't open the drive, it might be corrupted, blah blah blah. I opened iTunes, and it saw no blank disc. I brought up an iso-burning program, and it didn't even see the drive as an option to burn to. Shoot.

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06-01-2011	#24
mciahel Senior Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 17,048	Re: Wanted: virtual DVD burner 1. The first one does not qualify since a virtual DVD writer for Win7 64bit has been searched for. 2. The second doesn't quality either, plus it's the typical spamvertised crap 3. The initial question has been answered months ago. Michael __________________ Mini-FAQ for Samsung DVD writers * HOWTO Flash Firmware of a Samsung (TSST) DVD writer How to attach disc quality scans

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