Ritek 8.5GB 2.4X DVD+R DL

*maineman* · 07-12-2005

This is a great deal...about $1.80 ea., free shipping also. Have used these for approx 30 burns, flawless Bkups. Same for 5 of my friends:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817132394

**Jesterrace** · 07-12-2005

Well, that's great for you and your friend. However, most of us here won't touch those with a 10 foot pole. Search around a bit and you will find some very mixed reviews on these discs. Not such a great deal when Verbatims are starting to go on sale for $2 or less per disc.

Xecuter2 · 07-12-2005

I'd rather pay an additional $.20 for Verbatims....

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**Jesterrace** · 07-12-2005

That is the general consensus.

*ghetocowboy* · 07-12-2005

I got 5 of these for free with NEC 3550 purchase on newegg a week ago, I dont know what to do with them. They are prolly ended up on Ebay because I personally would not use Ritek DL discs, individually cased too.

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*ripit* · 07-12-2005

I got two 25 packs for 25$ each (if I recall the price right) at compusa and after trying a few, the burns were so bad on 3 diffrent burners, they were not worth it even at 1$ a disk. Luckilly they let me return both packs even though one was opened. Verbatums work much beter.

*maineman* · 07-12-2005

I've seen some mixed reviews re: Ritek, but heck, some folks complain about verbatim or TY's and like I said, the riteks worked really well for me and others I know.

Anyway, I agree about verbatim...they're the best, no argument. Right now, I'm seeing $3 for verbatim and $1.80 for Ritek. Do you mind sharing where you pick up verbatims for only $.20 more?..I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

*reasonsnotrules* · 07-12-2005

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Originally Posted by maineman

I've seen some mixed reviews re: Ritek, but heck, some folks complain about verbatim or TY's and like I said, the riteks worked really well for me and others I know.

Anyway, I agree about verbatim...they're the best, no argument. Right now, I'm seeing $3 for verbatim and $1.80 for Ritek. Do you mind sharing where you pick up verbatims for only $.20 more?..I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

they've been on sale almost every week at either office max, compusa, best buy for $19.99 for a 10 pack. for that little of a price difference, it's verbs for me!

ra@scientist · 07-12-2005

I would do a test burn on one disk if I had one (just to see how it would do in my burner) but I wouldn't take the chance and wasting a lot of money on buying a whole spindle.

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**Jesterrace** · 07-12-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by reasonsnotrules

they've been on sale almost every week at either office max, compusa, best buy for $19.99 for a 10 pack. for that little of a price difference, it's verbs for me!

Yup, just keep an eye out at any one of those locations and you can find them about every other week or so (stock up when they are on sale). @the original post while it is true that you can find complaints about every media out there, I think you will find that the number of complaints or overall consensus on Verbatim and TY media is NO WHERE NEAR what the number of complaints are for Ritek D/L.

dtog · 07-12-2005

I wonder if when the 8X Ritek DVD+R DL's come out, if they will be bad still? I remember Ritek being THE DVD-R to get back in the "old days". hehe (1X and 4X days).

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*maineman* · 07-12-2005

Appreciate the feedback...thanks everyone!

*ripit* · 07-12-2005

I happen to be one of those rare fews that have had bad experiences with ty. I have used two diffrent packs (fuji and tdk) that were ty and considering they were bought months, maybe even a year apart, at diffrent stores, and diffrent brands, I don't think it was just an issue of a bad pack. I think my burner/firmware combinations do not like that particular ty media code. I don't use ty media for that reason though. I still understand that ty is good quality media and the odds are high that it will work well for you. there is still a small chance it will not. The ritek dual layer is just the opposite. It is possible that it is actually good media and just has terible firmware support (though based on all recent ritek media, I think it is at least part a quality issue). Your chances are low that it will work well. It doesn't work well for most. Still, you may be in that minority (like I am with ty), and ritek dual layer will work just fine with your burner.
My advice when trying any new media (since even the good ones give a few people problems), buy in small quantities at first, preferably at a store that will allow return of opened media, and local so no issues with return shipping. Try it, test it, if it burns good, scans good, plays fine, then that media is a good one for you. I was warned about the quality of ritek dual layer but I bought some anyway (couldn't resist the 1$ per disk price). I burned it, tested it, played it, it burned crappy (and failed to burn twice), tested bad, didn't play right, so I returned it. If it had burned, scanned, and played good, I probably would have kept it even though it has a bad rep.
In short, ritek dual layer has a low chance of working well but it might if you want to try it. Verbatum dual layer has a high chance of working well (though it may not) if you want to try it. Decide for yourself.

Fyi microcenter has been running verbatum for 20$ per 10 too, and the price is good online when they do. Shipping kind of kills the price if you are not near a microcenter, but for those in rural areas where there are no major stores (or not the ones running it on sale), it still might be worth it.

*maineman* · 07-12-2005

ripit,

Thanks for the reply, I appreciate your logic and I think that your reasoning is entirely accurate. Initially, while I wouldn't have placed ritek in the same class as verbatim or TY, I would have put it just below them in terms of quality and compatibility. This, based on my own little pool of six DL "burners", and whatever else I've picked up over the last 1 1/2 years. This coupled with the fact that they play well in a variety of players...again with no playback issues, led me to this.

Your explanation of the quality and firmware issues makes perfect sense. It's great to hear from experienced folks who are willing to take the time to help out. Again, thanks to all.

GristyMcFisty · 16-12-2005

The reason Ritek DL gets a bad rap is that folks are burning the discs with the wrong software, for example Nero 6.6.x.x can't do Dual Layer writing properly (I can't comment about 7 since I refuse to potentially waste a disc). The vast majority of PC DVD recording software DOES NOT correctly burn Dual Layer DVDs for use in DVD players. The burnt discs will however work fine in PCs. The reason for the failure to correctly write the discs is all in the creation of the Layer Break, if this isn't done correctly the disc will not work correctly.

Personally I've used both Verbatim DLs and Ritek DLs in my NEC drives which range from a 3500 to 4550, ALL discs have worked perfectly, and ALL were burnt with RecordNOW! There are other software combinations that work as well, but this was the one I found most reliable.

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quantum · 18-12-2005

Wow. The bad information you find on the net is amazing. I've used Nero 6.6x, Decrypter and RecordNow and burned about 100 dual layers in the last year on both NEC and BenQ drives. All 3 programs work fine with dual layer. I've burned Riteks (D01's and RicohJPN's) and Verbatims.

The fact is, Ritek D01's have the highest failure rate and poorest scans. That's why they have a "bad rap". Sometimes they work, sometimes they dont, regardless of software. Verbatims are the best. RicohJPN is in the middle.

Even if your disk "works perfectly" in your player doesn't mean it will in your neighbors or with the player you buy next year. That's where Verbatim's show their strength.

*reasonsnotrules* · 18-12-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by GristyMcFisty

The reason Ritek DL gets a bad rap is that folks are burning the discs with the wrong software, for example Nero 6.6.x.x can't do Dual Layer writing properly (I can't comment about 7 since I refuse to potentially waste a disc). The vast majority of PC DVD recording software DOES NOT correctly burn Dual Layer DVDs for use in DVD players. The burnt discs will however work fine in PCs. The reason for the failure to correctly write the discs is all in the creation of the Layer Break, if this isn't done correctly the disc will not work correctly.

Personally I've used both Verbatim DLs and Ritek DLs in my NEC drives which range from a 3500 to 4550, ALL discs have worked perfectly, and ALL were burnt with RecordNOW! There are other software combinations that work as well, but this was the one I found most reliable.

i'd need to see some scans of your riteks before I'd believe this. if you have any, feel free to post them and prove us wrong!

*franz99* · 21-01-2006

Did anybody notice a lot of difference in quality
among this "RITEK-D01-001" media code

between:
- RIDATA branded ones
- TRAXDATA branded ones
- or any other brands: Platinum, Intenso, ....

I am looking among the new DL burners:
Pioneer 110, Nec 4550, BenQ 1655 and Plextor PX-755
for a burner whuch for sure will burn these RIDATA DL correctly
especially around the layer break

**Jesterrace** · 21-01-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by GristyMcFisty

The reason Ritek DL gets a bad rap is that folks are burning the discs with the wrong software, for example Nero 6.6.x.x can't do Dual Layer writing properly (I can't comment about 7 since I refuse to potentially waste a disc). The vast majority of PC DVD recording software DOES NOT correctly burn Dual Layer DVDs for use in DVD players. The burnt discs will however work fine in PCs. The reason for the failure to correctly write the discs is all in the creation of the Layer Break, if this isn't done correctly the disc will not work correctly.

Personally I've used both Verbatim DLs and Ritek DLs in my NEC drives which range from a 3500 to 4550, ALL discs have worked perfectly, and ALL were burnt with RecordNOW! There are other software combinations that work as well, but this was the one I found most reliable.

Wrong, the reason why Ritek D/L gets a bad wrap is because the poor firmware support that is available for most drives. I suggest people take a look at the following threads:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....2&page=2&pp=25

*bigmacnc* · 23-01-2006

I got 99.99% read on Ritek R01 that burned "Wedding Crashers" using DVDFab Gold in the DL. I used VSO Inspector to test. Also played back on 2 stand alones without any problems on both theater and uncorked.

Mack

Ritek 8.5GB 2.4X DVD+R DL

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