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LiteOn / PLDS / Sony Writer Discuss, LiteOn firmware backup and flashing tool at CD and DVD Writers forum; CDFreaks is pleased to be able to offer this nice little tool for backing up and flashing binary firmware files in your LiteOn drives. We'll call it LtnFW. This tool is able to backup, perform checksum and compare and also flash binary firmware files to any LiteOn drive. It has

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rdgrimes (Retired Moderator)
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Posted: 01-01-2004
CDFreaks is pleased to be able to offer this nice little tool for backing up and flashing binary firmware files in your LiteOn drives.

We'll call it LtnFW. This tool is able to backup, perform checksum and compare and also flash binary firmware files to any LiteOn drive.

It has the convenience of not mandating a reboot when you update firmware. It's important to note that there are occasional advantages to using the official LiteOn firmware flashers, as they often perform other tasks in addition to updating firmware versions. CDFreaks generally recommends using the official flasher for updating to a newer firmware version. But for back-wards flashing and general messing around, this is a great tool.

So lets have a look at it:

file download:
LtnFW, the firmware flashing & backup tool

The file is a self-contained executable that you can place anywhere.



As you can see, this is a very simple and straightforward tool.
At the top is a drop-down box listing all your drives.

Before you do anything in this program, make absolutely sure that you have selected the correct drive!

In the center is a browsing box where you can go find the binary file that you wish to flash, or you can select the location and name for the backup file that you are creating or checking. If you are backing up, be sure to create a name for the file that does not conflict with any currently existing files. LtnFW will over-write files without warning.
Below that is the command selection area, here you choose what you wish to do with the files you have selected. At the right is the start button to initiate the process.

Never interrupt the program once it has started an operation! You will not be pleased with the results if you do.

The most important thing you will do with this program is back up your current firmware. You should always do this before performing any other operations. Doing so will accomplish several things. First, it will confirm that you have selected the correct drive! Second, it will give you a "good" firmware to use if anything goes wrong. You can use that backup file with MTKFlash to recover a bad flash and/or a dead drive.

Use this tool at your own risk. CDFreaks is not responsible for anything bad that may happen to your drive as a result of firmware flashing.

For a database of binary firmware files and other flashing tools, you can visit dhc014's web site .
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pinto2 (DVD Freak)
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Posted: 01-01-2004
Thank you rdgrimes.
A easy user guide for our "new" members would be nice.
BTW, personaly I will stick with the old "all-in-one" tool.
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klob77 (New on Forum)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
Could someone use this tool on their 486S or 526S CDROM drive with YS0N firmware and backup their firmware & please send it to me. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Rob
rlkolb77@aol.com
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rdgrimes (Retired Moderator)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
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Originally posted by klob77
Could someone use this tool on their 486S or 526S CDROM drive with YS0N firmware and backup their firmware & please send it to me. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Rob
rlkolb77@aol.com
As mentioned above, you can get all the firmware you want HERE
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Ssseth (Retired Senior Moderator)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
The f/w he neds isn't on that page

Although from another topic he found it somewhere.
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aaronwt (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
I don't see the bin file for the 811S version HS0E. Where can i find that?
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ViperInc (CD Freaks Junior Member)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
i get all my firmware here

http://www.firmware-flash.com/

great site. has everything
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Pumbaa (New on Forum)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
LiteOn LTW-411, LiteOn HD-166S, XP Home, Celeron 2.0, 40 Gb + 80 Gb, 512 Mb DDR

Crashed computer in first time run (aspi related issue).
Rebooted, and it ran OK. Made backup of 411's Bios firmware.
Frozed during the flash procedure (downgrade from FS0G to FS0F) and the 411 litterally died (no lights, could not open the tray and the MoBo bios hunged when trying to detect the drive).
Resurection came at last whith the help of mtkflah.

Almost had an heart attack.
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Ssseth (Retired Senior Moderator)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
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Originally posted by ViperInc
i get all my firmware here

http://www.firmware-flash.com/

great site. has everything
I find all sites to be extremly lacking in good ol .bin files.
Not a very good selection of .bin's out there at all.

And let's face it, mtkflash may be a little older and not as pretty but it's a proven tool that can recover most drives. Just sucks trying to find .bin's for it sometimes!
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Odia The Ultima (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
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Originally posted by Ssseth
Just sucks trying to find .bin's for it sometimes!
Why not just extract them yourself from the liteon win flash, its very easy to do.

Quick example, open a bin file for your drive and take note of the first line, then open the liteon win flash, search in the file for the first line from the bin file, take note of the offset and add 0xffff0h.

Odia.
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Ssseth (Retired Senior Moderator)
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That is by far the best explanation of how to extract a .bin from a .exe that I have heard. Other people have made mention of it but not in any clear form that made sense. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I ever have any problems.

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But it still doesn't help out most people that need to use mtkflash...
Why do most people come here asking how to use mtkflash and/or asking for .bin's?
Well usually because they've somehow managed to kill/mess with their drive so that it doesn't work (of course there are other times it's used such as flashing back to an old f/w, but I'm taking about most times here). At that point it is to late for them to backup there f/w to a bin. Without a .bin to compare with they cannot hope to try and extract a .bin from a .exe, if they had made a proper backup of thier f/w (as they should have) they wouldn't be here asking for a .bin would they?

Also, as you mentioned, if they had .bin to compare with they would just use that .bin to flash the drive!

Therein lies the predicament faced by lots of posters with dead drives and no .bin file to recover them.
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pinto2 (DVD Freak)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
XXXX.exe-->xxxx.bin.?!?
Why not use "Litefirm". For me it looks safer than methods proposed here.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=56285
http://upload.cdfreaks.com/BadReligionPR/litefirm.exe
homesite: http://sweb.cz/zdenek.jindra/litefirm.html

BTW, most FW can be found here:
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/english/index-english.htm
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Ssseth (Retired Senior Moderator)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
It would be nice if there was just one sticky called something like "LiteOn tools" with all of them in it.

kprobe
bitsetting tool
region free utility
litefirm
flashfix
mtkflash

and any others that I am unware of or missed.
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thibouille (CD Freaks Senior Member)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
Yes I second that.. maybe including different versions *if* useful (like mtkflash often useful to try different versions).
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Ssseth (Retired Senior Moderator)
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If the mods don't have the time I could compile it from the various posts on each item. Open to editing by mods of course.

I know there are sort of sticky's already but something just called "LiteOn Tools" with every single one would probably get allot more attention from new posters then the current sticky's.
It just seems the tools are sorta scattered all over the place right now. I'm sure that a sticky with all of them in one post would cut down on 1/3 of the unnecessary posts being made here...
The thread should be locked too. I find that sticky's where replies are allowed often don't get as much attention as ones with zero.

One last note, the very nice tool FlashFix had already slipped to page 2 so I bumped it. Gawd knows new people on the forum are probably not going to be reading page 2
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aaronwt (CD Freaks Member)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
Quote:
Originally posted by ViperInc
i get all my firmware here

http://www.firmware-flash.com/

great site. has everything
I don't see the bin file for the 811S version HS0E at this site either. liteOn better update their firmware soon. I still don't see why they don't let you flash to an older version. that would make things much easier, especially when they give you a lump of coal for Christmas in the firm of that crappy firmware that was removed the next day.
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pinto2 (DVD Freak)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
Quote:
Originally posted by aaronwt
I don't see the bin file for the 811S version HS0E at this site either. liteOn better update their firmware soon. I still don't see why they don't let you flash to an older version. that would make things much easier, especially when they give you a lump of coal for Christmas in the firm of that crappy firmware that was removed the next day.
Yeh... we heard that before.
Just complaining wont solv your problem.
d/l FW HS0E from here:
http://dhc014.rpc1.org/indexOEM.htm
Use "FlashFix" to load it up.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....light=FlashFix
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pinto2 don't you think it would be nice if there was a LiteOn tools sticky so we didn't have to keep telling people that over and over again? [/point]



EDIT: I am currently working on a guide called "LiteOn Tools (DVD oriented) Beta 0.10". I should be done within a couple days and will release it then
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Odia The Ultima (CD Freaks Rookie)
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Originally posted by Ssseth
That is by far the best explanation of how to extract a .bin from a .exe that I have heard. Other people have made mention of it but not in any clear form that made sense. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if I ever have any problems.
Glad it was of some help, I only ever extract my own bin's at least this way I know its not been modified by someone.

Odia.
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pinto2 (DVD Freak)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
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Originally posted by Ssseth
pinto2 don't you think it would be nice if there was a LiteOn tools sticky so we didn't have to keep telling people that over and over again?
YES, very GOOD idea.
Sticky and closed, so we just need to answer with link.
Have you informed the mods?

This way we dont need answer same Q. all ower again and again...
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rdgrimes (Retired Moderator)
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Posted: 02-01-2004
We're already working on this, but don't assume that the same questions won't still get asked over and over again. We have yet to come up with a satisfactory method of getting people to actually READ the stickies.
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Good to hear.

I'm already on page2 of my "LiteOn Tools (DVD oriented) Beta 0.10". Should be released in a day or two.

Hopefully a mod will see this by then and may have some comments for me

I really like the sticky and locked idea as well. The quide is just that a quide with many links to other threads and webpages and thus should probably be locked so people reply in the linked threads so the guide doesn't get spread out all over the place.

I've always loved forums and wouldn't mind sticking around this one to make sure it stays as up to date as possible. I have allot of spare time at work so it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm off to bed soon. I will keep you updated.

EDIT: Just saw rdgrimes post. I hope I haven't wasted my efforts! I know that many people may not read it, I just wanted to help out.
EDIT II: I pm'd OC Freak about this a few days back but I know he's a busy guy and I haven't heard back yet.
EDIT III: I'm pm'ing the mods with a temporary host to my guide and am anxiously awaiting a response. I will check back after sleeping to see what they've said.
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@rdgrimes
I think new members have problem to find information about usefull programs, because it`s spread around the forum and most of the time inbedded inside the posts, as for now.
The by Ssseth proposed thread/threads would be of high value for all of us.

@Ssseth
Take your time. You are doing a great job.
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We are aware of all this and are looking at all the options. As we are volunteers, we want to do it right the first time.
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OC pm me back and said it's a good start.
The mods of course will be reviewing it and making sure everything looks good before I post it.

Thanks for the support!

I will update later because I really do need some sleep!
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