Maxell +R and -R (MIJ) 50-pack spindles for $12.99 at Sears
| Bargain Basement Discuss, Maxell +R and -R (MIJ) 50-pack spindles for $12.99 at Sears at Community forum; I thought this might be of interest to a few of you as I stumbled onto some older 8x DVD-R Maxell media at a local Sears store that is on sale for $13 per 50-pack. The side of the package states "Fabriqué au Japon" and the MID is MXL RG03 |
| I thought this might be of interest to a few of you as I stumbled onto some older 8x DVD-R Maxell media at a local Sears store that is on sale for $13 per 50-pack. The side of the package states "Fabriqué au Japon" and the MID is MXL RG03 Hitachi Maxell LTD. The DVD+R was Made in Taiwan. I bought a 50-pack of the -R based on some rave reviews in a couple of threads while searching these forums. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....light=mxl+rg03 http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....light=mxl+rg03 Odd thing about these media is that out of three different burners only one burner (Lite-On 160P6S) would burn them at 8x and 12x. The other two burners (BenQ 1650 w/BCIC & NEC 3550A w/Dee's firmware) only wanted to burn them at 2.4x. If anyone has any suggestions as to what's up with this please let me know (TIA). Attached are two scans which were burned at 8x and 6x respectively. EDIT: The sale began Sunday Jan 7th so it will probably end Saturday evening.
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| WOW ! This is pretty bloody disappointing for Maxell made in Japan media, even if the scan is well within spec, look at the PIF totals this is Maxell's signature  I have VALUE LINE TY that has PIF totals of 300-400 for a full disc, PIF max 2, but 1 most of the time and PI maximums of 10 and totals less 10,000 In fact my Maxell RITEKR03 burn a lot better. I wouldn't worry much about the PIF totals, but in principle, I would expect Maxell to have better scans - ALSO I would steer clear from maxell media - I have 3 batches of both +R and -R made in Japan Maxells, and after a year the PIF totals have TRIPLED and the maximums gone from max 2 to max 6 evenly spread, and those discs were kept under strict conditions - both temperature and humidity is computer controlled and monitored - All of my RITEKR03 and Taiyo Yudens are fine. |
| I didn't find any MIJ Maxell media at my local Sears, only MIT. A couple months ago I did find MIJ at Jewel/Osco and bought a 25 pack for $20. I was very disappointed with the results (similar to yours) using BenQ 1640/50/55/25, PIONEER 108 and NEC 3540. I'll try to find some scans. Like you, I expected better results because I had read very good comments here but, oh well, live and learn. My DVD players don't have any problems playing those Maxells, but I expected better PIF and PIE figures. |
| Maxell's consumer MIJ media is like that, high PIF totals. Not really that big of a deal. |
| Maxell's always seemed to have higher PIF counts (the ones I have burned in the past) but keep in mind they are very reliable discs, I have many that of those +- that are still going strong for years and still play without a hitch in all my DVD standalone players. |
| Yo- Stick with Taiyo Yuden 8x +R T02's -eh!
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| Unless the Maxell is made in Japan you should stay away from it. |
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The only 16x media I see great scans with are Verbatim MCC004 +r. Both the Verbatim and the Staples disks were MIT. |
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 My TYG03 and OPTODISCR16 scans are consistently excellent 
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 I think there had a sticker with MIJ 
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| I was in a Sears store the other day and the Maxell sale for $13 a 50-pack is still going on if anyone is interested. I saw plenty of 8x -R MIJ spindles which should be MXL RG03 made by Maxell/Hitachi. Of course YMMV. This time I was at the Greenwood store on the south side of Indianapolis. I was there to clean them out of Sony 8x +R MIJ TY02 via the BB price match. Frankly, I'm not impressed with the scans of the MXL RG03 media. The scans in the OP were burned and scanned with a LO160P6S. I burned a few in a BQ1650 but they were worse. Had to use overspeed as the BQ only recognized them as 2.4x media. Firmware support for this media must be iffy. I'm sure it's decent media, especially with the right burner, but for $13 a 50-pack better can be had. At least this is true in the States. I went back and reread the links in the first post and some of the posters discussing this media were from Australia or England.
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| @Doctor Morbius These are scans of the MIJ Maxell X8 I found at Osco/Jewel. I think they are similar to yours. http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...6&postcount=11 |
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I think many of the Maxell Spindles MIJ are 16x RICOHJPN now in the UK. |
| RICOHJPN media is not made in Japan, but made in Taiwan by Ritek. |
| ^ The 50 Spinle maxells sold at Costco say MIJ on the packet, with RICOHJPN inside. |
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 That's definitely grounds for returning them.
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| If to buy pack of 50 DVD +/-R for $12.99 I rather to buy Verbatim, Fuji, Sony than Maxell. |
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 But Sony could be Sony's own MID and Fuji would be RITEK 
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| Ricoh has a factory in Japan don't they? I know a lot of the Ricoh MIDs are from Ritek, but I thought they still produced some media in Japan (which is not available in the US). Certainly that used to be the case, but perhaps my information is outdated? |
| A long time ago, Ricoh made some CD-R media in Japan, and apparently they make some DVD+RDL there now, but all of the single-layer DVD+R media and +RW media is made by Ritek (supposedly) to Ricoh's specifications. I think Ricoh should look for another ODM partner myself... |
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 The DVD-R are all CMC-made CMC.  I think CMC is a better ODM than MBI could ever be. Most users on some German forums dislike MBI-made Ricoh media and prefer the Ritek-made stuff. While MBI's own media can be excellent, it's something different with MCC 02RG20
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| Sigh. So now the Maxell 50-packs will be on sale this upcoming week for only $9.98 at Staples. A price match at Sears will bring them down to about $9 per pack. Even though the scans aren't too hot and the bonding problems are legendary, I'll have to get a pack for testing. I wish this media lived up to it's reputation.  |
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