SmartBurn v3.1.16t (Test Version)

GIASAN, my bad. I put it in that post by mistake. Thanks for pointing that out.

Thank you for your work.

I use firmware LS0W with my 16H5S. It's not possible to change HT, Overspeed writing and Online hyper tuning at this moment. This firmware doen't alove it. Is there any new official firmware released? I'll check the site.

Very annoying issue. Drive falls back to 6x very easyly. As soon as small disturbance happens in the buffer.

I just checked the Liteon site. There isn't any new official firmware. Last one is LS0W.

Not always is needed quality. Sometimes we need speed no matters what quality is. I chose by my self when I need quality and when I need speed. I don't want drive to decide strategy instead of me. OK! All this features for quality are good. But not always. And also there should be possibility to turn them all off if owner don't need them.

16H5S LV4C Test Firmware with HyperTuning, OverSpeed support and DVD-R lead-in fix

I don't have any issue whit LV4C firm, this is a scan of a verbatim +R bur at 16x, i think is your sistem:

Aleksander69, I really don't understand your point of view?!

I can understand that you may want a fast burn that has a poor quality scan, but where the DVD is still readable. I wouldn't make this choice myself, but I can understand that you might want this option.

What I simply don't understand is why you would want to create an unreadable disc as fast as possible?

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If all you want is to create an unreadable disc as fast as possible, why don't you just take a blank disc and scratch the data surface with sandpaper. Then you'll also have an unreadable disc, and in the fraction of the time it takes to accomplish the same thing with a 16x DVD burner!
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Are you sure we're talking about the same thing when we use the word "quality" here? Because it seems to me that either you are not understanding what we mean, or we don't understand what you mean, or both.

Tell me then. Why should drive then drop the speed during the burning to 6x even if it was set to 8x or 16x. I see no reason for that and the system shouldn't have anything to do with it. OK! We don't talk about an unreadable disks. We all agree about that. But the point is. If you use good media, not the crappy one, it's almost impossible for the disk to be unreadable (I say almost). Even if you burn it with 16x speed. Still, what I want to say. I'd like to have a posibility to turn off all those features and burn disk my way. Let there be secure way for the people who want best quality. And let there be custom options for the people like me. This is the right way. Not to force people with one way of thinking. This thinking is not always right, better, it's not right for all. Different people have different needs.

This is a common issue with the latest test firmware where the speed is dropping to 6x, I'm pretty sure they are working to fix this issue.

Which firmware are you talking about? I'm having this issue since last two official firmwares. Actually since the drive was new. Not only at the last one (test one).

ROTFL!

Sorry Aleksander69 but this was very good...

I don't know why you people are affraid of burning with 16x speed. You all say that disc will be unreadable if you are burning with more then 12x speed. This is not true. I made a burn which I posted in one thread. It was a 16x burn with a 16x reading benchmark.

Link to a thread. It's post #41

It's not a perfect burn but far away from unreadable. Actually is very readable. And this kind of burn is acceptable for anybody's expectations. Instead of telling people to burn with lower speed you should rather convience them not to buy crap media. And explain them using low quality media leeds to a low quality burn and potentially to unreadable disk. Sorry Dragemaster. I think for you is better to stick with 8x burners. Some of us would like to burn with 16x and have more then just a readable disc. And don't tell me it's not possible. It's very much possible. My scan proves it.

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nearly one million PIE total is not what we expect here. otherwise it wouldn't be called CDFreaks. also the pie exceed the max limit of 280.
just disable all options with smartburn and be happy.

We're not afraid of burning at 16x, and we're not saying that a disc will be unreadable if you burn with more than 12x speed!

What we're saying is that if the burning drive's OPC(*) decides that the burning quality at current speed is getting too bad, and the drive then decides to drop the burning speed to a lower speed, then that is much better than having the drive continue burning at the same speed and getting a coaster as a result!

(*) SmartBurn, Online-HyperTuning, WOPC, Runninc OPC, Active OPC, PoweRec or whatever it's called in various drives.

I get plenty of excellent 16x burns with several DVD burners, thank you very much!

But I'd still prefer for the drive to reduce burning speed automaticaly when it detects a potential problem, than to have the drive create a coaster at full speed.

I've pretty much kept out of this thread, preferring to play quietly with my drives

I had to drop in and say "hear, hear" - I agree 100% with the quoted post.

I too get some excellent 16x burns with one burner in particular, but as above, I'd prefer the write speed to drop rather than get a coaster.

Back on topic...I'm loving the new SmartBurn

The difference in burn time between 12x and 16x is not significant. If there's a signficant difference in burn quality between the two, it's a no brainer to most of us to burn at 12x, except you apparently.

Or for that matter 12x and 8x. The time difference between a 8x burn and a 16x burn is like 2:30. Big deal. I would have reliability over anything else, speed is an after thought. If this wasn't the case, why bother coming to this forum, just close your eyes and burn everything at 16x using standard firmware.

Hey guys, don't understand me wrong. I agree with all of you about the quality. What I'm trying to say is that all test should be made at 16x burning speed and benchmarks with 16x speed. Not with 12x or 8x or even less. This is what I'd like to say. Let's meassure quality of a burn at highest possible speed and rate disks and drives at this speed. When the user put a disc in a drive the drive will read it with highest avaliable reading speed which is in most cases 16x (or 12x). If burn quality is lower then the drive will reduce speed for correctly reading disc.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to say now. Just about tests you or other people are doing and about the quality rate.

I disagree burning disks with low speeds and reading them with 8x and then saying disc is good quality. Let's meassure same disc at 16x reding speed.

My scan proves something. Lower reading speed ensures better quality. We all know that. The burn was good but not very good or best. But it's readable in every drive. As we can see reading scan was much better at 4x speed then at 16x speed. I don't know how you would rate this scan but by my opinion it is very bad. Because of to many eroors at 16x reading speed. Somebody would say it's OK because 4x reding scan proves it. But not for me. Let's focus to the results of a 16x benchmark. Not 8x or 12x.

This is my point of view.

I have the pv8p firmware now, was trying on the pv8d firmware. Still no luck, Anyone have any other ideas??
Dunno if it will help but:
ive got it plugged into an asus a7n8x delux secondary channel, master drive with cable select jumper settings.
xflash shows it as 2-1-0-0 g"lite-on dvdrw shw-160p6s pv8p

If you are checking the disc in a home player for compatibility (assuming a movie), name one home player that will play the disc back at 16x. I certainly don't know any, and doubt any computer drive will play at 16x either. By your method, why even scan the discs? Just use the highest FF or RW speed on a home player, and see it there are pauses/breaks. If there are, the disc is bad.

my matters are fixed as I posted in another thread, smartburn works fine now. Looks like there were stray aspi files from mixed versions that didnt install/uninstall with the adaptec utilities i had to kill manually. Right on the money guys, im all set now :-)

Great glad to hear you got it.

not work at MV8Q..